EBS_freak

Best - Kemper for sure.

[quote name='crez5150' timestamp='1509450820' post='3398975'] Actually the issues generally arise because of placement by the users and other wi-fi frequencies . a lot of bands tend to place the box at the back of the stage which is usually cluttered with cabs, cables and other stuff.... place in line of sight as you would with most RF equipment and you will have much better results. [/quote] I was going to go into this - it wouldn't surprise me if there guys running 2.4Ghz wireless packs which given, there's only 3 channels free from inter-modulation, 1, 3 and 11... leaves things open to interference. Similarly, if you are in a venue with wifi, or particularly somewhere with multi wifi pops and repeaters etc, the likelihood of a problem is increased. Then, when you soundcheck, everything is ok... but then the punters come in with their phones constantly polling the airwaves looking for wifi access points... And of course, as crez points out, placement is kind. Sticking wifi points near any fader circuits, anything that generates large amounts of EM etc... it all adds to the problems. It's no different to co-coordinating wireless mics really... you can't just throw up mics and iems etc on random frequencies and hope that they all talk fine. They won't.

FFS, I think it's about time we stop talking about sexism and the like and all have a Diet Coke break. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdrE1VMxzoE

Marmalade sandwich generation.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1509448009' post='3398933'] OK, but what I thought I had implied was that either Behringer should fit a decent WiFi router in the first place, or dispense with it altogether and just have the RJ45 socket for either a direct computer connection or an external router. Out of interest what is the recommended external router for rock-solid WiFi connectivity in a professional set up? [/quote] I dont think that anybody is disagreeing with that. I suspect that the tooling is all there for the mass production of the product... and it's selling by the bucket load... so I guess they are not bothered about upgrading the unit. In terms of professional setups - there is not industry standard... the key point is that whatever router is chosen has the ability to add external coax cables to get the aerials out of the rack that the router is undoubtedly mounted in. Whether the router is rack mountable or not, is Cisco, Ubiquiti or whatever, or even the SOHO type of products from Netgear, DLink etc...as long as the aerials are external and provide the required range, things are usually not an issue. In reality, in the industry, the majority of big gigs are still mixed from a console... but the ipad helps speed up tasks predominately in the monitoring world where the engineer can walk the stage and be next to the artists on stage. Once the gig has started, the monitor engineer is typically back behind a console. The sole ipad mixing experience is defo geared mostly towards the consumer/prosumer market. You aren't going to see the likes of the XR18 at pro level "touring" gigs for FOH or monitoring duties...

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1509445932' post='3398911'] So there is a version available with no inbuilt WiFi and just the RJ45 connection? [/quote] No. But that's not what you said. There is an inbuilt Wifi unit AND an RJ45 connector.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1509445730' post='3398904'] Although IMO RJ45 connectors and Cat5 cables on the whole aren't sufficiently gig proof either. [/quote] I think the widespread industry use disproves that theory - however, the majority are ended with ethercon connectors as agreed, the jacks aren't particularly hard wearing for constant plugging/unplugging.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1509445730' post='3398904'] If the inbuilt router is so rubbish then it would make more sense to replace it with a RJ45 socket and for users to supply their own. [/quote] Err... they do have a RJ45 socket.

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1509397892' post='3398661'] "Nice tits", "fantastic arse". Sincere compliments, how could they possibly cause trouble? [/quote] I remember going to see a band play once and got talking to somewhat heavy on top lead guitarist. I think my opening statement was "hey, you've got a great rack going on there". Cue the most filthy glare thrown to a man in history. All I was doing the obligatory gear stalking... I think it was the first time I saw a Mesa Triaxis and Soundsculpture switcher in the flesh so to speak.

