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[quote name='FuNkShUi' timestamp='1469777291' post='3100940'] Tom uses the Behringer X18 too i think? [/quote] So tone shaping shouldn't be a problem. What about PA cabs?

[quote name='mrtcat' timestamp='1469731511' post='3100753'] I'm really into the idea of going IEM and no amp but as the person who does our engineering on gigs I never seem to be able to get a bass sound through foh that sounds as nice and tight as through my amp. I really really wish I could. [/quote] What PA are you using?

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1469717885' post='3100612'] Thanks for these. I was hoping for ones which would accept either 215s or noise reduction filters depending on the circumstances. [/quote] They may do - best to ask - I know that ACS universal single driver fits into their moulds - which also houses a standard size filter. Given the fact that their universal single driver also takes standard fit tips, it should figure that their moulds should take a 215 as 215s take standard tips also.

I think that you are misreading the aggressive attitude, there is certainly no aggression coming from my end. I am simply questioning your use of a DI to the quality of the REDDI and I would hope that you would be able to put forward a strong enough case to convince me why I should be using a REDDI myself, especially as my setup revolves around in-depth IEM mixes, no amp and relying on a killer FOH. As for the OP requirements, it was me that has actually been providing the advice that has got the OP to the point where he is now. Anyway, I have not used a REDDI but I have used other comparable DIs in my time. For a recording situation, I completely get it... but for a live situation, unless you are taking a live feed for recording, I don't see the benefit of using such an expensive DI. A gig is never in a sonically perfect environment compared to say, an audiophiles listening room or even a pair of high end headphones (I'm thinking Audeze LCD3 when I say this) that are being used to listen to prerecorded material - hence you are always starting at a disadvantage. The PA is never going to have the same sort of performance as a modest hifi setup... so you are at another disadvantage there... so I would say a decent desk with sufficient processing is good enough for a live situation and a REDDI isn't going to make a night and day difference to justify it's use... unless you can convince me otherwise. I think my key point is, that there is a lot more you can do to improve the sound in a live situation before considering such an expensive DI. </aggression>

[quote name='gillento' timestamp='1469704087' post='3100432'] I know that the sound in my inears is coming from a monitor desk onstage, with a signal split before it hits the stage snake [/quote] OK - and the REDDI and crucially your mix from the monitor desk are both in the signal chain before that sound gets to your ears. I don't get what you are saying?

[quote name='gillento' timestamp='1469703315' post='3100422'] I am not being funny at all. It plaec mine for the last 5 years in every studio session and on every live gig. It just makes the sound better. There's something especially on the higher notes that makes them sound fatter and warmer. I leave the final tone shaping to the FOH guy and do minor tweaks using a RMI/Lehle Basswitch in front of the REDDI. [/quote] Have you A/Bed? And if there's a FOH guy messing with your sound, how do you know your tone is down to the REDDI or the FOH guy?

[quote name='gillento' timestamp='1469702821' post='3100414'] I'd use a A-Designs REDDI straight into the FOH [/quote] Not being funny - but why? The tone shaping on a digital desk is far more powerful than your average preamp. I could understand in a recording situation too.., but in a live situation, the ability to sense any discernible difference between a generic DI and a REDDI would be pretty difficult. I'd be interested in knowing why you would pursue a REDDI?

[quote name='roceci' timestamp='1469700098' post='3100379'] Right that's it, I'm taking deps for every position to every gig from now on regardless of whether a regular member is absent or not. & maybe even deps for deps. Multiple heart failure or dyssentry could strike at any time. You just never know. [/quote] For those wedding gigs, don't forget to include a stand in bride and groom.

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1469699765' post='3100375'] Sorry in advance if this has been covered, but does anyone have a source for custom moulds which will take either SE215s or normal filters, depending on what is needed at the time? My son is a drummer and we all know what that can do to his ears. He has a pair of 215s but I want to get him a set of moulded plugs. If he could plop the 215s in as in-ears it would make sense for now. TIA. [/quote] http://www.custom-inearmonitors.co.uk/iems/custom-fit-earphone-sleeves.php http://acscustom.com/uk/product-category/hearing-protection/

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1469697476' post='3100344'] I can't understand why people think a modern PA with powered speakers is more of a liability than a conventional PA, worst case scenario we could use amps as back line, lead vocals straight into a powered wedge pointing at the audience and finish the gig with the damaged speakers. [/quote] You know, I was thinking about this statement - I can't actually recall a single instance where I have been at a gig, playing or otherwise, where a PA has failed. I've witnessed plenty of guitar and bass amp deaths though... and countless pedal board failures! Just how common is a PA failure nowadays?

