EBS_freak

A lot of players may find this a worthwhile upgrade.

Not keen on the blocks... but loving the piano

If you like the sound of what you have and just want more of that, buy another SVT115e.

[quote name='bassmanbish' timestamp='1344342305' post='1763029'] I just think it's amusing that he's going to use these strings (or at least 'says' he is) on a headless bass and they don't even seem to be available in double ball end sets. Yes, I know that the single ball end sets can be anchored using the grub screws in the nut piece, but what a faff! I know what sort of string I'd rather use on a headless! It does seem very strange to me that he's moved to Rotosound in favour of Status strings, particularly as Rob Green seems to constantly chuck gear in MK's direction. Just as long as he doesn't go back to Fender... [/quote] There's probably the next incarnation of the King Bass just around the corner, with head, to enable him to make use of the new strings. Of course, all the MK-ites will have to buy those, so I don't think Rob is losing any sleep. I wonder how many people will start using Rotos because of Mark King? Unlike Mark King, most people don't have a fresh set of strings for each gig - which in my experience, is necessary with Rotos!

[url="http://www.fbass.com/blog/article/27/f-speaker-cabinet-joins-the-f-bass-arsenal/"]http://www.fbass.com/blog/article/27/f-speaker-cabinet-joins-the-f-bass-arsenal/[/url] Looks like F Bass have joined the ranks of cab manufacturers. Wonder how long these last before being criticised for their inferior design.

Ridiculous money for what is essentially a CNC cut and assembled bass. They are workhorse basses, not boutique basses and I think at that price, they are just going to fail. I think all it's going to do is drive people away from using their basses. Thinking about it, it's probably a way of them pushing the prices of the Sterling branded basses up towards a grand. As for Warwick. Stupid money... and as said, it's done nothing for the resales. If anything, it's a reason not to buy a new Warwick.

[quote name='lettsguitars' timestamp='1343986109' post='1758148'] bareknuckle(do they do bass pups?) [/quote] Oh yes. Had a pair of J bass pickups. Wow.

[quote name='WalMan' timestamp='1343825698' post='1755820'] You did mean astronomer didn't you!? Seems an odd mix otherwise Of course you could have meant psychic, in which case I suspect NASA's reply might have been a two word email with the second one being "off" and he would probably have had the fluence to that effect [/quote] Ha yeah! Astronomer. Astrophysics and that stuff.

Celestion RnD in Ipswitch would be quite interesting.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1343899782' post='1756913'] You don't even need a fancy drill, I've drilled enclosures just fine with a hand power drill! [/quote] Indeed. A centre punch and a hand drill is all you need. And a file to deburr afterwards... if you care about that sort of thing!

Any news?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYdej8v3QoE&feature=related For when it's evident that the room and your cab don't see eye to eye...

Compact for cheap <> offer on Compact. Dirty tactics there Mr C.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1343836451' post='1756071'] (and my current car is a 100k+ Honda Civic so it's not exactly posh).[/quote] That's must have some pricey ricer mods for 100k+...

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1343836179' post='1756061'] I've told you a thousand times why. The amp wasn't powerful enough for your band, the tone of the amp and cab and your bass and your playing wasn't suitable for your band (bear in mind you said you were going to use it with a different and more powerful and less muddy amp but then didn't) and the only output that was loud enough to cut through the mix was down at the bottom. If you use an amp you don't like with one of our cabs then the cab is only going to show off why you don't like it! And if it's not very powerful then it's going to be even worse because you'll only hear the bits that are out of the range of the other instruments, i.e. below the guitars and in between kick drum hits. [/quote] Make that a thousand and one now!

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1343835971' post='1756054'] For those of you that don't think this stuff matters enough to be worth caring about when choosing a cab (or indeed designing one), what the hell are you doing wasting your time on a forum about bass amps?! [/quote] Anyway, I think it's about that time we should sum up the thread - "What's the big problem with 4x10?!" Answer? The simple fact is there is nothing wrong with a 4x10. It's just that a cab engineered for better dispersion will have better dispersion. That's pretty much it.

