EBS_freak

[quote name='xgsjx' post='1072627' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:28 PM']He did say "Sting can almost pull it off"! [/quote] Ha ha. Sting must have Jaco licked then.

[quote name='xgsjx' post='1072617' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:08 PM']I went to a couple of music shops in Falkirk to see what they had in stock & maybe try out a fretless (not expecting anything really). The first one I visited didn't have much in but said he was expecting a lot of new stock in about a month's time including Fender & some other good brand yet to be known (hopefully will have a fretless in then). The chap was pretty pleasant & I'll pop back to see what he has. The second shop is where I got my Freshman semi from (after traipsing round Glasgow trying everything that was @ £500) about 4 years ago. The shop was full of budget gear (£500 is an expensive item to them). The chap was talkative & pleasant enough, but when I asked if they ever stock fretless basses his response was "No. You wont find many music shops will have one as they can't sell em. They're no good for playing in a band with as the notes are hard to get & are really only for home use, just for your own pleasure". He then went on to tell me how they got one in stock many years ago & he couldn't play it (I don't think he plays bass at all mind) & I'd be best to try ebay or Cash convertors as folk who buy them find out they're no good for in a band & sell them again. I thought "well he works in a music shop, so must know best"! [/quote] Obviously speaks the truth. Steve Lawson and Micheal Manring, obviously couldn't cut it in a band either, hence they went solo...!

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1072543' date='Dec 30 2010, 10:40 AM']Wow.. you're a cynical lot. Maybe a bloke has just pegged it and his family want to sell his stuff?[/quote] I'm kinda feeling like that too... ...last thing you want is a load of potential buyers sending your sarcastic/accusational messages over eBay when you are just trying to clear this lot! I'm tempted to see if I can have a look at the Rhodes though.

Do you get knots in MDF??

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1071863' date='Dec 29 2010, 04:00 PM']Im one of the most people, A perfect Daryl Jones ruined![/quote] What do you mean? That bass was set up to perfection!! (the shim on that was a lovely piece of burr walnut too -makes all the difference )

[quote name='alanbass1' post='1072471' date='Dec 30 2010, 09:26 AM']I agree, I'd prefer the 'telecaster' style headstock any day[/quote] Indeed! Not that I am a fan of this particular P bass shape anyway!

That really surprises me as if you look on a scope at output of the EBS HD and TD amps with the character switch not engaged, you'll see a flat responding amp right up to the ultra highs (where a lot of bass amps don't go) with a shelving in the sub bass area (why bother using your power to amplify those sub frequencies that you can't hear and really punish your speakers?). The combination of EBS amps and speakers can be a bit too much for some... but thats why there is a brightness control on the amps and a tweeter control on the cabs to tame the glassiness. The treble response due to those tweeters are like not much else on the market... they really pop those highs.

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1072329' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:08 AM']Cool, but prefer the DJ by far.[/quote] The DJ remains my fave by far also.

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='1072315' date='Dec 29 2010, 11:58 PM'] US only at the moment - read about them [url="http://www.lakland.com/44-55-AJ.htm"]here[/url].[/quote] Now they are nice... but I don't like the way that the fingerboard passes past the nut and onto the headstock. What's that about?

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='1072320' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:00 AM'] US only at the moment - read about them [url="http://www.lakland.com/44-51.htm"]here[/url].[/quote] Unusual because I think that it works for all their other basses... but that headstock, for me at least, just doesn't work with that body...

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1072311' date='Dec 29 2010, 11:54 PM']Coolest basses are P J MM or Ric in whichever order you like best, Everything else comes in after. People with all the nicest custom stuff still know it to be true and usually have both/all too. They might not play how you like and for me Rics dont play at all but still for cool the [i]traditionals[/i] win everytime FACT [/quote] No T Bird?

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1072293' date='Dec 29 2010, 11:36 PM']I will let you know after tomorrows wedding gig! I might keep a pair of wire cutters in my pocket incase I need to convert it to a 4 string quickly [/quote] You are going to need more than wire cutters. I hear that Stingrays are now loaded with clutch cables...

Did somebody say "cool"?