[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1469694618' post='3100312'] Yeah, we play a range of gigs, from acoustic duo and trio to three and four piece setups, some with keyboards, some not, so we use more or less PA depending. We also use a range of deps, and getting everyone on board and sorted out can be more hassle than it's frankly worth. With a stable band lineup (hah!) and a more fixed infrastructure it'd be great, but that's just not where we (I) am at the moment. To reiterate, though, it's a great way to play, and if you can get the technology ducks in a row, it's very good indeed. [/quote] Funnily enough, I depped with a band two weekends ago and I turned up and I was handed a Fischer headphone amp and a pair of 215s. Not really keen on used 215s but I used my inears with the headphone amp and it sounded great. A couple of weeks before that, I depped for a band that I hadn't even met before and they had invested in 4 PSM200s... the bass player simply left me his wireless pack to use for the gig... I think if it's seen as a component of the PA (a monitor replacement) IEMs are set to become more popular. My inears rig for example (housed in a shallow 6u rack case) - replaces 12 monitor wedges.

So 64 Audio's Adel is now named Apex. Wonder why that is? Maybe as they are probably paying handsomely for the license, they want to get away from the Asius branding and push the technology under their own name?

[quote name='FuNkShUi' timestamp='1469653941' post='3100153'] I'm by no means an authority on this though. Check out the thread that's about 17 pages long titled "in ear monitors, help needed..." Or something along those lines. Plenty of good info and options in there! [/quote] Link to thread - http://basschat.co.uk/topic/205633-in-ear-monitors-help-needed/ I know it's a long read - but well worthwhile. It'll give you a great idea of exactly what's possible.

[quote name='Twincam' timestamp='1469633666' post='3099930'] Yeah the first bit is obvious. [/quote] You say that but you would be surprised at home many people think IEMs are for vocal only and spend their life turning up their backline or wear one IEM in and one IEM out. So yes, obvious to some, far from obvious for others. [quote] The second bit is not always a fact there's loads of great sounding bands that have plenty of on stage volume. I understand the concept but it just seems wrong. I know things are pretty reliable but what if something goes wrong, what if you find you monitoring goes down, what if the pa goes down and your in a situation where a backline could of got you through a gig? Etc etc I just think its a back up and as equipment is getting lighter its not so much of a pain. And you can always turn your backline down if its messing with the sound out front. So imo yeah you don't need an amp at all but might you need one maybe and bands with nothing on the stage look so boring lol. [/quote] There are lots of great sounding bands with plenty of stage volume. There are more than the fair share of bands which sound crap with plenty of stage volume. I would wager the chances of a front of house mix sounding great would be greatly improved with less volume and consequently less bleed across mics, whether they be vocal mics or instrument mics. You'll have a lot less problems with feedback too. The what ifs are applicable to any situation. How many people carry around a spare PA - just in case it goes down? No PA, you've got no vocals... and with no vocals, you have no gig anyway. As for the monitoring going down... well, you can get a cable and headphone amp for less than £40. You can get that setup. I reckon I could buy a few of those for less than a price of an amp if I was that paranoid. If I needed to scrape through a gig, I could but say a spare set of shure 215s or even use some iPhone headphones. It may not be perfect but it would get me through the gig. To poo poo the idea of IEM is a bit of a dinosaur view on the way that gigging is going. Yes, theres plenty of guys that refuse to embrace IEM - that's fine. Nobody is twisting anybody's arm. And do amps on stage really matter to anybody apart from gear stalkers? If the audience are getting bored... it's not because of a lack of backline to look at.

[quote name='Twincam' timestamp='1469632549' post='3099914'] Is there a reason you wouldn't want an amp? Even something small but half capable. Seems with all these tiny heads and lightweight cabs its not a massive hassle having a lightweight setup too. Why not have both? in ear monitors and a little rig. [/quote] Because with decent fitting inears you wouldn't hear your rig anyway. Less sound on stage = cleaner mix out front.

[quote name='FuNkShUi' timestamp='1469623214' post='3099792'] Well i have nothing to compare the UE900s to really, apart from standard headphones. Which isnt really fair. But i was impressed! Really impressed. To be fair the seal is good, 90% of the time. Just now and again when i go to speak or sing etc, i lose the seal. Cant complain at all really, just being picky (and justifying the custom moulds ) Yeh i would have thought you're right regarding the pre amp on the X18. I think it will take a bit of research, and trying a few things out. It's all good though, i look forward to all the experimentation with my new bit of kit [/quote] If you try your standard phone headphones (e.g. those apple phones that people seem to rate) in the band situation, you should discover their shortcomings pretty quickly - particularly if you are running uncompressed bass. When singing - yeah, that's a problem for some people too - if you go custom, make sure you go for an open mouth impression if you are the lead singer - or semi open impression if you are a backing vocalist. Justification of the customs is fully understandable - I just don't think you can get anywhere near the seal of customs with universals. Experimentation is key - get to grasps with what you have got before spending anything - especially things like Avalons!

