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Ok, I have been down there for a chat, we can have if wanted a sunday afternoon in say feb. ( or any time) food wise they can do a set price buffet or better still you can just order food from a menu and just pay for what you order, Now i dont know how this works so please bear with me... 1) is it just for bass chatters ? ( in which case there may be a fee for the room if not many in.) or 2) can this be open to public ticket sales, ? in which case they will let us have the room free if its akined to a charity. now i have used the room a few times free raising cash for Backford hospital which is a hospital for the terminally ill, hospice of the good shepherd, so very worthwhile, [url="http://www.hospiceofthegoodshepherd.com/who-we-are-chester-hospice/"]http://www.hospiceof...hester-hospice/[/url] so if it is "2" then there are some local bass luthers, and also the ones you all know could get involved setting up stalls maybe, and i know one or two "very well known" bass players that might be willing to give us a chat, As said i dont know how these things work, and i know its not Manchester, but anyway its an option for a start.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1478033414' post='3166275'] What does the MU have to say on the subject..? [/quote] Could not find alot about this. from what i have read from ambients link to prs [url="http://www.prsformusic.com/aboutus/FAQs/copyrightfaqs/Pages/default.aspx"]http://www.prsformus...es/default.aspx[/url] What happens to your rights when you become a PRS for Music member? When joining as a [i]PRS member [/i]your rights are transferred to us. These are:[list] [*]to perform the music in the public, such as concerts, pubs and shops [*]to communicate the music to the public, via broadcast, on demand services, internet services, satellite and cable transmissions and more. [/list] Are they just the same as what sentric are doing? [url="http://www.sentricmusic.com/whatwedo"]http://www.sentricmusic.com/whatwedo[/url] and will collect a % for services offered ? sorry this is all new to me so if joining sentric would i be handing over the rights to my music so they can collect any fees for use and just take their cut. ( they do state you are not tied to them by contract and can opt out and go to another publisher with 28 days notice. so 20% of collected ( if any) i would not know if thats good or bad ? I will have a scoot about see what other sites offer.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1478031832' post='3166244'] This many be a reasonable starting point, maybe..? [url="http://www.musiciansunion.org.uk/Home/Advice/Your-Career/Legal/Copyright-and-Performers-Rights-FAQs"]Musician's Union: Copyright and other FAQ's ...[/url] I don't think you'd have to pay a percentage to any organisation for dealing with this (one doesn't in France, at least; the UK may be [s]behind the times[/s] different in this...). [/quote] Merci,, très utile juste ce dont j'avais besoin Cheers dad that was very helpfull, straight to the points without all the fodder. interesting bits.... "Unlike some countries, such as the USA where copyright requires registration to gain full protection (see [b][url="http://copyright.gov/"]copyright.gov[/url][/b]), in the UK, copyright in a work comes into existence when the work is created. However, since there is no copyright in an idea, the Act spells out that musical works, literary works and dramatic works only come into existence as works capable of copyright protection once the work has been recorded in writing or otherwise. Therefore, music (musical works) and lyrics (literary works) only acquire copyright once written down, or recorded on tape or disc, or into a computer, etc, and do not have copyright while only in your head. Rather strangely, this means that if you improvise a new musical work with your band on stage and someone in the audience bootlegs you, the new work gains copyright protection only because of the bootleg recording. If it was not bootlegged, the new work would have no copyright protection." [quote name='ambient' timestamp='1478031970' post='3166247'] [url="http://www.prsformusic.com/aboutus/FAQs/copyrightfaqs/Pages/default.aspx"]http://www.prsformus...es/default.aspx[/url] [/quote] Cheers Ambient, yea that confirms what dad sent, thanks ok thats sorts copyright out, ( i think ) what about the next stage royalties and the collection of, is 20% good for this ?

