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So what you are looking at is basically a quad with balanced armatures - as soon as you get a dual BA in the bass, you are into the realms of bass players as that dual low is where you need the most headroom to avoid distortion. To be honest, if you are looking at UE, the main competition is going to be 64 and JH Audio... and all of their quads are really good but all of them have a slightly different sound signature. If you do an A/B/C test of say a UE11 vs a JH11 vs a A4t (all around the 1k mark, with JH being the cheapest quad at 800 (note : that is not indicative of it's performance, it can easily sit on a level playing field with the A4t and UE), you're bound to favour one of the tunings over the other... and that's the one you should go for. At that price point and with those manufacturers, there's not really a better, just different. If you were to buy blind without listening to any of them, you will be happy with any of them. If you want to be more critical in your selection, you really need to listen to them side by side. The only other significant difference is that the 64s have the apex filter - which some people hate the look of immediately and will discount 64 for that reason alone. Some people actually think the apex filter is a strong selling point as it can help alleviate ear fatigue. That may be enough to sway you to 64. Others think that the apex filter is just snake oil. In short, you need to audition them all.

Ah - they'll come in no time at all. When Roxannes first came out, it was like a crazy 6 month wait time! There was a lot of frustrated people - me included! I think given the advances in manufacturing and their expanded operations, they are currently hitting around a couple of weeks... which is pretty incredible. When JH first emerged, it was running 6-8 weeks turn around on acrylic (e.g. non CF - which caused them an absolute nightmare) models. Just shows eh? I know there's the Drum Show at the end of the month - don't know whats happening this weekend in IEM world otherwise. All I know is, I'm hoping to spend it on my backside as I haven't had a weekend off in ages. You're going to love the Roxannes, they are a very cool piece... certainly one of my favourites - and you certainly aren't going to have any bass, distortion or headroom issues with them. You'll go deaf way, way before they run out of steam! 😛 Looking forward to hearing your views on your new arrivals. Always keen to hear how people are getting on with their new purchases. Talking of which, really looking forward to @intime-nick's post gig update with his new Lugs, which look to be pretty special too.

@andysg42 - your JHs can't be too far away? End of next week maybe?

So, my mate took delivery of his A12ts this morning after our trip of testing out IEMs (remember - the guy who was set on the JH Laylas, his current IEMs are ACS triples (T1s)). My phones has been hot this morning with messages of him being elated with the purchase. "OH MY GOD" "Sounds so wide - its actually quite disconcerting - it's HUGE" "Bass blew my c**k off" "So this is how IEMs are meant to fit!" "Fallen in love with music again good" "The fit is incredible" "These are so good I genuinely feel sad that most people will never know them" And because we all like photos... I also think they look amazing in all clear - given everything that is going on inside of them! What a great time to be living - IEMs have never been so good. ZS10s through to UE, JH, and 64... some incredible stuff out there. And yes, I'm still distracted by those UE6s - I suspect that's what I'll be recommending to people at the Drum Show when they inevitably ask.

I was going to suggest a M32 Core (as X32 Core seems to be discontinued) and a SD16/S16 or both - so you can have a nice stage box dropped on stage for I/O, and a rack unit if you want some extra I/O off the stage. The XR18 could be replaced by by a SD16 and just a 1u rack unit as a small alternative (don't know if you are looking at keeping your XR18 or not). If you then get serious about PA, you can add a Compact/Producer for sliders and then you use AES to connect between the mixers for a FOH/Monitoring setup. Or you could do the whole lot in reverse - get the producer/compact - and add a M32 Core later.

Another vote for the Neotech one.

That's pretty much it - worth noting that the producer is also rack mountable (which may or may not be relevant depending upon what other stuff you may have). I take it you want physical faders?

So - anything new on the horizon then?

You'll need pretentious interconnects for that.

Errh mehr gawddddd... he's only stumbled on the elusive PTTTHHHFFFFBBBBBBB tone!

If it's SS, it's fine. If it's valve, you'll need a dummy load.