[quote name='Chris2112' post='1072095' date='Dec 29 2010, 08:14 PM']"This guy has some serious Mark King style chops hidden away, what a player". Instant cool and respect.[/quote] In my experience, the guys that you'd expect to have all the Mark King chops (step forward Jaydee, Status fans)... haven't. (NB - I didn't say "all" Status and Jaydee fans) It's funny how certain instruments make you expect certain things. For example, if you have a swirled Ibanez, you better be able to shred like fcuk... otherwise, you look like a right sad ****.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1072275' date='Dec 29 2010, 11:19 PM']And EBS my Ray5 was a right dog before you excellent setup, Thanks! But it was still as pretty as feck and worth buying for the colour alone [/quote] At least you are on the right number of strings now

[quote name='chris_b' post='1071979' date='Dec 29 2010, 06:34 PM']I can't say, depends on the cabs. How loud do you want to be? I think 1 x 410 (800w - 1000w) or 1 x 212 ((600w - 800w) and a 500w amp would cover most semi-pro situations. If you have to have more then, as long as you use 8 ohm cabs, I'd get another of the same.[/quote] Or two 4ohm cabs if you are using EBS TD65/60, HD350 or Fafner heads... which looks like could be the case.

[quote name='Chris2112' post='1072015' date='Dec 29 2010, 07:12 PM']Yes, I would suspect this is the case. Many people will buy a bass with high action thinking they'll sort it out later, only to find that it buzzes and rattles due to a shoddy fretjob. I am a real stickler for good fretwork on basses; I spend as much time inspecting the instrument visually in a shop as I do playing it! [/quote] That's all well and good but you'll never be able to eyeball a high fret that would cause problems with an uber low action. Unless you physically set the action on the bass before you purchase, you have to buy in confidence that you can get the frets sorted as an a post purchase activity. Have you ever seen anybody in a shop do a setup in a bass to get it to their liking? Many shops would shriek in horror if you went anywhere near the truss rod. Funnily enough, I went shopping for StingrayPete's new Stingray and before collection, the bass got "set up". Well, said "set up" was ridiculously bad... whoever did it put a serious bow in the neck and the truss rod wasn't actually providing any tension in the neck. Wasn't till we got it back and fettled with it that the action was set right and the bass was playing as it should. [quote]I suppose this is caused by the position of the bridge being more centered than on a jazz bass, say.[/quote] Eh? What do you mean by this?

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='1071406' date='Dec 29 2010, 12:37 AM']The only issue i've had with the BC was when Simone (im assuming it was her, it was before the Bald guy died) told me "XL's are guitar strings and this is a bass shop" That made me laugh, as she has been the one person who hasn't been slagged off from that shop.[/quote] I been there too. Was talking to her about Pre EB Stingrays and she had no clue. Instead of fessing up she didn't know, she just fed me a load of BS. Not good from somebody working at V&R eh?

[quote name='dood' post='1071812' date='Dec 29 2010, 03:04 PM']Interesting reading! I like my board to be as flat as possible, very little relief and the action to be as low as possible - but there's a fine line between trading off tone Vs playability. I like a bit of rattle in my tone, but it is controlled. I can get my basses to sound clean when I want them to, but there's nothing like digging in and making the bass bark a bit! I use my custom ramps for both finger style and pick which goes along way to stopping me from playing too hard and choking off notes. I started off subscribing to the Billy Sheehan method: As low as possible then bring the action up again to get rid of the rattles and problems - but it is important to have a really good fret job and set up if you are going to have a crazy low action, because it can lead to all sorts of fret buzzes if you have uneven fret heights. This could well be a reason why a good few basses you try out in shops are set up with such high actions - because the fret jobs are a bit poo![/quote] You subscribe to the same school as thought as me. My necks are pretty much flat radiused and dead straight. The fret job has to be absolutely spot on. One slightly high fret and the whole setup is ruined. Bit of rattle - but nothing you can hear in the mix. Solo playing and my touch is light enough to escape the rattle. Playing a lot of chordal stuff up the neck, the neck has to be flat otherwise the instrument just won't stay in tune properly. Think about it - the frets are spaced on the fretboard perfectly. The second you but relief in the neck, the fret spacing changes. Maybe it's not enough to realise when playing single notes but it certainly is when you are playing multiple notes. The stuff you try in shops rarely have had a fret job- the frets are hammered in and that's it... bass ready to go. You have to be really lucky to find a bass that plays low without doing a fret job first.

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='1071805' date='Dec 29 2010, 02:53 PM']Now that is a result! [/quote] Indeed! I've yet to play one of these - not seen one in any of the shops or anything. Guess I'll have to wait til one of the shows comes around.

I'll throw this in the mix too - [url="http://www.deanguitars.uk.com/basses/pacebass.htm"]http://www.deanguitars.uk.com/basses/pacebass.htm[/url]

Nice. Enjoy! Still haven't tried out that SSS pickup config. Could be quite versatile, I'm guessing. (Or a phasing disaster!?)

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