EBS_freak

I thought the OP was going to say Covid!

You see, I was kinda with you... but the trouble is, Amazon do it so well. It's next delivery. It's no quibble returns. It can be cheap - and there's a selection of vendors to choose from for some products. Amazon will even gift you vouchers to keep you happy and retain your business. They don't need to bother with coffee - because you can your own choice of coffee from your own house. They don't give your the faux smarm salesmen routine. And during lockdown, they can still carry on the same with no interruption. They adapted adapted far better than any other commerce site to ensure that their logistics were not impacted by Covid for example. I'm not saying it's right or wrong - but you aren't going to convince the millennials to shop any other way. This is part of the change. There's people who want the High Street - because it's always been there in their lifetime. The millennials? Well, they don't care. They live their lives online. Why should shopping be any different? Most millennials won't even realise the issues as long as they can continue to "add to bag", get it the next day - and then review it on Youtube.

Crumbs, we got back our borders. What more do you want? The moon on a stick?!

It's all there. Just read it. Not much wow at all. Mostly all relevant.

Just wanted to be absolutely clear on the rules.... not these fuzzy guidelines that the government seem to....

And other non EU countries that traded with the UK based on the UK being a member of the EU...

Have you literally just by passed the whole of the discussion to write that? It's been explained why buying British isn't as easy as just buying British. York Notes - Britain hasn't really got a wealth of raw materials and isn't a power house when it comes to manufacturing.

In the link in page 1. But yeah, that’s one of the changes.

Not quite. But one of the main issues is that there has no time to code a system to prepare for EU exit and for all interconnecting EU services to to integrate with the CDS system (Customs Declaration Service).

There will be some out there celebrating the news...

Shh. That doesn’t fit the argument.

Sang to “There’s a Guy Works Down the Chip Shop Swears He’s Elvis”

Yorkshire Gold is like Rockin' horse doo doo. Something to do with Brexit.

That there Joris Bonson should just gerron wit it.

But but but... blue passports

Try laughing at the small independents of niche products. Im sure they'll be belly laughing along with you. Especially if they get through the pandemic.

Yeah, I think my comment wasn't clear enough - there are still folk out there that believe Belstaff are UK through and through based on the fact that their dad wore it and told them so. Talking of Brooks - https://www.brooksengland.com/en_uk/b17-brooks-lab.html With a design like that, it looks like the guy down the pub told them to cater for all countries and eventualities.

It depends what angle you look at it. A loss of goods available to you from both small and large vendors... or a loss or premises from which to buy a smaller variety of goods, niche goods. It's all very well if you want to buy your run of the mill - but you are otherwise killing your niche and boutique markets.

Oh I totally get it. Belstaff - Stoke-on-Trent's finest motocycle waterproofs (as long as you remember it's really Italian)

Pretty much. And when you actually sit down and ask people where the raw materials for a lot of good comes from, they seem astounded that there are some materials out there that can simply not be found in the UK.

It would be interesting to hear Mark's view on the challenges that Bass Direct currently. The words I saw him utter on Facebook with regard to all of this was - - not the words of a man that seems comfortable with the situation. Hot Rox, Bass Direct, Bass Gallery can't really be grouped in with the rest of the vendors you mention. Their stock levels are much lower, more niche and not of the mainstream brands unlike larger vendors who cover more areas of music - PA, guitars, bass, drums, studio keys... and who's primary business is shifting boxes in large numbers. The type of goods at Bas Direct and Bass Gallery aren't really found many places else within the UK. I don't think we are agreeing in the true sense of the word. Whilst we both agree monopolies are bad, I am of the impression you think there is going to be MORE choice. I think it will be LESS choice. The NHS is an interesting example. It's not really a monopoly in the true sense of the word. Many areas of the NHS are run privately and have either been gifted to the lowest bidder... or friends of friends in high places (but that's probably a different discussion). Having close experiences of some niche treatments in the NHS, not all boroughs are equal!

No doubt that flag was made in China

It depends if the purchases are being made by those that are looking to buy British made. ROAR! Britain!

In which tier is this pub?

So - as you say, remove the manufacturing and jobs... from the UK. Wahey!