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[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1465160123' post='3065780'] He smelled the biscuits I'm tellin ya, I bet he has pockets full of digestives! [/quote] He'll be getting all Andy Dufresne, sneaking biscuits out of here.

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1465158057' post='3065741'] All of this and more is exactly why I don't come on here anymore [/quote] Does anybody else see the fundamental problem with this post...?

[quote name='Kev' timestamp='1465072214' post='3065150'] I thought he would be using a Maruszczyk by now... [/quote] :-p

[quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1464974264' post='3064336'] Personally I think it's brilliant that Alex had an idea an ran with it. And to attract someone of TC's quality is great and will no doubt help fill the order book. With so many start up companies going under within 12 months of starting I would have said Alex was utterly mental to set up a manufacturing company in the UK. But he's managed it, and whether I like the cabs or not (only tried the One10, and I've got my order in for a second one) it's a very welcome success story. I wonder if Larry Hartke would get the repeated slagging on here that Alex gets? Somehow I doubt it. [/quote] Where is Alex getting slagged?

[quote name='paul h' timestamp='1464956096' post='3064120'] <tangent>John Entwistle. I think he was the perfect bass player for The Who and the band wouldn't have been the same without him. However I don't get it. Especially in later years he had probably one of the worst bass tones I've ever heard in my life and his clickety clackety, typewriter falling down stairs style does absolutely nothing for me.</tangent> [/quote] Given his liaisons with the ladies and his affection for the white stuff, I figured tone didn't really figure up his list of priorities in latter years.

Marquees eat volume... but having said that, just make sure you put out a balanced sound... so in other words, if you are the quietest, make sure everybody is only as loud to be balanced with you. I don't know what the event is but if it's something like a wedding, you only have to be loud enough to fill out the dancefloor and not necessarily the whole marquee.

It all depends upon the context of a band. I'd quite happily do a coffee shop gig with a 1x12... You'd probably get away with it in quiet more acoustic focused bands... but you'd likely be wanting if you got much louder or larger venues. Probably worth clarifying whether this 1x12 has got to provide for front of house too... or whether it is just monitoring... or whether it's working whilst being supported by a PA (and of course, what PA - as that will change depending upon venue)

[quote name='skychaserhigh' timestamp='1464882544' post='3063500'] You have just announced your not liking of a Barefaced cab ...out loud on Basschat... *puts on crash helmet and waits for the fan club to wade in* Is anyone else going to the shops...?? [/quote] Best get some arnica and some plasters too. EDIT: hopefully it won't get to stitches. EDIT2: or broken limbs.

[quote name='Mudpup' timestamp='1464881124' post='3063482'] Has TC got some new cabs then? - I was looking at that tatty old Ampeg and thought he would be able to afford a nice new class D amp by now I thought we would be discussing the anti heft brigade...... [/quote] Oi, what you doing around these parts, get off to the shop.

[quote name='Mudpup' timestamp='1464880760' post='3063472'] nips to shop for more biscuits....... [/quote] Best take the van.

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1464876988' post='3063422'] Finally what? That post implies we were in the throws of battle and you've just won? If that's how you feel then well done! All I ever said on this thread is that it's a great endorsement, and honestly it feels like you have been picking away at my posts, attempting to prove me wrong about something. I always thought you were a pretty cool dude and liked and respected your posting style. I guess I should have continued to avoid the BF threads but Timmy C is a bit of an idol for me so I thought I'd join in. [/quote] I hope you don't feel like that. I enjoy your posts too. I'm not picking away at your posts either - the finally comment was more of an acknowledgement of somebody getting what I was trying to get across.

[quote name='AndrewJordan' timestamp='1464875965' post='3063405'] And with that question you have kind of reinforced Alex's point! [/quote] No, it's called a control. If you are measuring one variable, you have to keep the other a constant - aka a control.

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1464873290' post='3063365'] They're probably playing a small part in a very complicated chain and mix. [/quote] Finally.

So which is it? Is it good to overpower the FOH mix or not? If it's not overpowering the FOH mix then the audience aren't hearing the cab directly... and the loudness of the cabs is kind of a moot point. Or if it is... That's not very good for a balanced FOH mix is it?

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1464870455' post='3063300'] Barefaced are one of the very few cab manufacturers to publish full specifications of their products. [/quote] Or are they? How do you know?