[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' timestamp='1343835490' post='1756038'] So we couldn't hear the difference in the 60s because we didn't have the understanding? I'm not saying that what experts like Bill and Alex talk about isn't true (I respect their posts and trust them) but it makes such a small difference once you've taken into account all the factors that 99% of people aren't even aware of it and the majority of that 1% isn't bothered by it. If it was a serious concern and something that should be taken into account when buying, it'd be a much bigger deal. Just for the record, I went from two 210RBH cabs to two 410RBHs and never noticed a difference. Maybe I would've done if I'd specifically listened for it or directly compared them (I didn't own them at the same time) but I've certainly never thought "bloody hell, this cab goes really quiet/sounds totally different when I stand here" with my 410RBH and I've used my wireless with that and gone into the audience at various gigs ranging from the amp being on the floor to being at head height (for the audience). [/quote] You liar.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1343828730' post='1755885'] A cab with better polar response will work better in less ideal positions than a cab with poor polar response. [/quote] Didn't say it wouldn't. [QUOTE] Funnily enough, look what I wrote a few hours ago: [/QUOTE] So you did, I must have missed it in all the excitement. [QUOTE] Using science and engineering to design better loudspeakers isn't about trying to make some theoretically 'ideal' (WTF would what be anyway?) bass cab, or making something that sounds good in theory but not in practice (HTF do you manage that unless you're some hack who doesn't really have a clue what the scientific method entails?) This isn't some kind of pure maths style playing around with ethereal bollocks, it's actually looking at the REALITY of gigging and using engineering to design cabs that perform better in the REAL WORLD, not in a guitar shop or in someone's bedroom. A cab that you know you can trust to sound as good as possible when the stage layout isn't great, when the room acoustics are poor, when you don't have time to soundcheck properly, when the guitarist or drummer play too loud so you end up pushing it really hard. f*** theory, this is about PLAYING REAL GIGS! [/quote] Again, I agree... but I still maintain that the majority of people out there still don't care. If we did, and felt that the improvement was worthwhile the investment, we all would be playing <INSERT SUPER CAB MANUFACTURER HERE> cabs. Just how much better is one cab over another at a gig... really...?

[sub]Not a problem with the understanding. I was referring to the practicality and hence what the reality of gigging is like. It's a tradeoff. Need a tweeter in your cab? Oh dear. Dispersion from your cab isn't going to help you much.[/sub]

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1343824501' post='1755780'] Said thinking obviously falls into the wishful category. [/quote] Not really. There's a problem in translating scientific ideals into the reality of gigging. The two aren't mutually compatable.

I'd love to know what venues you guys are playing. Drumkit and available space normally dictates where you are going. Yes, place your amp in the ideal space but that will probably fck up the stage plan for everybody else. OK, soundcheck. Sounds great. Now the previously empty room fills with people. What happens? Yes, your sound completely changes. Do you guys actually leave your bedrooms?

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1343821262' post='1755691'] If none of the punters give a sh1t then why bother playing gigs? Music is nothing without tone, the two are inextricably linked. The reaction a band will receive is dependent on what they sound like (and look like because we're visual creatures too). The sound of band is a combination of what they're playing, how they're playing together, what everyone's tones are like, how they interact and so on and so forth. A band that sounds better SOUNDS BETTER! If someone comes away from a gig saying "that band sounded amazing" aren't they most likely to be talking about how good the music sounded? And isn't one component of the music sounding good being the mix of the instruments sounding good wherever that punter was standing? [/quote] Because your opinion of what is sounding good is based on musically trained ears. How many times have you been to a gig and thought "that was bleedin' awful", "the sound guy doesn't know what the hell he is doing", only for people around you to be singing the band's praises? You've stated above, music nowadays is mostly about business, making money... rightly or wrongly, the quality of the tone and the musicianship of the players has fallen down the order of importance. Remember that playing music is not always for enjoyment but sometimes for paying the bills. You bother to play gigs to pay the bills. Some play for enjoyment. And some people just ride the wave as it's the latest fad they are going through. Talk about your function gigs, your wedding gigs - these are the bread and butter gig of every player who makes a living out of music. Itsonly the cream of the crop players who can play top flight gigs all year round. Even those sessioning in top flight bands will have a function band to keep the money rolling in. Now, these bread and butter gigs, are generally played to people who are looking at having a nights of entertainment, where the sound is to an acceptable level (and that includes tone of the instruments, mix of the band etc) and played to a certain level of competance. 99 times out of a 100, a punter won't know what gear you are playing through, it's value or how incredibly great sounding it is. The truth is, they simply don't know... or care for that matter. In fact, they are more likely to be more impressed by your light show. In my experience, as long as they can hear the vocals, rightly or wrongly, the rest of it is of little importance. Any player who works like this, must recognise this to be the case. Yes, I have what I consider to be nice gear but that would seem to be for my own entertainment rather than the people who are listening to the band it would seem - because experience has told me that most people can't actually tell the difference. Us as bassplayers maybe... but to the greater community out there, I would say absolutely no way. Hell, people can't even tell the difference between a bass and guitar most of the time.... and here we are talking about cabs? It's the same as if somebody comes up to me and says that I'm the best bass player they've ever heard, they are either deluded or know nothing about the bass players that exist in the world. Where their statement may be factually correct, it's hardly the grounds to go and boost my ego and go off running to the nearest gear manufacturer asking for an enwhoresement.

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1343820581' post='1755667'] Exactly! Get the tone right and then do whatever you can to not lose that tone once the complexities of the real world encroach. [/quote] So it can reach the ears of the punters that giveth not a sh1t! And if the punters give not a sh1t, then it really doesn't matter if the sound is uniform around the world/room/whatever. This is coming from real world experience folks. You saw it all here first!

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1343818154' post='1755588'] Those only figure in the low end which don't figure into dispersion issues. [/quote] You missed the tongue in cheek element.

Yawn. Wot? No talk of Helmholtz resonators?