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[quote name='bassman7755' timestamp='1434738033' post='2802432'] [url="https://www.youtube....h?v=32GsPfUnsRk"]https://www.youtube....h?v=32GsPfUnsRk[/url] Thats "growl" in my book. [/quote] Anyone else got a broken link? [quote name='JoeEvans' timestamp='1434744380' post='2802525'] It goes 'bwaahhh'. [/quote] I thought that was bridge pickup 'burping'... a bit like 'mwahhh'..? Surely growling is more, 'Aroogah! Aroogah!'

This is a Sire Marcus Miller Jazz V7 I had for a while... I thought it was fairly growly. [b][url="http://www.mediafire.com/view/7r52va7c65qarzq/JB%20Groove.wav"]JB Groove[/url][/b]

Good luck! I think it's all its money given it's a refin.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1434723012' post='2802222'] Maybe we should all chip in and group buy it... [/quote] I'd never get a turn, would I? As you pointed out, I've already got one!

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1434722297' post='2802208'] you've already got one play fair.... [/quote] Swap you for one of your Wals..!

[quote name='Funky Dunky' timestamp='1434721618' post='2802192'] A P Bass sounds like a P Bass and a J Bass sounds like a J Bass. A Stingray sounds like a Stingray. [/quote] i see where you're coming from, but if you listen to James Jamerson then Steve Harris (P Bass), John Paul Jones then Tim Commerford (J Bass), Gail Ann Dorsey then Bernard Edwards (Stingray), the distinctions between basses becomes blurred and those between style and technique become clearer... all in my humble opinion, of course.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1434722119' post='2802202'] So this thread has taught me that my chances of aquiring a nice original shergold for a resonable price are entirly reliant on Jack not seeing it first [/quote] Yes, and on me not claiming DIBS on it next!

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1434721615' post='2802191'] Tempted, tempted, very very temped. I'm very tempted. [/quote] Buy it - if you don't like it after a few weeks I'll have it off you. Seriously. Though I strongly suspect you'll fall in love with it like I did with mine. Lovely, lovely, lovely, everything!

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1434721712' post='2802196'] If it really was just "tone" then you would be able to identify the player from a single repeated note. [/quote] I'm pretty sure I could identify Charles Mingus from a single note, but not many electric bass players. Chris Squire possibly, as in 'FFS! Who the hell put this f*cking YES album on, and why??'

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1434721062' post='2802177'] Sure the inherent tone of the bass is a big part of it, but how you strike the strings has a real impact on the sound. Not sure about my fretting fingers though - never noticed them making any difference. [/quote] You know, I think how one frets does make a difference. You don't fret and pluck a string in isolation, both are part of the same note. Fretting has an impact on sustain, muting... then there are hammer-ons and pull-offs (fnarr) and all that... definitely related to tone, I'd say.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1434720773' post='2802170'] I do not beleive they have anything to do with your tone... That comes from, strings, bass, amp effects etc... If it really was all in the fingers then we'd all be using basses and amps without any tone controls... [/quote] I must respectfully disagree... most of the time my basses and amps are set flat (yes I know, that's another thread) and an enormous amount of tone control is to be had by how and where one strikes or plucks the strings... you can have two people play the same bass through the same amp* and get absolutely polar opposites of tone right there. [size=3]*Not at the same time, obviously. [/size]