To add to the products mentioned above, a lot of people use the QSC Touchmix because it negates the need for an external ipad - although it does support remote connections to it. Also, worth looking at the Mackie stuff because if you are scared of app interfaces, they probably have the most simple interface out of all of them. Feature wise, the Behringer/Midas is pretty difficult to beat for the money... I've always liked the A&H stuff too.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1509434836' post='3398775'] Why do you need an external router to get the best out of some of these desks? Surely you can just create an ad-hoc network between the iPad and the desk? Besides it's yet another piece of kit adding more complexity and another potential point of failure. And like the vast majority of computer peripherals, I've yet to see a router that I would consider gig-proof. [/quote] You can - but the inbuilt wifi is a bit cack. I think it's best used for testing at home etc... but the majority of people have issues with the inbuilt mixer... having said that, some people don't... There's plenty of people using these devices very successfully.. and there are a few options available to you. A cat5 cable straight to a computer to the device will work. A lot of people go with the Airport Express so you can airplay interval music to the XR device also.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1509370065' post='3398360'] I think it's the same other than the warranty isn't it, it's got midas pre amps afaik? [/quote] It's got "designed by Midas" preamps as opposed to the Midas preamps that they put in their own desks. To be fair, the quality of the preamps on all digital desks compared to those on desks from say ten or fifteen years ago, has made the audible difference, especially in live applications, a bit insignificant.

Nope. Don't get it.

Just thought, you could get a 500 host such as this - http://www.soundskulptor.com/uk/501.html and stick a genuine 1073 in it. A simple a/b(/y) switch in front of it could route appropriately. If you put it sideways on your board with a switch on top, that may work.

[quote name='Endbass' timestamp='1509107586' post='3396674'] [color=#191919][font=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]I'm looking for high quality preamp/DI in pedal form, based on the Neve 1073. Like the API Tranzformer LX pedal, but then the Neve version. I know about the JHS Colour Box, but I'm looking for something of higher quality. Does it exist? Or does anyone know someone who could build that for me?[/font][/color] [/quote] You could try something along this line - http://www.tech21nyc.com/products/effects/qstrip.html More akin to a channel strip than your standard fixed frequency, fixed q pedals.

Well this is all disappointing reading. Its a nut for crying out loud - why can't they just put one in the post to keep people happy? Whilst we are hanging out praise... Hipshot for me. Unreal.. I asked them about intonation screws and springs... within a couple of days, I had every single plausible combination of screws and springs for what felt like at least two or three bridges. Spot on!

[quote name='moonbass' timestamp='1508878254' post='3395138'] Just wire the sub from an aux send. There should be an eq on the channel on the Soundcraft. I would only send the kick, bass, and possibly keys to the sub. [/quote] Assuming of course that you have a crossover for the top.

[quote name='only4' timestamp='1508840059' post='3394719'] That makes sense, is there any requirement for a graphic eq in this type of setup or would the channel eq be sufficient. [/quote] I don't know what desk you would be using - but you would eq on each channel. Strictly speaking you should tune your PA to the room but I can count on one hand how many self contained bands do that.

[quote name='only4' timestamp='1508793189' post='3394526'] Ok, thanks. We have just upgraded to the same 712's and 905 set up and want to avoid any issues from the outset. This is our first PA system with a sub and have no prior experience of using one. [/quote] To be honest, for most applications, an aux fed sub is an over complication and can actually contribute to a worse mix. If you aren't sure, stick with plugging into the sub and then up to the tops. If you are finding your mix too bassy or not bassy enough, you can adjust the volume on the back of the sub to balance (just make sure you don't set it peaking).

Let me guess... In E?

[quote name='only4' timestamp='1508788270' post='3394470'] Maybe I'm being daft but how would i go about running the sub through an aux in a way that you could control the eq being sent to it, without it affecting what goes through the tops? [/quote] If it's powered, it'll have a built in crossover. You would plug your powered tops into the main LR... and the sub into an aux. The problem with this is that without a crossover for your tops, you are going to be sending full range to your tops). If it's not powered, you'll need to signals to your sub through a crossover unit before going to the amp which would then power the sub. Same for the tops - the signal for those would go through the crossover and then to the amp before powering the tops.

Their originals aren't too shabby either... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We_n_tLR3D4

I've toyed with the idea of getting into EUB/DB... mainly down to seeing StingrayPete on his now and again when I get to his gigs... But whilst one of my YouTube aimless viewing, I came across Lake Street Dive and I saw this gem - [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1y_PHS0x4U[/media] Double bass and trumpet as feature instruments wouldn't be my choice of instruments to provide the backbone behind an acoustic setup - but something about this version really gels with me. (Kinda helps they can sing too) Also love this - although I think the bass gets a little less of the limelight! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5z7cYSbsFU[/media]

Ha! Love it.