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1464870417' post='3063298'] I've never seen one of these famous "barefaced bashing threads" before and I'm quite perplexed now that I'm actually in one. Anyway, just on the point of close-micing - I do a lot of recording, and I've recorded a lot of different bass cabs with 10" speakers. They all sound different to me, no matter how close my mic is. [/quote] But do all these lots of different cabs have the same 10" speaker?

[quote] 5. There are a lot more differences between our 10CR range and every other 10" bass guitar cab on the market than simply the addition of a low pass filter on half the drivers in the larger cabs. If you doubt that, ask why people are liking the One10 so much, when previously 1x10" bass cabs have been rarely usable for bass without accepting massively compromised tone. [/quote] Who is liking them so much? [quote] It's a shame when opinion masquerades as fact. [/quote] Ditto with marketing blurb.

[quote] 1. Tim C rarely uses in-ears. [/quote] Pictures would suggest otherwise [quote] 2. Tim used to use two 4x10"s and one 8x10", or two 8x10"s, depending on whether he was running two or three heads and the related pedalboard. [/quote] If the cabs are miced like they are it wouldn't matter if it was a 1x10 or a 32x10. [quote] 3. The sound of a speaker and the sound of a cab are inextricably intertwined - the cab determines how the speaker sounds and vice versa. If you mic a speaker you hear the sound of the cab, just like if you look at a person in a hall of mirrors you see what they look like from that angle and many other angles too. [/quote] Agreed. But the sound from the cabs is significantly decreased to the point of being negligible the closer you mic the speaker. [quote] 4. I've never had a problem with 10" speakers, I just had a problem with speakers that couldn't do what I needed them to do and the assumption that a certain diameter of speaker is ideal for bass guitar with no logic or engineering sense behind it. [/quote] It was more to do with the speakers not being in a column that I believed you were complaining about. There is a point to be made about cabs and music where things aren't engineered perfectly. And those "engineering" inadequacies are exactly what people are drawn to. For example, classic cars have a cult following because they don't drive like new cars. There is a certain unmeasurable enjoyment factor of an old car being shakey on its wheels whilst taking a corner at speed that excites people - this just isn't the same in modern cars. The way they look, the way they smell - some people get off on this stuff... So taking an old car and engineering out everything that made it what it was, destroys the soul and magic of what that car once was. Same applies to old Fenders basses. Same applies to those 4x10 cabs and 8x10 cabs which were of course hideously unusable before BF came along.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1464867024' post='3063257'] And by the way, if you think that the rest of the band can't hear Tim's rig onstage, or that the audience can't hear it in a venue as small as the Whisky A Go Go, you clearly have no idea quite how loud a rig this powerful and large is! [/quote] I do. Any 410 running at any significant volume is going to be heard at Whisky A Go Go I bet the sound men love him overpowering the foh mix.

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1464866216' post='3063243'] Tim Commerford, the daddy of bass tone [/quote] /thread clearly.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1464864724' post='3063234'] Once again, the big revelation is [i]inside [/i]the 2X10, 4X10 and 8X10. I'm not going through it again, all the info is on the website. [/quote] You mean the LPF(s) on one of the columns... which given the apparent fact (courtesy of dood in this thread) that the soundguy has close miced up the full range speakers (meaning that the sound of the cab is irrelevant) which then go to feed the foh, monitoring and any recording, actually doesn't come into play at all... especially as TC wears inears? I think I'm being to understand now.

Sorry

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1464863349' post='3063210'] I did. Avalon U5 as a preamp into a QSC PLX3002 power amp. That was into two Acme Low-B2s but they were then replaced by a DIY cab of my own design which became the Barefaced Big One. The Barefaced Big Twin 2 is the direct descendant of that first cab and I still use that same rack. Until you get into [b]very[/b] expensive (and usually very bulky and heavy) active PA speakers I don't think it's possible to achieve better high accuracy reproduction of your DI'd tone. [/quote] Not baiting here - just generally interested. What's your definition of very expensive and what sort of spec?

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1464863198' post='3063208'] You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? [/quote] Not at all - in fact, again, I couldn't care less if he did or didn't do that - my comment was and still is, completely tongue in cheek. [quote] I'd say it almost never gives you the same tone as the artist using it. Like signature basses. The point is, he thinks Barefaced gear is more than good enough, the implication being that if it's good enough for him, then it's good enough for you. [/quote] And conversely... Lots of name artists use Fender basses - but there is a trend on here that if you buy a jazz bass, you do your best not to buy a Fender and go for one of the many boutique clones. From what I can tell, a 2x10, 4x10 and a 8x10 has been swapped out for a 2x10, 4x10 and a 8x10. I don't quite see the big revelation.