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Looking at digital mixers? XR18 and X32 content...
EBS_freak replied to EBS_freak's topic in General Discussion
Apologies - yes, it was the M32 that B apparently said had the ability to support 96khz... but that hasn't materialised... yet. -
Looking at digital mixers? XR18 and X32 content...
EBS_freak replied to EBS_freak's topic in General Discussion
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Oh hello... https://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Behringer-Powerplay-P16-M-Personal-Mixer/IU1
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Err... a bazillion. Depends if you are going to make use of the features though. (Much more comprehensive and feature rich DSP than the XR18 - and of course, the expansion cards). It means that the average band is going to be able to run stereo inears for everybody, there's the options of the snakes - which now seem to be dirt cheap also. If you are sitting on the fence as to whether you should change, what I would do is keep the XR18 as a backup and invest in the X32 for sure. The extra IO alone is worth it. Thats a crazy amount of mixer for the money.
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DOnt know whats happening in Behringer world... But this may be a good time to get on the digital mixer bus (no pun intended) at a more affordable price... https://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Behringer-X-AIR-XR18-Digital-Mixer/18DJ https://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Behringer-X32-RACK-Digital-Mixing-Console/PNO
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https://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Behringer-X-AIR-XR18-Digital-Mixer/18DJ https://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-Lighting/Behringer-X32-RACK-Digital-Mixing-Console/PNO So does this mean there is something new in the pipeline...?
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Isn't it all Primark now?
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If you ever wonder who chooses to wear a similar fit shirt to Al Murray, the pub landlord, now you know.
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This guy...?
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Good point - the adjustable bass feature on the higher JH models is a strong point for some.
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So what you are looking at is basically a quad with balanced armatures - as soon as you get a dual BA in the bass, you are into the realms of bass players as that dual low is where you need the most headroom to avoid distortion. To be honest, if you are looking at UE, the main competition is going to be 64 and JH Audio... and all of their quads are really good but all of them have a slightly different sound signature. If you do an A/B/C test of say a UE11 vs a JH11 vs a A4t (all around the 1k mark, with JH being the cheapest quad at 800 (note : that is not indicative of it's performance, it can easily sit on a level playing field with the A4t and UE), you're bound to favour one of the tunings over the other... and that's the one you should go for. At that price point and with those manufacturers, there's not really a better, just different. If you were to buy blind without listening to any of them, you will be happy with any of them. If you want to be more critical in your selection, you really need to listen to them side by side. The only other significant difference is that the 64s have the apex filter - which some people hate the look of immediately and will discount 64 for that reason alone. Some people actually think the apex filter is a strong selling point as it can help alleviate ear fatigue. That may be enough to sway you to 64. Others think that the apex filter is just snake oil. In short, you need to audition them all.
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Ah - they'll come in no time at all. When Roxannes first came out, it was like a crazy 6 month wait time! There was a lot of frustrated people - me included! I think given the advances in manufacturing and their expanded operations, they are currently hitting around a couple of weeks... which is pretty incredible. When JH first emerged, it was running 6-8 weeks turn around on acrylic (e.g. non CF - which caused them an absolute nightmare) models. Just shows eh? I know there's the Drum Show at the end of the month - don't know whats happening this weekend in IEM world otherwise. All I know is, I'm hoping to spend it on my backside as I haven't had a weekend off in ages. You're going to love the Roxannes, they are a very cool piece... certainly one of my favourites - and you certainly aren't going to have any bass, distortion or headroom issues with them. You'll go deaf way, way before they run out of steam! 😛 Looking forward to hearing your views on your new arrivals. Always keen to hear how people are getting on with their new purchases. Talking of which, really looking forward to @intime-nick's post gig update with his new Lugs, which look to be pretty special too.
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@andysg42 - your JHs can't be too far away? End of next week maybe?
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So, my mate took delivery of his A12ts this morning after our trip of testing out IEMs (remember - the guy who was set on the JH Laylas, his current IEMs are ACS triples (T1s)). My phones has been hot this morning with messages of him being elated with the purchase. "OH MY GOD" "Sounds so wide - its actually quite disconcerting - it's HUGE" "Bass blew my c**k off" "So this is how IEMs are meant to fit!" "Fallen in love with music again good" "The fit is incredible" "These are so good I genuinely feel sad that most people will never know them" And because we all like photos... I also think they look amazing in all clear - given everything that is going on inside of them! What a great time to be living - IEMs have never been so good. ZS10s through to UE, JH, and 64... some incredible stuff out there. And yes, I'm still distracted by those UE6s - I suspect that's what I'll be recommending to people at the Drum Show when they inevitably ask.
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I was going to suggest a M32 Core (as X32 Core seems to be discontinued) and a SD16/S16 or both - so you can have a nice stage box dropped on stage for I/O, and a rack unit if you want some extra I/O off the stage. The XR18 could be replaced by by a SD16 and just a 1u rack unit as a small alternative (don't know if you are looking at keeping your XR18 or not). If you then get serious about PA, you can add a Compact/Producer for sliders and then you use AES to connect between the mixers for a FOH/Monitoring setup. Or you could do the whole lot in reverse - get the producer/compact - and add a M32 Core later.
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That's pretty much it - worth noting that the producer is also rack mountable (which may or may not be relevant depending upon what other stuff you may have). I take it you want physical faders?
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You'll need pretentious interconnects for that.
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Errh mehr gawddddd... he's only stumbled on the elusive PTTTHHHFFFFBBBBBBB tone!
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If it's SS, it's fine. If it's valve, you'll need a dummy load.
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My bro got married there and I played in the evening. Nice venue... and great for loading in/out.
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I've not seen the Fischer inear stick up close but I have used the passive version extensively with a band I dep with. Passive stick - https://www.thomann.de/gb/fischer_amps_mini_bodypack_mit_lsregler.htm - I would always get an amped version, as running earphones off your aux is not great practice... I have to say, I would be very surprised with the Fischer if it was better than the Behringer P2. The Behringer P2 looks like a more "production" ready system in my opinion... and the Fischer more utilitarian if that makes sense. The P2 for me was certainly a no brainer to have in my kit bag at £40, as the amount I use it is very limited... but does give me a lot of options now that I have all sorts of cables to accompany it. So for around £90, I have the P2 with all the cables and adapters I could ever want to make i fit in with any system. Now I understand that you may not have this requirement, but to do that with the Fischer was going to be pushing it closer towards the £200 mark... something I didn't really want to spend. I don't think you can go wrong with either. As I say, the P2 to me, looks more finished but I can't compare the quality of the amps in either as I haven't tried them side by side. The Behringer one though, is clean enough with a fair bit of headroom on it. I think ultimately, it comes down to whether or not you want to have Behringer written on your gear. I think the Behringer name on gear is becoming less of an issue - because since the release of the X32, their PA equipment at least, has certainly notched up a level (or a good few levels). I think Dood nails it. Fischer is small and the scale of manufacturing is against them compared to Behringer's manufacturing power. I suspect performance wise, they will be comparable.