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@intime-nick - I'm guessing you have something earmarked for that slotted rack panel... that is a lot, lot more interesting...?

It is - if you put the rack ears on backwards, thats what you get. If you've routed everything to a patch panel, then jobs a goodun - risk of a costly board mounted failure is virtually eliminated. All Nick will have to worry about now, is the cheaper replacements of chassis connectors and the cables attached to them. Proper rackin'

Which is why I commented that the Mackie system is by far the most intuitive and easiest to learn straight away!

Which is why the rack is still king!

Argh! My eyes. All those cables!

The only problem with a Dingwall, is that the promise of a true B is widely an Internet spread myth... and the weight of note across the strings is not equal. If you think that that a Stingray has a weak G....

Should probably throw the RCF M18 into the mix too!

One of the best areas of the site imho!

In situations like this, I would recommend three systems... of course, all driven by budget. Mackie DL16S XR12/16/18 Touchmix 16 Here are the key differences...if you want a built in interface, Touchmix is the only one (although you can add on sliders to control the XR18 with sliders) But that's also the most expensive. Touchmix is iOS. Mackie is iOS/Android (Mac and PC controller software coming soon - mid year apparently... although that has drifted from end of 2018). Behringer is iOS/Andriod/Linux/Mac/PC. Interface wise, I'd say Mackie is the easiest to use straight out of the box, (especially if you are coming from an analogue desk) followed by the Touchmix, followed by the Behringer... although like anything, once you've got used to it, it's pretty intuitive. FX and routing wise, Behringer is the most comprehensive... if you want to delve into that. Most bang for buck is XR18 - but do factor in cost of external wifi router... as the built in one is fairly ropey. To be honest, I'd never trust any built in wifi... as it's just usually the cheapest 2.4Ghz that a manufacturer can find to tick a feature box. There's a reason why ethernet enabled pro mixers don't have built in wifi... Personally, I think like this - 340 quid for the XR18 from Gear4Music... well, for the cost of it alone, it pretty much cements itself as the nobrainer choice out of the 3. Depending upon your requirements, you may even get away with a XR12 or XR16 - the key thing to watch though, is obviously how many inputs you need and crucially the number of auxes - as you only have 2 on the XR12, 4 on the XR16. (6 on the XR18). However - £625 gets you the X32 rack... which I would defo take over the DL16s (£645) £1099 gets you the Touchmix... and the same for the x32 producer (basically the x32 rack with some sliders to fit in a 19" rack). So depending upon your budget... the X32 is more than most bands will ever need... but give you everything you could ever want... and the ability to run a large number of auxes (if stereo in ears ever becomes your thing). If you can afford the X32 Rack and it doesn't take up too much room in the car... that mixer will future proof you whatever route you choose to go. There's also a raft of add on cards... Waves, Dante, etc... so from that point of view, it certainly cements itself as more of a pro mixer than anything else in the price range that it is at. The other thing which it really cool, is that you can utilise affordable digital snakes (SD8/SD16) that is run from a single ethernet cable... so cabling up things like mics on drums can be kept very, very neat. Nobody likes a rats nest across the stage. Hope this helps... give a shout back if you want me to expand on anything. Oh, or course, you can get things like the QU16 - which is a good mix of traditional faders... but also has wifi control... but you will be looking at more like 1500+ for that - similar for the fully physical fader loaded X32. How much are looking to spend?

Indeed- wifi wireless systems in a venue such as the ones described in this thread.... well, expect headaches!

Meh, this stuff is all small fry. Solicitors letters for me.

I love it! And top end Yamahas are brilliantly made. I'm actually looking forward to seeing one in the flesh. Could be on my next bass list.

Glad you like!

Umm - not yet.. but the idea is to be cheaper than the others.... plus this system has a few extra tricks up it's sleeve.

Rack on left (2 side by side in 1u), pedalboard model (with mute footswitch) on right.

I’ll just leave this here...

He can be very accommodating - but experience has taught him that if you go too wild with ideas, then that's when instruments don't turn out as expected. He's done everything that I've ever requested on my basses - and some of those features are no part of his add-ons - e.g. laser cut back plates (so the grain on the back perfectly matches up) and engraving was a first, on one of my basses.... along with phantom power, LED light up logo headstock on a Spitfire, chrome decals, nickel nut, solid facings on a through neck... Just talk to him. It's when you start going down weird body shapes he's likely to raise an eyebrow - as he shapes have been worked on to balance perfectly.

OK. That's not too far. I'll keep in touch to see if I can help you out when we've finished what we're working on.

Just out of interest, where in the country are located? Working on something that may be of interest to you.

UE5s good - but would push for the UE6s just for the added headroom (even if you prefer the sound of the UE5s in isolation). Live, you'll appreciate it!

Good luck with your journey going forwards! - you may find that the EX29s will be enough - low end is always going to get through to a certain extent - but when everything is going on, it will all get absorbed into the mix in your ears. It will sound different - but like most things involving change, it takes a bit of getting used to.

I had a Eureka moment last night and things need to be a little more flexible... because you can't guarantee that everybody is going to halve a loop through a wireless system...

Indeed that would be quite funky - but we are struggling with real estate in the housing as it is - and remember, it's got to have an amp in it too! I don't think that it cab be all things to all men. And doesn't power generally live under the pedal board? Additionally, if you are a rack user, you are paying for functionality that you are never going to use...?

(+Bigwan) We hear you! We hadn't really considered that initially but a few design discussions today told us that that was possibly feasible... maybe... We hear you! My stuff is all rack based so has been biased to that view... at the moment. Being able to rack a couple of amps together in the band rig would be pretty sexy... right? The Sennheiser through to the board is an ideal setup... I'm assuming that the board will always be at the end of the chain (so you'll need to split off your IEM mix to the board if you aren't running a separate aux for the board). There is an alternative that I'm looking at - but won't go into too much detail at the moment.