[quote name='FuNkShUi' timestamp='1469606422' post='3099621'] Tried the set up at last nights practice. I'm converted!! The seal wasn't 100% all the time from the standard memory foam tips, so will look to custom moulds next, but for the meantime, bloody hell what a difference! Don't need a speaker anymore so wondering if i even need an amp, or if its a better idea to purchase a quality Pre-amp and have that driven by the PAs power amp. Don't even know if that's possible! A Whole new world of opportunity has been opened to me [/quote] Woop! Welcome to the new world. Glad to hear that there has been a revelation. I'm surprised you can't find a set of tips out of that lot that will seal properly - however, your ears may be like mine - completely odd shaped and nothing stays in there (apart from my customs). At least if you go for a reshell you haven't thrown away money as you can still make use of the UE900s as the donor - so all is good! (Can't really do that with 215s!) Talking of which - how are you finding the UE900s? You have enough bass - without any signs of struggling? I think you'll be stoked with the dual lows, especially when you take them out on a gig. If you do go custom moulds, I think you will be further impressed - the customs give an extra something that you can't even begin to contemplate until you have them - perfect seal, greater isolation so you can control your mix even better - and crucially even further extension of the bass (the better the seal, the better the bass response). It's crazy that people balk at the cost of IEMs - but when you consider what people spend on Bergs, Vanderklays etc... and just use them for a monitor on stage (with the PA doing all the work out front) IEMs can actually be pretty cheap and actually deliver you a far superior sound at a far safer, more enjoyable volume. I'm kind of jealous of people going through the revelation and seeing how good in ear monitoring can be. I'm pretty far along my IEM journey now but have found it to be extremely addictive chasing the perfect onstage mix in my ears. Nothing compares to that first gig I did with a proper IEM setup though. Game changer. Even years on, I still love it and am completely addicted. re: preamp, unless you are recording, I would wager that the inbuilt preamp on your X18 is infinitely more tweakable than any analogue preamp. What I would do, is either physically split your bass into two channels on your desk, or digital replicate the input of one channel onto another channel on your desk (through routing). That way, you can eq just your bass for front of house and eq for your inears independently - this is obviously different to the global EQ that you have on your aux out. You'll find that the sound that you EQ out the front is not ideal for inears - you'll probably want to curb the treble... and the bass - well, that depends upon if you are running subs out front or not. Same with guitar too - guitar can sound thin through inears so make use of the processing on the desk on a channel strictly for your inears. Above all, keep experimenting.

[quote name='Asambique' timestamp='1469536777' post='3099085'] I want to pick up a reverb pedal, the ebs dynaverb and the tc electronic hall of fame have my attention. The hall of fame seems more versatile out of the two. I have only been able to check out video's online but am still unsure of which to go for. Anyone here tried one or both and have an opinion? any other pedals worth a look at? cheers [/quote] Absolutely check out the MXR M300 reverb too. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAeWwMC2EaI[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81du3joU1mo[/media]

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1469533938' post='3099036'] If someone is not interested in hearing any other options other than the two options they initially supply......don't ask on a forum Si [/quote] Good point! Likewise, if somebody has a different opinion that would seemingly go against the grain, accept that people do have different opinions/experiences that may not adhere to your experience/opinion/liking.

Buy a Shuker! ...or am I a few years late for that one?

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mooer-PDNT9V2A-9v-2A-Power-Supply-For-Pedal-Board-/231152358252?hash=item35d1c1136c:m:mkFXHoC7S587xdKegR4m6Pg"]http://www.ebay.co.u...S587xdKegR4m6Pg[/url] 9v 2A I also wouldn't worry too much about the Chinese thing given that they seem to manufacture most of the PSUs out there. I remember the Jonny Shreadfreak vs Diago PSUs- both exactly the same unit - one was a tenner, one was a whole lot more (40-50 quid?). I found the same unit again for four quid. All they do is buy up a Chinese manufactured PSU and stick a brand name label on it.

I never subscribed to the Bartilini = dark logic. One of those internet trends spoken by people that have no experience probably.

This may be your best option!

I was looking at leisure batteries for you - but you are going to be lucky to get even an hour and a half out of even the top ones for your amp. If you an amp that pulled less power you may be able to get circa 3.5 hours. for example, Reidmar 250 with 400W Max demand with a 12v 250ah battery - 3.12 hours worse case (because I would assume that it doesn't pull 400W constantly). Here's a battery - you could get two I guess... as you will lose a bit on inverter conversion (which you'd also have to price up). http://www.alpha-batteries.co.uk/250ah-banner-energy-bull-leisure-battery/ Not cheap.

[quote name='Gunsfreddy2003' timestamp='1469174430' post='3096266'] Yep 100% - just looking for bulk order discounts now! [/quote] Difficult. I'm in a similar boat at the moment. 40, 60, 80, 100 but then I order a separate 125. That seems near impossible to do currently. Looks like I'll be phoning the distribution guys for advice.