EBS_freak

Another annoyance. I click on to a product (via the text, not via a pic) Look at that big pic in the middle. Lets click on it (seems reasonable, but maybe not because it wouldn't allow me to click on the images in the listings... but hey)... Woah! That's great that. I want to see more. Oh, the cursor keys dont seem to do anything... and there's no arrows on the pic to scroll. Oh you're kidding me... Click out.... look at the pics underneath... and... oh look! same picture but now I can scroll through the rest of the images. Why not give me the scroll option on the main (and first pic) that I clicked on. I don't want to back out of an action I have done to scroll through some pics. PS, I know this isn't BDs fault, it just shows how devs don't understand how user experience/expectations (especially for consistency - do you want me to click on pictures or not?) are often at odds with the spec

Agreed - I'm sure there's a popular website that we know of that does such a thing. Its name currently escapes me.

Anyway, not going to go into any more Amazon talk, I was simply referencing their UI, not their tax status and shouldn't be derailing the thread. Plus, its verging on politics anyway. So, I'm self moderating and done on that particular aspect of the convo! (And @ped is watching)

The don't - but the threat is enough to secure them what they want. If there is the choice of paying out, or not paying out, which do you think Bezos would want to go with? For a different take on the situ, why aren't you annoyed that Amazon are receiving tax credits? (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/15/amazon-could-avoid-uk-tax-for-two-more-years-thanks-to-rishi-sunaks-tax-break)

Drill mod?

When you figure out how much companies rely on the revenue generated via Amazon, they have the government over a barrel. "We leave the UK and all the dependants go bust/lose business and pay no/less tax... or you let us carry on." All the linked dependant tax revenue would be a catastrophic loss to the public coffers. Couriers/packaging manufactures/folks selling through amazon/affiliate earners/digital media owners where the distribution is through Amazon/staff/warehousing costs etc.... the impact of Amazon pulling out of the UK would be MASSIVE. (Doesn't make it right though)

Use a third party analyser to see how BD reports its responsiveness. Spoiler - there's a lot of bloatware in the BD site, although whoever built it is probably not even aware or maybe not savvy enough around such things. Its not been coded, it's been assembled using COTS products that have been shoehorned together.

Do they not fit due them being too loose - or because the tip wont actually attach to the output tube?

This is not true if the product is not exclusive. People will buy the product - but not necessarily from BD. Website responsiveness and minimal click through is a massive influencer. If you want to buy something and you can click to buy in three clicks (e.g. integrated checkout with ApplePay, Googlepay, PayPal without being nagged for details all the time - you are onto a winner. You only have to look at the speed at which you can do a quick checkout on Amazon to understand why this is a massive part of the UI and can influence the user to chose them as a store as opposed to anywhere else. The "Buy Now" button in Amazon is a great example of this - why would the user want to go anywhere else when it is so easy and negates the traditional checkout experience. Appreciate, as good get more specialised and if the price becomes significantly different, this those attributes becomes a factor in accepting more laborious experiences). As someone who has done a fair but of UI analysis for some government websites (which I know are mostly pap), responsiveness is a massive part of it. There's loads of money spent on active monitoring using real users as opposed to doing offline testing. You can see where people are bailing out and how they are attempting to use the system - because they may be exhibiting behaviours that were never accounted for at design time. Anyway, dont want to derail the thread will all that kinda talk. Anyway... as a quick example of UI annoyance, it's annoying to me (and surely to others), that I cant navigate BD site and drill down into an item by clicking on the picture. In conjunction with the text, that would offer a larger click point and cater for both sets of people who want to navigate pictorially or via text link. I know BD have probably just bought this as a COTS e-commerce product, probably based on price (or maybe even being free) so it may not even be a configurable. Again, just a musing.

It was always going to be the case given the build up! For me, Im not mad keen on the layout (I thought the last site was quite good to navigate, just looked gash and some of the copy was sloppy - that's why I find the cut and copy without the links frustrating. Ultimately, it's of no real concern to me though, just things like that comes across as a bit sloppy, thats all... I like attention to the details, especially if it's reflected in the way the business in question operates)

Punters aren't experts. But at the end of the day, they are the people you've got to please in terms of experience. So in this case, their opinions may count more (or at least as much as) the experts. Experts aren't the target buyers, the punters are.

OK, first observation - Privacy policy been cut and copied... and they forgot to put the links in.

Sound thinking... but it's not in Azure.

nope. its woocommerce in wordpress.... ...which makes me question... why did that take so long?

This is the page I find most useful - https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/about-us/our-brands/

Volume is not measured in watts... thats the hard sell.

Showaddywaddy.

Re: low end. My very high level take on subs for low end - Smaller subs - mostly useless for anything at volume. Nice enough for an acoustic act to give an acoustic guitar some really low end presence. Medium sized subs - take away energy sapping low end loads on tops to enable them to work better. Dont really add much thump - just gives you more headroom and control (especially if you are hpf your tops and using via aux fed sub method) Big sized subs - more about the feel. If people people are pushing too much lows in smaller venues especially, it because very thick and uncomfortable. If you want that pro gig/club feel - this is where you're at.

Gaffa taped over your ears. Job done. You may think I'm joking... but it's been done on one of my gigs!