My bro got married there and I played in the evening. Nice venue... and great for loading in/out.

I've not seen the Fischer inear stick up close but I have used the passive version extensively with a band I dep with. Passive stick - https://www.thomann.de/gb/fischer_amps_mini_bodypack_mit_lsregler.htm - I would always get an amped version, as running earphones off your aux is not great practice... I have to say, I would be very surprised with the Fischer if it was better than the Behringer P2. The Behringer P2 looks like a more "production" ready system in my opinion... and the Fischer more utilitarian if that makes sense. The P2 for me was certainly a no brainer to have in my kit bag at £40, as the amount I use it is very limited... but does give me a lot of options now that I have all sorts of cables to accompany it. So for around £90, I have the P2 with all the cables and adapters I could ever want to make i fit in with any system. Now I understand that you may not have this requirement, but to do that with the Fischer was going to be pushing it closer towards the £200 mark... something I didn't really want to spend. I don't think you can go wrong with either. As I say, the P2 to me, looks more finished but I can't compare the quality of the amps in either as I haven't tried them side by side. The Behringer one though, is clean enough with a fair bit of headroom on it. I think ultimately, it comes down to whether or not you want to have Behringer written on your gear. I think the Behringer name on gear is becoming less of an issue - because since the release of the X32, their PA equipment at least, has certainly notched up a level (or a good few levels). I think Dood nails it. Fischer is small and the scale of manufacturing is against them compared to Behringer's manufacturing power. I suspect performance wise, they will be comparable.

Nope - you’ll get one master EQ and limit over the aux. All other EQ will be that of foh or nothing at all (eg flat), depending upon the routing.

He did indeed.

The amp on the the Shure is very good - as you'd hope for the money. Although, remember, depending what desk you are coming off, you may have some EQ options on the aux outs that you are using.

Indeed - that was the one... absolutely soaked! Some good food offset it... a little! Was on at 4.

Played at The Big Feastival (corrected as my phone decided to autocorrect) yesterday. Got absolutely p1ssed on. Going to be finding mud in my gear for at least the next 12 months...

I assume we aren't looking at audiophile grade amps, just stuff that you want to use with your PA... so... heres a few suggestions for starters and all will get the job done Nice - Behringer P2, Rolls PM range, Millenium HPA In Ear (there's loads of rebranded version of this, the Thomann offering being just one, but the Studiospares one in red is pretty cool - got both the HPA and Studiospares one... and the Studiospares one looks slightly more pro). Big difference between the P2 and the rest, is one is body mounted, the other would need you to run a headphone extension. Nicer - Fischer Amps In-Ear Stick (effectively the thing that Behringer copied to create the P2 - they are near enough damn it the same thing, so you'd buy this if you don't like buying the Behringer brand) Nicest - Shure P9HW (effectively the P900 receiver but without the radio bits).

They aren’t ever going to compete against your 8s dood. That’s why you are paying the money for the 64s. Tuning is a bit part of it and KZ just don’t compete in the same arena. The strongpoint is the headroom over something like a 215. For critical listening, they will never feature - but for monitoring, they do the job better than most for headroom alone. You have to start spending some serious money to get headroom and IEMs sounding right.

He's a bit good, isn't he?

They look great - and the colour change has made them look a lot more pro in my book. Isn't it odd how the choice of colours can completely transform the end product. Not that I thought the mk1 issues were bad... I just think that this colour scheme has lifted them a step. I think that sometimes, the choosing of the colour can be the making or breaking of an IEM... and I've seen some pretty naff artworks and combinations that are just simply, well... hideous. But each to their own I guess. I also really like the contrast of pearl/white cables with black shells and they look really nicely made to be fair. There doesn't seem to be any obvious bubbles and the transition to the soft tips looks really sharp also. Those soft tips still look like they are easy to keep free of wax. One of my biggest gripes with opaque shells is that you can't see through them to see if the tubes are free of wax. The soft tips give you the best of both worlds; the solid shell look and the ability to see to clean them! I like them. I'd quite like a pair