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[quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1460905739' post='3029660'] I suspect your test shows more about the efficiency of the cab/driver combinations in each combo at turning watts into db than whether the B15 (or valve watts) is somehow magically louder - you would need to run both amps through the same cab to get a meaningful comparison. [/quote] I'm more interested in finding out if a B15 will cut the mustard at a gig. I await the results of Mrs Anthony's live experiment next Saturday with bated trousers.

Onboard EQ can be good, but an external preamp/pedal can be more easily changed if you don't like it.

Not familiar with this cab, is it easy to get inside and have a look inside for anything obvious?

Ya big loaf!

Well now I have Jazz GAS again. Dammit!

I think we ought to have a whip-round. The money can rest in my account until we decide how to spend it.

[quote name='Twincam' timestamp='1460820892' post='3029091'] Not saying your lying having never tried either amp but surely 30w valve would get blown away by the markbass???. I've had a good low watt all valve amp albeit about 22w through a fifteen and in my view it was maybe the equivalent of a 50 to 75w solid state. [/quote] Depends on many different variables including cab and driver efficiency, number of cabs and drivers, etc. The loudest amp I've ever used was a 1974 100W valve job through two BFM J12 cabs loaded with Kappalites.

[quote name='chrisanthony1211' timestamp='1460819931' post='3029082'] ...beadsters Ampeg heritage b15, with a hefty 30 watts through a single 15 inch speaker, this baby is loud, and matches my 300 watt Mark bass CMD121p for volume, and kicks it's ass for heft! [/quote] Still trying to ascertain what the db difference was between the two, do you know?

[quote name='SteveK' timestamp='1460812674' post='3029004'] '...now I'm gonna pass the pot around and make even more money...' [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Unless you ask him outright we'll never know.[/font][/color] [/quote] True, you never know. He may have a high-maintenance girlfriend, in which case he has my full sympathy and support.

[quote name='SICbass' timestamp='1460809632' post='3028968'] Might it be better to approach the landlord and express your unhappiness with this new arrangement? Making it clear that, in future, you want a different deal and expressing clearly how that deal would look? It may be possible to resolve this problem without having to lose a gig and disappoint faithful fans of the band. [/quote] Definitely talk to the guy and get his views on it! You never know, he may have a perfectly reasonable explanation...

[quote name='NoRhino' timestamp='1460806600' post='3028929'] Forego an agreed fee and say you'll take the donations. [/quote] Where's that LIKE button again..?

[quote name='Bobthedog' timestamp='1460806532' post='3028927'] I wonder if this question was asked today, would the same answers apply? I suspect the answers would be for more power / volume. [/quote] I suspect the same. The original answers were probably more considered and sensible than today's.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1460806317' post='3028923'] It's all very fine asking these pompous existentialist riddles... [/quote] You brought [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Schrödinger into it. I was just trying to be funny. [/font][/color]

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1460805735' post='3028908'] Schrödinger's cat... [/quote] Please don't open THAT box.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1460797351' post='3028775'] WD Music have some great tort on offer, I have one on my P: [url="http://www.wdmusic.co.uk/pickguards-c62/fender-basses-c111/tortoiseshell-t8"]http://www.wdmusic.c...ortoiseshell-t8[/url] [/quote] Those are a good, sensible compromise between quality and price. Spitfire make really fantastic guards, but they are very expensive and really only worth fitting to a genuine vintage instrument or a very good replica.

Sounds like a bass to me. Always difficult to evaluate amps and basses on YouTube. Great playing as always, though.

[quote name='Twincam' timestamp='1460804931' post='3028893'] It wouldn't be so bad but why did he/she play slap! [/quote] I know! If I ever meet him or her, he or she will definitely get a piece of my mind or penis.

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1460803033' post='3028860'] ...the whole affair generates images of teacups and weather fronts in my head. [/quote] Mine too. I can't afford to be principled in every shower, I save my ethics for the hurricane season.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1460803910' post='3028873'] Not the same anymore.. IMO. [/quote] I suppose once you know what the best bass for metal is, the best flatwounds to use, whether to go active or passive, whether a replacement bridge adds sustain or not, the current view on 'tonewoods', whether to go valves or SS, the rosewood v maple board question, seen the Korean transvestite bass player, the drummer at the wrong gig and seen pictures of every member's cat, you're going round in circles really. I know I am... I know I am... I know I am... *disappears up own arse*

Thanks for all the info and suggestions! I'm not sure that Phil Jones is the way to go, for me... so I've decided to keep the Rumble 500 (which I can pair with my 400W/8ohm BFM J12 cab if and when necessary), and have bought an Ampeg PF350 which will be affixed atop a Barefaced One10, which has been ordered. If I need more beans in future I can either use the Rumble rig with or without ext cab, or buy another One10. The PF350 at 4ohms through two One10s is going to be a fairly loud rig and still very portable. But having enjoyed the many advantages of a drummerless band, I'd be reluctant to join any band of any genre that had a drummer who can't (or won't) rein it in when necessary... who knows, a single One10 may be sufficient on its own anyway. I'm certainly looking forward to hauling a 200W rig that is 11 x 11 x 18" and weighs 10.6kg (23lbs) in total. We'll see.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1460798879' post='3028799'] If people are willing to travel that distance, they'll travel to see that band again at another venue. [/quote] I don't know. How many decent venues are there in the wet bit of France..?

[quote name='LiamPodmore' timestamp='1460794929' post='3028740'] I can't see an entirely silent gig taking off myself. [/quote] Quite, how are you going to flap your trousers? An electric fan?

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1460772428' post='3028673'] Are you going to deprive them of their entertainment on a point of principle? [/quote][quote name='leschirons' timestamp='1460783333' post='3028679'] Absolutely. Principles define who you are. [/quote][quote name='leschirons' timestamp='1460792235' post='3028716'] ...it was the busiest it had ever been there last night with us playing with some people even doing a 150km round trip to see us. [/quote] Doesn't the fact that some people did a 150km round trip to see you mean anything? It could be argued that you're letting these people down. I'd be a bit more pragmatic about it. Principles are a luxury for most - and you're lucky to be in a position where you can apply them in a case like this - but I can't help feeling you're being a little egocentric about it. What do your bandmates think?