Absolutely, I have all sorts of cheapo IEMs that I just keep in the gig bag, mainly because nobody else in the band has the brains to carry a spare and will always look to me to magically come up with a solution. Being relatively cheap, its not a big drama and gives me the opportunity to see if there is anything that I particularly like for not a lot of money. (Not that any of them stay in my weird shape ears) The other thing about IEMs and particularly places like head-fi, it only takes one person of note to say something is good and all the sheep follow. Now, I know you probably think, well what about EBS and his ZS10 and UE6s mentions... I did say, "...they are a 5 driver per side hybrid setup that can be had for typically less than £40 and will slay most of the competition (perhaps I should quantify by adding in "in a similar price range"). Even a move from 215s to ZS10s will immediately show you the benefit of headroom, especially as a bass player. Whilst the ZS10 may not be the best sounding IEMs in isolation, on stage, they have bags of headroom and great low-end response, so for bass players especially, they are a much better investment than many of the commonly mentioned alternatives you see time and time again." (My underlying message here is that ZS10s are way better than 215s (and pretty much all the Shure offerings for that matter!) - which are commonly bought as a "quality" IEM because they are "Shure" and Shure know a thing or two about audio, right?) UE6s though, I do recommend based on the fact that they are a great unit, that sound great with the headroom most are craving for - and of all the shows I have done with CIEM company, they remain one of the faves - and no complaints!

25 quid a player. That's ridiculously good value in my book! There's literally nothing that springs to mind that I could recommend at that price point. That and a P2, what, 75 quid? Now find a wedge monitor that delivers anywhere near the same experience! (And will fit in your pocket!)

Just want to add some context to that (I mention it in the opening posts but appreciate theres a lot in there). Multidriver can give a better sound and generally gives more headroom. I say can give a better sound based on the following being true. * Drivers that are selected are specifically chosen to service the frequency ranges that are good at and work in harmony with the other drivers that are included in the multi-driver setup. This means that crossovers are pleasing to avoid and significant peaks or drop out... and most importantly, there are no phasing issues. A poor multidriver that suffers from poor crossovers, poor tuning or phase issues as well as the left and right sides not being matched all adds to the risk. This is why the big boy brands tend to succeed, as they have got very good at making multi-driver units that work... and in some cases, had drivers specifically manufactured to engineer their way to a better sounding IEM. I have seen more than my fair share or individual try and create their own IEMs... and if they do manage to make them, a lot of them may come in at a favourable price point... but sound stinky poo, don't match ear to ear - and plagued with phasing problems. A single driver generally can't deliver sub to the ultra highs that well... which is why multi drivers come into play. Think about your PA... there's not many PA tops that come without a dedicated high frequency driver! * Headroom is seriously important - if you are a bass player that likes bass, you'll find a lot of IEMs can't reproduce the lows without distorting. Remember when you listen to a CD etc, the music has been mastered - there are not the transients that you get from a typical aux bus. Multi driver units greatly reduce the risk of distortion as the drivers do not have to work as hard. Importantly, a single driver can be running into non perceivable distortion (in that you can't hear it) - but this will cause faster ear fatigue. Then you run the risk of cranking the volume it as your ears become more and more tired. You shouldn't read too much into the audiophiles and their reviews of IEMs for live use as their reference material and reviews doesn't always pan over to IEM use on stage. The ZS10 is a gateway IEM in my book - in the fact that it's proven to be more than OK in proving the concept of IEMs to people. If you were to use the in ears that you get free with your phone, I would wager most people who do so (and I have witnessed people do this) suggest that they have "tried IEMs" and they are rubbish. Are the KZ10s the best thing since sliced bread? Of course not - but they do prove the concept and personally, I'd still take a KS10 set up over a wedge monitor and a set of earplugs. If KS10s get people into the world of IEMs from which they can move on and find what really works for them, then job done. I also know that for the people that crave super amounts of low end (appreciate not everybody is in this camp) they will deliver. They will also not have broken the bank but proven the concept. Put it like this, they are better than a set of Shure 215s that fall more into the category of performance of those sets of IEMs you get with your phone. So yeah, my recommendation on the P2 and ZS10 still stands as I reckon it's enough (and it's proven time and time again on here), to get people convinced to go on the IEM journey. Even though some people on here have gone different routes, it's likely the ZS10 that got them sold in the first place. I haven't tried the Moondrops so they may be good but may fall down due to some of the things I've mentioned above in a live environment. Headroom in the lows without distortion would probably be my primary concern. But even that has variables - how loud do like your IEMs, how much bass - can you get a good seal to keep the volume down.... etc etc... Anyway, happy hunting for your perfect IEM (no matter what it is, or how many drivers it has!)

As if they didn't know

Thats some high brow trolling from Shure.

Theatres tend to have a fixed site license and allocated a range of the RF spectrum for use by Ofcom. (eg not channel 38) 1, 6 and 11 are intermodulation free. Channels 38 and 70 are simply sections of the radio spectrum. What you run in those frequency ranges could be digital or analogue. I run ULXD in channel 38 - and thats digital. There's no reason why you couldn't run digital in channel 70 - although with 2.4 and 5ghz available, as a world wide, license free solution, its making less and less sense for manufacturers to build anything for channel 70. Overall, not too bad.