[quote name='jazzyvee' timestamp='1434720431' post='2802166'] [color=#141823][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]...if that really is the case why are we falling for the seduction of spending so much money time and effort on the smaller percentage of our playing that contributes the least to our sound, namely the bass and the rig, the gear?[/font][/color] [/quote] It in the fingers [i]and [/i]in the bass/amp/cab/fx, of course. But mostly in the fingers. In my opinion we spend so much time, effort and money on GAS and gear because it's easier to believe that a new bass/amp/cab will make us into much better players, or at least sound like we are, than to admit that our fingers aren't up to it and may need work (i.e. our playing is in question and we need to put time and effort into doing something about it). This of course is much, much harder and involves having a cold hard look at ourselves, and not many people want to do that.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1434704592' post='2801957'] So what's the thinking with splitting the stereo by way of E-A and D-G? Would you treat each pair of strings to different FX pedals? Would you run them through different amps? Not sure I understand the benefit. [/quote] What he's written is basically correct, but he doesn't seem to understand that you need to have two jacks connected to properly split the signal. I have no idea of the benefit either... your suggestions are as good as any. It's faux-stereo at best. I think the FX theory more likely, you could have a solid low-end happening on the E and A and have FX on the D and G for some solo-type shenanigans. Don't see the point of bi-amping a split pickup, unless you were going for a Chris Squire-type set-up. Which may have been the angle at the time. I think it's more of a gimmick really, but it's true that in the 70s there was loads of wacky way-out stuff going on. Remember quad PA systems?? It would have made more sense (to me) to 'stereoise' the Modulator Bass, which at least has two pickups. Edit: You should get that Marathon in any case Jack, I think you'd really like it! I'm loving mine!

[quote name='ShergoldSnickers' timestamp='1434536647' post='2800483'] [/quote] Wow, I nearly missed these... they're great! Fretless Shergold Marathon porn! Your mods in particular look pretty wild, Ian... Maybe it's time to start a Shergold porn thread..? Huur huur huurrrr... *rubs thighs, gurning* Edit: Looks like there is one already. Aggghhhh... [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/128495-shergold-porn/page__p__2213696__hl__shergold"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/128495-shergold-[/url] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/128495-shergold-porn/page__p__2213696__hl__shergold"]porn/page__p__2213696__hl__shergold[/url]

Well I don't think not being at home is any excuse for not posting pics! Boo! Thpp!

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1434700657' post='2801893'] It was me who asked him about the output sockets. That's what put me off. Had it been in original stereo format I might well have gone for it. [/quote] Jack, it [i]is[/i] in original stereo format. When you have both sockets connected, you get one output from the E and A strings and the other from the D and G strings. With just the first socket connected you get normal mono output from all four strings. With just the second socket connected you get output from the E and A strings (or possibly D and G strings) only. My 1979 Marathon is exactly the same, it's all stock and how it should be.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1434696326' post='2801842'] I'm shallow and the refin puts me off... the checked and cracked finish is part of what makes these basses appealing. [/quote] I think that's why it hasn't been snapped up. I was intending to refin my black Marathon in white, but I like the 'Shergold Peel' so much that I'm going to leave it as-is. Also 'the peel' makes it easy to tell if a Shergold has been refinned or not.

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1434665414' post='2801756'] Quite possibly, I'm a great prevaricator. [/quote] I'm not, of course - you'd never see me wasting my time on a bass forum, for example.

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1434664695' post='2801748'] I have some dodgy blurry photos from somewhere in the early 80s. I'll scan them in some time. [/quote] In fact, haven't I asked the very same question and got the very same answer before, or did I dream it? Either way, it would be nice to see the pics...

[quote name='planer' timestamp='1434658808' post='2801670'] Is she a good replacement for the Foos? [/quote] Nah, she's a ginger. But so is Nate Mendel, so I'm not quite sure where that leaves me.

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1434664191' post='2801736'] I put one together from parts when Hayman went bust... [/quote] Do you have pics of it?

I'm trying hard to resist this one. Which is easier now I already have a Marathon - but I want one in white, too.

Oof. Ow! My hernia!

Or you can buy a tube of wood filler that matches the colour.

All relative and down to personal taste, etc. etc. but as far as I'm concerned Florence is no singer. My opinion, of course. [quote name='Toasted' timestamp='1434629643' post='2801323'] If I was at Glastonbury I'd DEFINITELY be going to see Kayne. [/quote] Kayne? Who's that, then?