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There will be some out there celebrating the news...

Shh. That doesn’t fit the argument.

Sang to “There’s a Guy Works Down the Chip Shop Swears He’s Elvis”

Yorkshire Gold is like Rockin' horse doo doo. Something to do with Brexit.

That there Joris Bonson should just gerron wit it.

But but but... blue passports

Try laughing at the small independents of niche products. Im sure they'll be belly laughing along with you. Especially if they get through the pandemic.

Yeah, I think my comment wasn't clear enough - there are still folk out there that believe Belstaff are UK through and through based on the fact that their dad wore it and told them so. Talking of Brooks - https://www.brooksengland.com/en_uk/b17-brooks-lab.html With a design like that, it looks like the guy down the pub told them to cater for all countries and eventualities.

It depends what angle you look at it. A loss of goods available to you from both small and large vendors... or a loss or premises from which to buy a smaller variety of goods, niche goods. It's all very well if you want to buy your run of the mill - but you are otherwise killing your niche and boutique markets.

Oh I totally get it. Belstaff - Stoke-on-Trent's finest motocycle waterproofs (as long as you remember it's really Italian)

Pretty much. And when you actually sit down and ask people where the raw materials for a lot of good comes from, they seem astounded that there are some materials out there that can simply not be found in the UK.

It would be interesting to hear Mark's view on the challenges that Bass Direct currently. The words I saw him utter on Facebook with regard to all of this was - - not the words of a man that seems comfortable with the situation. Hot Rox, Bass Direct, Bass Gallery can't really be grouped in with the rest of the vendors you mention. Their stock levels are much lower, more niche and not of the mainstream brands unlike larger vendors who cover more areas of music - PA, guitars, bass, drums, studio keys... and who's primary business is shifting boxes in large numbers. The type of goods at Bas Direct and Bass Gallery aren't really found many places else within the UK. I don't think we are agreeing in the true sense of the word. Whilst we both agree monopolies are bad, I am of the impression you think there is going to be MORE choice. I think it will be LESS choice. The NHS is an interesting example. It's not really a monopoly in the true sense of the word. Many areas of the NHS are run privately and have either been gifted to the lowest bidder... or friends of friends in high places (but that's probably a different discussion). Having close experiences of some niche treatments in the NHS, not all boroughs are equal!

No doubt that flag was made in China

It depends if the purchases are being made by those that are looking to buy British made. ROAR! Britain!

In which tier is this pub?

So - as you say, remove the manufacturing and jobs... from the UK. Wahey!

Not wrong. We have to look at the net result. Whether the vendor understands what is required or not, or whether they are misinformed or not, what we have here is that the UK can no longer buy from them. That's our loss... especially if other vendors start doing the same.

The deviants are in trouble now... https://winterfetish.com/blogs/news/uk-vat (edit - maybe NSFW...?) - it says UK VAT I just discovered that the UK imagines that my business will be willing to register with the UK and collect taxes for them. I can only chaulk that up to them being silly people. Due to this, as of December 20th I will no longer be able to take orders that have a ship to address in the UK.

You do realise that choice is a good thing? Without choice, you get monopolies.

Have you not been reading the other posts in the thread?

That depends.

It won't (or shouldn't) get through customs as the paperwork will show the tax hasn't been paid correctly.

Where's that? I'll be very surprised if musical instruments are not included...?