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[quote name='owen' timestamp='1451906392' post='2944381'] Yeah, the guy who is talking of tracking issues is comparing it to a Boss sy-300 or Roland v-bass which are very different animals from the FI. [/quote] Hmm. I don't think that the SY300 tracks that well... Wonder what that means then...

Yup, I know Funkle Dave. He's grand.

[quote name='sbrag' timestamp='1451817030' post='2943569'] I'm about to pull the plug but can't choose between the Smoothound and Sony. There doesn't seemove much to choose between them. I'm probably erring towards the Smoothhound due to battery life and i like the design but there isnt much to choose. Any final suggestions before I buy i mostly will be doing pub/club and the occasional function gig. [/quote] Both will do the job. In short, the main differences are - Bug thing vs Pack AA vs AAA Latency (but only a concern if you are running through other digital devices) You can't really go wrong with either.

Does what it meant to do I guess. I haven't used it after a particularly sweaty gig though!

New drying toy for after those sweaty gigs. UV blasts the nasties, then fan and silica stuff to absorb the sweat. Nice!

We've all had the perfect bass for years (won't mention which) - it's just everybody else wildly buying whatever is in vogue that is screwing the stats.

Of course, we got to be careful that these basses don't end up looking like can openers...

[quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1450822461' post='2936282'] 'Fender' SC [url="http://s54.photobucket.com/user/warwickhunt/media/sc%20sado_zpsoegjtdrj.jpg.html"][/url] [/quote] Only one Fender SC for me -

see link below.

I gave up watching after a few minutes. I think I got the York notes from this thread.

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1450646920' post='2934618'] The logical thing to do would be to install one using side LED dots on a neck. Octave dots = in tune. Either side sharp or flat. It all sounds so easy. [/quote] Believe it or not, that was destined for my second GB bass - however, there was a number of things to consider about it which ultimately, led to the idea being canned. Was going to be strobe/sharp or flat setup as you describe. First up, there's another switch on the bass - another thing to go wrong... and obviously, the switch would mute the main output so if the switch fudged, there goes your bass until you can get it fixed. Second, you have to code in what you want your tuning to be... most likely B E A D G C... but when there's a drop D on a 4 string bass, how would you cleanly switch between the E and D as what you want to tune to? Third, the interface is not so so great... if doesn't tell you the note that you are tuning... so the risk of tuning on the wrong string when in a high pressure quick tune situation is greatly increased. We figured it would be cool to have - just like the G spot on the GBs are... but they are never really meant to replace a stage tuner... and the cost of implementing it... well, you may just go out and buy a separate tuner.

[quote name='gazzatriumph' timestamp='1450383005' post='2932317'] I put my Line 6 transmitter in a pouch which slides on to the guitar strap so never had a problem with the battery compartment door. The strap clip supplied is useless, the unit itself works great and the battery life indicator is useful. [/quote] Which pouch are you using? Neotech?

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1450361355' post='2932035'] as I said, DI not possible. No DI out and if I put the bass through a DI box it will be dry through the PA, as the amp modeling and fx's are generated by the head. There is a digital out - for recording - but this cuts the sound to the speaker. [/quote] DI is possible - it's just not what you have been used to. A wet/dry mix is often preferable to a complete wet mix - especially if you are running things like distortion which have a habit of robbing the low end. Try it, you may like it.

No worries - Mackie wise, I'm guessing SRM350 or SRM450. I know of K-Array - and know they are pretty pricey! Thing is, your room has to be of a certain size before having your speakers in an array become advantageous.

[quote name='Alec' timestamp='1450275839' post='2931267'] Which does beg the question as to what PA Scalpy's band is currently using, as I don't think I saw any mention of Mackies... [/quote] Last sentence - [quote] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif](What he absolutely doesn't want is two grey plastic boxes like his current mackie set up.)[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][/quote][/font][/color]

This thread comes around every year - so here's my obligatory "bassline on christmas wrapping" comment. My fave track has to be Shaky's track.

If he goes for the mini array system, let us know when he puts it up for sale. I'm always intrigued about how much time people are willing to give them before they figure that they aren't fit for their use. I think he could do himself a favour by staying with the Mackies...

Heil PR40 is a good contender - but if possible take a DI also.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1450226850' post='2930830'] A couple of weeks ago we had a dep singer, who bought along a similar PA to the L1, I think it was a MAUI system? Sounded pretty good in a noisy pub in front of a noisy band, but I think they are still very expensive. The keys and bass drum also went through it. [/quote] That's the LD Systems take on the mini array.

