EBS_freak

Lock down recordings are the thing right now... so... here we go.

Ha! I recognise that bass. Anyway... https://www.bowfinishing.co.uk They would have done the original finish.

It’s the cumulative latency of both the interface and the wireless unit that is getting you. A cheap USB interface is found to be introducing 7 or 8 ms of latency... so as soon as you go over 10ms, as you notice, things start to go a little wrong...

Indeed. That’s the idea!

Aye. Disruptive dinosaurs. Doesn't really give me any incentive to continue.

But that is something that is not relevant to FRFR explicitly. There are systems that do that - but they aren’t exactly perfect, especially because an empty room doesn’t respond the same way to a room with people in. Pink noosing a room with people in is pretty antisocial. That’s personal opinion. Plenty of people do like modellers. Plenty of people like mic pres into a FRFR cab. In a blind test, most people can’t tell the difference between a traditional or modelled setup. Those that proclaim that they can are usually kidding themselves. Ok. I’m not sure what you are asking or trying to achieve in this thread then...? If you are used to a desk into headphones, assuming that your headphones are fairly flat (or reference) and not a set with some crazy baked in response, then a channel strip (eg no modeller) into a FRFR cab would make perfect sense.

There is. It’s called tuning your setup to the room and is what a 31 band is used for. What you describe however, is the same for FRFR and traditional setups... so it’s a moot point. Most digital amplifiers will HPF at circa 40hz out the box anyway. As for the higher content, well, if you are using something like a modeller, all that EQing will be done in the model. If you aren’t using a modeller, then yes, your reasoning with regard to high end detail is right - if that is what you are looking for. What preamp or modeller you choose is up to you. Not every modeller does this - and given the amount of time purists out there, if this truly was the case (it isn’t) then the sales figures of these systems would fall in line with that argument (they don’t) We can’t hold the designers responsible for shortfalls if the end user is not using the systems in the manner for which they are intended.

Lets get it started then!

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3. Backline replacement (or can we get smarter?)

2. Preamps and Modellers

1. FRFR OK, so you are here probably because you are interested in finding out more about FRFR or have decided to purchase something FRFR and are looking for additional information. 1.1 WHAT IS FRFR? OK, so what does this acronym FRFR actually stand for? Well, that's simple - Full Range Flat Response. And in layman's terms? It's a system that is designed to reproduce audio from sub bass through to piercing highs - that's the Full Range bit... There are no sound characteristics, or eq, introduced into the equation. In other words, it's as neutral and faithful in the reproduction of audio - that's the flat response bit. Unlike traditional guitar and bass power amps and cabs (that tend to have their own sound signature), they are designed to be characterless - a blank canvas if you will.

@Frank Blank suggested that a FRFR thread akin to the IEM one (found at https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/389429-the-iem-bible-thread/) So I'm currently setting up a thread and empty posts to start authoring... so it's currently very much a work in progress so standby...! WELCOME TO THE FRFR BIBLE! - a beginner's guide to FRFR. After another recommendation, I decided that I would start a new thread that is born out of the multitude of FRFR posts across the site. Those threads contains a whole wealth of information – however, over time it has naturally become quite fragmented. A lot of information may have been superseded and of course, recommendations change. This thread, I'll summarise everything and try and keep all the important stuff in the first few posts of the thread. I'll do a few posts on FRFR, speakers, hardware, etc.. and build it up from there and keep chopping and changing stuff in the main posts as it happens - SO PLEASE DON'T QUOTE THE MAIN POSTS AS THE INFORMATION MAY GET CHANGED AND REFINED OVER TIME - thanks What I’ll do, is try and keep the opening posts updated with all the relevant bits and try and tie in any bits of interest. This should make it easier for people looking to quickly digest information around FRFR than reading all the other thread and no doubt bailing out before getting what they need out of it. I'll try and keep it at a fairly high level to make things easy to consume for the complete starter... so let me know if things aren't clear and I can refine them. Happy for contributors! Just PM content that you may deem suitable and I'll update as appropriate (I'm not precious about who writes this stuff) So, without further ado... SECTIONS 1. FRFR (https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/418551-the-frfr-bible-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4079162) 2. Preamps and Modellers (https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/418551-the-frfr-bible-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4079163) 2. Backline replacement (or can we get smarter?) (https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/418551-the-frfr-bible-thread/?do=findComment&comment=4079164)

Like this - Happy to start one/help with content for FRFR if people game?

Added in the recommendation for KZ AS12 (6 balanced armature per side design with improved low end) and the AS16 (8 balanced armature per side design) to test out. Certainly a new level in gateway drug to some customs. @Phil Starr - you may find the latter interesting, they have a less prominent smiley face signature to them.

And not one a GB

Good work!

Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go. Insanely nice playing. Every time I play it/hear it, I'm like, dayum... I wish I had come up with some of these lines.

I don’t buy that their DSP doesn’t flatten response. Did you speak to RCF in the UK (who just distribute?) The reason I say that is look at this video - 20 mins onwards where the SMAART test happens. That is super super flat for a box that apparently has no DSP flattening the response.

Yeah, there's a lot of unmanned services out there... and the automailers are still happening. I got a great one a few days ago letting me know about last minute get away holidays.

Cant argue with that!

I was just writing a response to this thread and saw this pop up and this is exactly what I was going to say. The active/passive switch should switch the audio path and kill the battery - you would have thought...?

You do realise that you are in a GB thread, as in Goodfellow basses - as opposed to an Ibanez GB thread?

Thought I'd post the full post so people can see the details of the ticket extension... Ladies & Gentleman, it is with great regret that we have to announce that The UK Bass Guitar Show will be postponed to a later date. With the ongoing and present concerns of COVID-19, we have to put our guests, exhibitors, artists and team's health and safety first following further announcements this evening. New dates for The UK Bass Guitar Show are presently being discussed and will be announced shortly. We are pleased to announce we have had unanimous support from our exhibitors with the move to alternative dates, along with several of our artists reaching out with support for when the situation passes, with the desire to return and share their love for all things bass with you. For those that have purchased tickets, of course we are very happy to extend these to the new dates when announced, hoping that you will join us once again. We have been overwhelmed with support from our confirmed exhibitors, artists and some of our guests that have shared kind words of support and encouragement whilst we have been navigating these unprecedented times. Should any of our guests have any further questions, please feel free to contact us at [email protected] www.theukbassguitarshow.com