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[quote name='skychaserhigh' timestamp='1465555331' post='3069177'] Now stop being so bloody defensive about Barefaced and accusing other people of slagging them off , as by doing so you create these arguments then sit back and blame others. [/quote] I'll post whatever I feel is appropriate within the rules of this forum. And it's certainly not me creating these arguments. After all this time I still don't know what it is about Barefaced that provokes such a negative reaction. I have no issue with those who have tried Barefaced cabs and don't like them. That's how we find out what we like and what we don't like. Each to his own. My problem is with those who have decided to take a negative stance against BF without [i]ever [/i]having played through a Barefaced cab, or without having heard one for themselves. I'm assuming you have tried a Barefaced cab and didn't like it?

[quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1465552141' post='3069137'] If I were the defence team I'd just play this and leave it at that. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I[/media] [/quote] Seen this before, but it's all quite true of course. Fantastic.

[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1465553640' post='3069154'] I do wonder if Alex was responding to the market with this range of cabs - if you spend years trying to persuade bassists they don't need a 4x10 and they still want a 4x10, it seems like good business sense to recognise that and come up with a better 4x10 instead! [/quote] I was going to mention this but you've put it much more succinctly. His plan seems to be working, judging by one or two high-profile users of the range. No-one criticises other brands for taking advantage of the market.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1465552429' post='3069140'] I think it's probably because Alex (and Bill for that matter) had the cheek to tell us that our favourite cabs had been badly designed and that they could do a far better job. Some people don't like being told that. Personally one the reasons I read these forums is to learn. I'll make up my own mind about Barefaced when I get the chance to properly try out some of their cabs in a serious gigging environment. [/quote] Fair comment. I should know by now to avoid rising to the bait! I've owned and gigged several types of BF cab and as long as I (and the ever-increasing BF customer base) know they're good, that's all that counts. Alex is now sufficiently successful that he doesn't need the likes of me commenting on his products. Though I'm still baffled that some people obviously have an axe to grind. But I still don't know what that axe looks like or why it's being ground in the first place. [i]Funny old world... [/i]

[quote name='skychaserhigh' timestamp='1465550441' post='3069121'] So , now we go full circle with a 'normal' shaped 410....yes I know all about the low pass thing etc etc... [/quote] So Ampeg, Bergantino, Markbass et al are at fault for taking advantage of demand and producing 4X10s themselves, then? No mention made of their products - all of which apparently have some kind of unique selling point, if you read their advertising literature. If you know about the low pass thing then it's hardly full-circle, as the BF 410 isn't the same as any other 410, is it? So why persist? If you don't like 410s don't buy one, and if you don't like Barefaced cabs, don't buy one. Exactly what is it about Barefaced as a company that provokes this kind of criticism when their competitors quietly do their thing (and not as well, imho) without comment on this forum? I don't get it.

Not.

Given that material for the bed-wetting genre is churned out on a big music conveyor belt on the Moon, I think the two songs are actually quite different. I think the 'Amazing' people are trying it on, somewhat... boo, rubbish!

[quote name='Chiliwailer' timestamp='1465498056' post='3068829'] Uh oh, here comes the GAS, be strong now Chili.... [/quote] Schroeder cab gone, Streamliner gone, Zoom B1xon gone... Hayman remains.

My Hayman is uncomfortable and not particularly easy to play, but I don't care - because it sounds brilliant. It's not much fun to sit and noodle with (especially if you're tired), as it's a slab body and the action won't go low enough - but at a gig it's utterly fantastic. It repays an attacking kind of technique - you have to work hard at it to get the best out of it, but it is absolutely worth it.

This from Barefaced website: [color=#333333][size=3]When a high performance pro-audio woofer is fresh out of the box its suspension is very stiff. This means that the woofer is over-damped in the low frequencies compared to its design parameters, resulting in thinner bass response and lower efficiency. It also means that the woofer is under-damped in the mid and high frequencies, resulting in worse control of the higher frequency break-up modes and thus a harsher sound. During the first few hours of high SPL use the suspension loosens up and settles into its long-term design parameters. [/size][/color][color=#333333][size=3]The simplest way to break in your woofers in is to play bass through it - the louder the gig or rehearsal, the quicker the woofers will loosen up. [/size][/color] My own experience is that you will notice more bottom end and less mid/high-harshness over time.

Or The New Regulars...

[quote name='keefbaker' timestamp='1465471149' post='3068498'] I could start a band called "Paris In Flames" ... [/quote] That's actually a good band name.

[quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1465471901' post='3068508'] I suppose you could prefix the bands name with 'The original' - That should suggest you were there first. [/quote] Yes, or 'The Incomparable'... but not enough people know how to pronounce 'incomparable'.

[quote name='keefbaker' timestamp='1465471518' post='3068504'] I should start a band called Donkey Hotey [/quote] No need to make an ass of yourself.

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1465466501' post='3068440'] I guess the big problem is band members who refuse to even try suggestions. It's only a bunch of notes and a few words. Learn them, play them a few times - keep/bin as required. It's not rocket science, people are too narrow minded. [/quote] My comment wasn't serious, but you have a point. I joined a country band a few months ago - I'm not particularly interested in country, but they're good musicians, do lots of gigs, I get paid and I'm having fun - against the odds - so when a new song is put forward I automatically think, 'Oh no, that's terrible...' but when we get it together, I usually end up liking it. Others are more knowledgeable about the genre than I am, so it's refreshing not to agonise over song choices (as I don't know any) or argue about the various merits of this or that, whether the punters will like it and on and on. Serenity now!!

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1465464864' post='3068407'] Girls in their late teens? They will soon get bored of it and move on to something else. [/quote] This. [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1465464998' post='3068414'] Is Dawn one of the members of the girl band? [/quote] If so, I would have voted for 'Up at the Crack of Dawn'.

Amazing how he came up with the Strat, just like that, fully-formed and apparently out of nowhere!

[quote name='12stringbassist' timestamp='1465427997' post='3068223'] All of my song suggestions are wrong. Itchy feet. [/quote] Hmm... that IS a terrible song, though.

For that money you could get a used Diamond BCP-1. Not a 'remedial' compressor as such, but evens out your playing a treat without losing attack or dynamics. More importantly, it makes your bass sound like the Bass of The LORD, which is a very neat trick. [url="http://www.ovnilab.com/reviews/diamobass.shtml"]http://www.ovnilab.c...diamobass.shtml[/url]

Bought an amp from Mark in what turned out to be a seamless and very easy deal. He responds to PMs very quickly and posted the item immediately, it was well-packed. He sent me an ETA and tracking information, which is how it's done, IMHO. Very pleased. Thanks!

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1465403040' post='3067950'] I wish I could play at that level with a BL that cared that much. [/quote] Just because he's swearing doesn't mean he's caring...

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1465391761' post='3067775'] ...cheap enough to replace, but also good enough to be proud of. [/quote] It's a balance. I've quite happily gigged Squier basses, but would be worried about a pre-CBS Fender to the point where it would affect my enjoyment of the gig. Unless it was a big venue with dressing rooms and security, etc. But it hardly ever is.