[size=4][color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font][quote]The FR800s don't do it for me. They're expensive compared with the competition, they're big and I don't like their looks. But you also can't get past the fact that they're a niche product that is unlikely to have the resale value that more conventional units have. And I actually don't believe they'd outgun a similar sized quality 15 cab or a rather smaller 12" cab like the ART 722 or DSR 12 - and . But why not take advantage of the trial period? Just make sure you use it to compare them with others, as that kind of money gives you lots of choice.[/quote][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font]Couldn't agree more.[/font][/color][/size]

[size=4][color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font][quote name='Alec' timestamp='1450189434' post='2930383'] Those 15" ART 700 series cabs are HUGE, though.[/quote][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font]Well, big... but not unmanageable! My bread and butter is function bands and as far as I am concerned, it's a do it all speaker - I believe that they are still the best out there. I guess it all depends what the needs of the singer and the band are. I'd rather carry around a bigger speaker that isn't going to run out of steam or bass... The number of times I've heard bands that sound all tinny when the venue is full and the bass is all vacuumed up into oblivion!...[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font][quote]The 310 and 710 were very similar to each other. What was daft was the amount of level and subjective bass output from such a small driver and cab.[/quote][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font]The original 310s (blue logos) were pretty incredible speakers. Made for ace monitors - and were used extensively before well all committed to IEM. Whether I would use them in an 8 piece band for front of house... especially with a brass section, I'm not sure.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font][quote]The 722 sounded the most gorgeous of the bunch, especially on vocals - which was my number one priority. When I need my system to kick it runs with subs. But the bottom end of the 722s was ace and tight.[/quote][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font]Again, lovely speakers - 12s seem to be the most common choice - arguably the sweet spot for vocals... but again, subs are required for some serious thump. I've never been convinced by any single 12 inch top with kick going through it. Again, I guess it comes down to what the OP's band sounds like and what they are trying to get these speakers to do. If it's just vocals, then yeah, absolutely, 12s could work.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font][quote]The odd two were the 15 cabs. The older 325 had an astonishing amount of output, but no bottom end extension - mainly because RCF went cheap and used the same cab as for the 12" 322s. But with a sub it's an absolute monster, albeit quite a bit heavier. The 725 was *so* much bigger than the 722, that was a complete stopper for me. To me it sounded more of a disco speaker. It had a little more bottom end extension than the 722, though surprisingly little, but it wasn't elegant. And its performance on vocals was nowhere near as elegant as the 722.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font]So, for my needs the 722 was a clear winner for FOH use, though I have 4 of the baby 710s for monitoring and smaller PAs. All that said, those models are now superseded by the 745 and the 732, so all bets are off - but I suspect they might not be a million miles away.[/quote][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font]The 745s are a completely different beast - a ) because of the 4" coil in the compression driver... but also b ) due to the radically different cross over point. Very capable in the bass, more so than the predecessors - but there's less of the disco vibe because there is so much more available in the highs, again due to those 4" compression drivers.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font][quote]I'm very happy with my cabs, but of course they're not the only choice. If I were in the market now, I'd be looking hard at the Yamaha DSR line, though the cheaper DXRs are also commendable. And many others are also great deliverers, like Alto Truesonics at the lower cost end.[/quote][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=-apple-system-font]Agreed - the DSR offer very good value for money... I guess the thing to do, is go down to a decent PA store where you can A/B the whole lot... same as you would with bass gear really.[/font][/color][/size]

Having been down the Bose route before, I would say that they are best suited to an acoustic act. Vocals with guitar/pianos... Anything more than that, they aren't much cop. They can be as portable as you like but if they can't keep up with the drummer, you are going to be in for a whole host of pain. The suggested placement of behind you is ludicrous at high volume also. Feedback city. Save yourself the headache... these mini line arrays just don't work for electric bands. My recommendation? Two RCF 745a. Same sort of concept as the FR800... BUT... 4 inch compression driver - your vocals are gonna sound out of this world... I'm not aware of any competing product that has such a driver. These things also go LOW and LOUD (more so than the FR800 - although to be fair, the RCFs do sport a 15" woofer.).... so unless you want some seriously subby kick drum, you are going to be good for most small/medium sized gigs. They are also a killer solution for a disco PA if you need to pipe some recorded music between sets. I would wager they would absolutely destroy any cabs up to the same price point. Oh, and they'll sit on the back seats of a Mini with no trouble... although make sure you get some padded Hotcovers to put them in to keep both car and speakers minty fresh. Nobody seems to be mentioning desks... the Bose has the tone match... what are you using for your band?

http://www.shure.co.uk/products/microphones/microphone-series/motiv Some of this stuff looks pretty interesting. I use a (getting on a bit now) Tascam DR-07 (Mk 1). Have to say it's pretty good... but like with all these recorders, beware of handling noise and make sure you ALWAYS use a wind/pop filter. Your recordings will thank you for it.

[quote name='jezzaboy' timestamp='1450124469' post='2929881'] The one that made me chuckle was when Beedster was selling a horse. Its true I tell ya!! [/quote] I remember that!

Was looking at a Warmoth J build to treat myself in 2016. Having seen the spec of these now, I'm not sure whether it's worth it - these guys seem to be on the money. Just need to have a good look through their website.