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Ah yes - my mistake. You did tell me your desk. Yes- start HPFing things, that should clear stuff up pretty quickly. Don't be afraid to bring those HPFs right up - especially on things like guitars.

[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1477913397' post='3165152'] Thanks. Looks good. I normally run an 80Hz HPF on everything except bass and kick drum, it's built into the desk, and a Thumpinator on the bass rig. [/quote] Perfect.

[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1477906106' post='3165084'] Do you think these DB cabs would handle guitar and keys too? My 5-piece currently have an aging but serviceable peavey rig with subs which belongs to the singer. We put everything through it and use stage monitors and a small bass combo on stage. Singer has decided to sell the peavey and replace it with a Bose L1 which isn't going to cut it for a full band. I can go back to backline for bass but I want to avoid guitar and keyboard amps and maintain some control over the overall balance. [/quote] The short answer is yes - but for these speakers I would be using a HPF on the keys if you aren't using subs just to maintain some headroom - and anyway, you don't want the keys player in your domain anyway so it'll probably improve your mix anyway!

In another thread, I touched on the use of a pilot tone for stereo separation... this link may be interesting to those that are running stereo systems and maybe not getting the results that they want - http://shure.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3219/~/notch-filter-allows-for-best-in-ear-monitor-mix-ever!

I dunno - having heard some Thomann boxes, I would have to say that imho, they aren't in the same league as the DBs! Anyway, it's all pointless musing about it - glad that you have ended up what you needed!

Sounds like a Lakland to me. Something like a 44-02

I would wait on hearing the results with the other system before splashing your cash. Low cost IEM systems can be very low quality - especially when it comes to bass. It may be better to have a wired system. PS when using in ear systems, always go with the tactic that you can't hear anything unless it is piped into your inears mix. If you want to hear bass, drums or whatever, mic it up and put it in the mix. Your results will be very unpredictable if you are planning to rely on leaky headphones or pretty dangerous to your hearing if you are planning to have one in ear in and one in ear out. You may see the rockstars do it - but they are generally playing on large stages where the sound pressures aren't as loud as your typical gigs.

Good stuff!

The two systems parallel means that two system can be used within the 863-865 Mhz spectrum without them interfering with each other. On some systems, but not this one, you can use one stereo transmitter to transmit two different mixes to two different receivers that are on the same frequency. It does this by encoding the stereo information on the pilot tone and upper harmonic - which then can be used to separate out the left and right channel information - but that is probably two in depth to be worthwhile talking about for now. Anyway... for systems that support it... The receivers are set to a "focus" mode. One of the receivers is set hard left, the other hard right - what results is a mono mix (in both ears) for each receiver, the source being whatever has been sent left and right from the transmitter. As stated though, this unit does not support this. A transmitter can only transmit on one frequency, its use of the pilot tone and stereo information that enables you to do this trick. (its like tuning into Radio 1 and one of you picking up just the left channel and the other picking up just the right). Out of the box, you are going to need two of those Thomann systems for your plan to work. There may be a way however! You may want to think about wiring up a stereo to mono cable... one which takes the right channel and sums to both ears and other that takes the left channel and sums to both ears. It *should* work - assuming that the stereo separation on the Thomann unit is great enough to get a true left/right mix - warning, not all inears systems have a true stereo separation and either channel can contain audio from the other channel. Anyway, if you want to try this, I'm sure OBBM can wire you something up for not very much cash. If you are thinking of getting into inears, you may want to read the monster thread - http://basschat.co.uk/topic/205633-in-ear-monitors-help-needed/ - lots of great information... and it'll also tell you why running with only one ear piece is a bad thing (e.g. it's a shortcut to getting tinnitus - as you'll inevitably run the volume too loud to compensate for what your other ear is hearing)

I reckon they'd appreciate this on the MM forum... :-p

Neo 212 is killer. Best cab they do I reckon.

All sounding very positive so far. The ease of transport is defo a big plus! Happy that they've worked out and I think they are a far better investment than the Thomann ones you were looking at! Re - old speakers. Is there a rehearsal studio or something that will take them off your hands?

Good to see that everything is looking good prior to the gig... so crunch time, how did you get on?

^ Yes - this is the one... You can ask when people are not free and go from there... but there's always somebody that replies, "I think I'm pretty free...". What use is that? I'm the one dealing with the clients and you just come across like a complete d1ck if you don't know if the band can actually do a gig, especially if the client is saying, "I want the exact lineup that I saw at..." So even then you have to go around and confirm everything with everybody again.... and then you get a "Actually, I don't think I'm free". Was a lot easier in my last band where everybody took everything!

[quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1477669018' post='3163775'] Indeed, not everyone here plays with faultless musicians, so dealing with people who aren't always 100% is they way it works. [/quote] Lets face it, there is never such thing as a 100% faultless musician - even if you had Buddy Rich on drums, there would still be a problem. Aside from him being dead of course.

[quote name='FinnDave' timestamp='1477668650' post='3163770'] I've had to sack two people from the current band, but in neither case was it due to unreliability. If it had been, it would have made the job a lot easier! [/quote]

Man, I so want to see a JTUK gig where somebody makes a mistake. JTUK is the James Brown reincarnate. Getting fined and firing your band!

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1477666543' post='3163752'] Use to know a drummer a very long time ago who used to sing the song to know where he was...and it worked well for him, but I never understood why he never counted the bars. [/quote] You do know Phil C is gigging again, right?

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1477666047' post='3163746'] A recent experience had a drummer that used to come in on sections of a song at a completely different tempo to the tempo he start the song at.. [/quote] It's called a half time.

[quote name='bassace' timestamp='1477663644' post='3163719'] I was all for going to brother's gig until my Dad gave me the biggest 'lecture' of my life. I've never forgotten that lesson. Ever. [/quote] Sounds like a decent man.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1477637363' post='3163445'] You should see the fun they have trying to park them all up and then turning them all around come home time in the Tickled Trout car park! [/quote] Car parks are for losers, my friend.

Most bass players are too fixated on their left hand to glare at anything!

If you add a trim pot post the preamp you can cut the level of the output (e.g. match all your basses to the one with the lowest output) without impacting the loading on the pickups/tone. You're probably looking at 25k trim pot. (tiny little thing)

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1477657246' post='3163624'] Doesn't work if he's glaring at you. [/quote] As if there is a drummer out there who's face isn't completely obscured by cymbals.