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[quote name='Emanew' timestamp='1466680656' post='3077822'] As i dig so much this bass, i bought last year a 63' American Reissue rosewood neck. Maple or Rosewood, it gives a wider range, 2 PB in 1 [/quote] That's quite a commitment to the Road Worn cause. Impressive. [quote name='Emanew' timestamp='1466680656' post='3077822'] With a reissue white tolex case. It deserves it [/quote] I like that idea.

[quote name='Vinny' timestamp='1466715864' post='3078203'] It might rip a hole in the fabric of time! [/quote] Or your sock.

I don't much care for sunburst. So there. For a wild moment I did consider a refin in aged white... but the wisdom of a refin on a roadworn?? In any case I'm quickly warming to the colour as the band don't like it, saying it's 'pink'... ...No, it's fiesta red. It's pink. No, it's fiesta red. Repeat until fade...

[quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1466677748' post='3077788'] What pickups do they use in these? [/quote] The spec on the Fender site says 'Vintage Split Single-Coil Precision Bass', so your guess is as good as mine.

[b]NBD - Fender Road Worn Precision Bass, Fiesta Red[/b] I'm sure everyone is familiar with these basses by now. I was intrigued when they first appeared - around 2009 or thereabouts, when the 'relic' controversy was in full flow. I revisited some speculative threads from that time on TalkBass and elsewhere - posted before the Road Worn Series was widely known - and was amused by the outraged view that mass-produced 'wear' could even be [i]considered [/i]- after all, if you haven't put every ding and scrape on your bass yourself then your story is false and you are a poser, right..? As if any punter could care less, or be remotely interested in your 'story'! Another cause for apoplexy was the price - HOW MUCH for a Mexican Fender? A higher price for actually DAMAGING a perfectly good new bass?? This was before most people had even [i]seen [/i]a Road Worn, let alone played one. But the 'relic/roadworn' issue turned out to be a red herring which drew attention away from the main point, which is this: Road Worn basses are excellent and represent good value, regardless of their 'finish' and regardless of the geographical location of their assembly. in my view the added value is less about the road wear and more about the selection of components for the series. You only have to play a RW to realise that it is quite unlike a regular Mexican Fender. The neck in particular is excellent - one-piece maple, skunk stripe, truss-rod adjustment at heel, walnut cavity plug, vintage frets, 1.75" (44.45mm) nut width, 7.25" radius, rolled edges. It's also very straight and a low action is possible with flats. The only adjustment I needed to make, if you can call it that, was to 'Scotchbrite' the back of the neck to a satiny smoothness. I do this to all my basses, so it's not a Road Worn issue. Essentially, it's like a played-in US neck. But the whole bass is lovely and instantly feels great in the hand, like a [insert name of beloved, well-worn comfy object]. I'm not sure about the arm contour 'wear' and the faux headstock fag-burn - these features appear identically on every Road Worn - but the rest of the 'wear' is sensitively executed and very plausible. The ageing of the hardware in particular is excellent. Reverse-vintage tuners, threaded saddles and a period 51-61 spaghetti 'F' decal complete the look, along with a slightly 'worn' 1957-type gold anodized pickguard. There are screw-holes for a tug bar and ashtrays, but these are not supplied. I want to say it plays like butter - however I'd like to keep a little credibility, so I won't. No fret buzz, no rattles, intonation spot-on all the way up. This is a really good neck, folks. And the bass has 'that' warm, round yet punchy articulate P-Bass tone that everyone's after. Possibly aided by the La Bella 760FS flats I strung it with as soon as it got through the door. The output seems slightly low compared with my other basses, but that's not a problem - my thought is that the pickup is probably not overwound, which may explain the vintage tone. Nevertheless, turning your amp up slightly is a small price to pay for a bass that sounds this good. I sold my Limelight Dakota Red P and regretted it immediately. Limelight put together very good P basses in my humble opinion, but this Road Worn has a nicer maple neck than the LL examples I've seen. It's light, it's very resonant acoustically, it sounds great, it plays like a popular dairy product and the overall impression it gives is that of a venerable MIA Precision. It feels right. What more could you want? Given the choice between a new Limelight and a new Road Worn, I'd choose a Limelight every time - you get a LOT of Limelight for new RW money. But if the choice were between a Limelight and a second-hand Road Worn then some hard thinking would be required. I suspected Road Worns were good and always had underlying GAS for one, but now I actually have one I can say for sure they are great basses and at used prices, almost unbeatable - you can get everything you would expect from a venerated USA P for the price of a new standard MIM. Love it and love everything about it. I have two gigs over the weekend and am very much looking forward to using the RW for both. So I'm a happy bunny... for five minutes.

[quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1466665267' post='3077614'] Hope your anal tract is back to normal fella [/quote] [quote name='gary mac' timestamp='1466671946' post='3077699'] I know you said that you had fun but frankly, I'm shocked. [/quote] It wasn't THAT kind of fun, Gary...

Bought a very nice Fender Road Worn Precision from Karl and it feels like it's come home. Superb basses these Road Worns! I kind of knew that already, so when the opportunity arose I went for it. Superlative comms from the Wigan Wonder as per usual and naturally the bass was very well-packed in a Fender hard case in a cardboard box in a plastic bag... Karl himself is a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a vest. Very smooth delivery and an excellent transaction all round. I have no hesitation in recommending Karl, you can trade with absolute confidence. He is a veritable [s]pillock[/s] pillar of the forum. Thank you, Sir.

[quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1466589867' post='3076978'] I very seriously doubt it's crap. [/quote] I bow to your superior knowledge of course, Jon. Mine wasn't all that, but it became obvious very quickly I wasn't a short-scale kind of guy.

My first-ever bass was a CMI SG copy in cherry, but... this may be a [i]little [/i]heavy for me. And crap.

Strings make a HUGE difference. Whenever I get a new bass I'll immediately restring it with La Bellas or DR Fat Beams, as appropriate. But what a coincidence - I've just gone and bought a 50s-type red P bass with a maple neck and gold anodized guard from Karl as well... I wonder where he's getting them from..?

Only adjust the truss rod if you need to. They do sound growly when new, this wears off a little as they break in. They're also a bit 'grabby' when new, they'll get shinier and smoother over time. But the growl won't entirely disappear. You can make them thumpy and mellow if you want to, but I like having that growl on tap. Great strings, and not expensive, either. They sound really good on my Hayman 4040 and they're generally good flats to have on a dual-pickup bass IMHO, as they're quite dynamic and have a fair bit going on in the mids. The 50-100 set are very even across the strings, too. I like 'em!

[quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1466517378' post='3076425'] It was probably using the bedroom curtains as a speaker grill that was the last straw for his wife! [/quote] Or perhaps he wiped his cock on them, so it was a revenge thing...?

[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][size=4][sup]Oh, that's nasty. 'Divorce forces sale'. I wonder if this was the last straw?[/sup][/size][/font]

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1466511223' post='3076331'] I suspect that despite the thread being the best opportunity for me to use the phrase "monumental bellend" since the recent Kanye West thread, doing so is not really much of a contribution and probably not in the community spirit... [/quote] Your considered restraint is admirable.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1466507461' post='3076288'] I'll settle for neither... [/quote] Yes... I think everyone on this board is well aware that you're not a Fender P or J fan, which is of course fine - each to his own, and all. Having said that, I wonder at the wisdom of posting in a thread titled 'Jazz or P' - surely it must be quite obvious that it's going to be about Fender basses..? Over four decades I have owned and played lots of different basses from lots of different manufacturers - which was fun, if a little expensive at times - and having done so, I prefer to play a classic P bass, or as close to one as I can afford. I wouldn't expect to be criticised for this choice on a bass forum. Or anywhere else, come to that.

[quote name='paul h' timestamp='1466503858' post='3076252'] He didn't say fingers...it doesn't count. [/quote] Oh all right, then... IT'S ALL IN THE FINGERS. And I really do believe that, folks.

[quote name='eddiehoffmann' timestamp='1466458520' post='3076039'] The sound is in your hands... [/quote] He said it!

Sold Jon some strings. Super-fast payment and a very smooth transaction, as always. Thanks Jon.

[quote name='thegummy' timestamp='1466457645' post='3076023'] ...some people claim you can get a P tone out of a jazz bass if you use certain settings on the knobs. It's not possible at all, it doesn't sound anything like a P. [/quote] Agreed. If it were true, no P Basses would be sold as everyone would just buy a Jazz instead. The P is still the most ubiquitous bass by some margin.

A 100-watt all-valve amp will be very loud indeed.

[quote name='Chiliwailer' timestamp='1466448166' post='3075901'] Depends on what particular unique and special tone that you've spent your life searching for... Thump? Smooth? Full? Fat? Sparkle? Boom? Thick? Woody? Rootsy? Middy? Muddy? Articulate? Musical? Clunky? Clumpy? Raw? Fretty? Thick? Thin? Tinny? Fizzle? Old school? Modern? Hard? Soft? Warm? Round? Chunky? Heavy? Sweet? Attack? Solid?.... [/quote] Hayman 4040.

Look at that! One's come up for sale. http://basschat.co.uk/topic/287128-mooer-tender-octaver-1-month-old-l60-inc-uk-postage/page__pid__3075786#entry3075786

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqZcDJBWmuU Possibly?