Hi all i know this subject has been touched on before, and i have back read over old threads, I just want to get uptated, i have about 2 or 3 cds worth of original tracks which we want to copyright, as we have had a few members in the band now who have been and gone, ( with our tracks as mp3, ) i write the songs with the singer and we record and produce them, I have been told we should get them copyrighted. can anyone offer good advice on where to go and pit falls. also is music is copyrighted at time of production of the tracks?, (proof being owner of the original stem files ? (all played by me, and singer)). i have just been directed to a site called sentric music "to do it all with ease" ?. [url="http://www.sentricmusic.com/whatwedo"]http://www.sentricmusic.com/whatwedo[/url] the site offers us to copyright our tracks, and will collect royalties and put them into an account. for this they charge 20% of the taking of any royalties, is this good ? are there any other sites or options we are thinking of releasing 3 ep cds and a 12 track cd soon available for downloads as well. so just want everything right before we get to that stage. Thanks for any help here edit.. oh.. is putting your tracks on soundcloud classed as good enough, as they would be time stamped at time of upload ?

[quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1477949985' post='3165530'] I still end up referring to that place as the Shell Club ! Are Sundays a good time for the room there ? if so, then I guess we just need an idea of costs and hang a date out to see who can make it . I am not sure a full PA is needed , but its a great offer, I suppose it depends on what the objectives of the attendees is , if it is just a touchy feely mess around on as much kit as you can , then just a bit of space and a few hours is probably all thats required . [/quote] Yep, me too, I had to look up the new name as I keep forgetting it, will always be the shell club in my mind. Sunday's, I will ask about tomorow, The pa idea was good to go in case someone had an idea of use, or knew someone who wanted to give a talk, Keep you posted,

Regarding a place to go ..... there is an option by me, I know its not Manchester, but just as an option incase someone wants to do one in the area. its in ellesmere port, so is central for wirral manchester Chester North wales Liverpool. Wrexham Northwhich its just off the M53 by cheshire oaks ( very easy to get too) Its got a big room with good stage, dance floor there is a divided seating area and a bar and i think if asked they can put on food to order big car park, and i think i may be able to get it for not alot of cash ( he might even let us use it free if we can get a fair few in with food) its at the Whitby sports and social club [url="http://www.whitbyclub.com/"]http://www.whitbyclub.com/[/url] I could ask if someone else wanted to take up the organisation side ? i could also help out by setting up a quality pa, if a band wanted to host to do bassey thingys , (not forgetting its a bass bash.) and ideas, like.. could we do a reverb pedal and a wah pedal shoot out ? if everyone brings theirs we could try them. I dont really know what else to suggest to help get it going.

[quote name='TrevorR' timestamp='1476572670' post='3155395'] Might be the standard Wal Mk 1 Matt lacquer which is very thin and allows the grain to show through a bit. Very unusual, quite unlike a poly or nitro-cellulose gloss finish. As I recall it was melamine based. Of course, without looking it's difficult to tell and in that transitional phase who knows what Ian and Pete were trying out. Still, the level of work required in a shellac finish does make it seem an unlikely choice. Never know, though. [/quote] Hi trev prob pending how much time they had on their hands at the time, mine is 82 and is definitely wax polished finished, i remember pete talking about it when i had another refinished, if i had another one made i would go for body stripes and a hand finish

[quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1477347867' post='3161691'] When you copy / paste the YT link , take out the letter 'S' from the https bit and ipsofacto, you will get the vid showing [/quote] cheers fleebag al try that. [quote name='WalMan' timestamp='1477349705' post='3161705'] Funny that as that's pretty much where I'm at as well Love my Wal as it is a joy, so easy to play and sits so well in a mix. She's semi retired now after 35 years of hard graft with me for the L2500's, but still comes out to play for the occasional prog gig and rather more regular & laid back originals band. It'll be the last bass to leave me. [/quote] its funny how many wal players tend to also go for the G&L, when i was teaching bass some ( a few of them are on here) who also have wal basses also have and mainly use G&L, one who had a few wals said due to the places he plays, he was too scared to take them out, so after trying a few basses he ended up like you with a very nice L2500. and loves it,.

[quote name='davegriffiths91' timestamp='1477237063' post='3160758'] I'm tempted by this. I literally live around the corner! [/quote] Hi dave, they are supporting craig charles doing his funk dj show at the live rooms should be good,

hi specto, Wal-elitism (Walism)..... welllll, i did not want to say so .... but yea, i like to think so Joking aside, i use my G&L more than my wal now, been using mine for 30 years and the poor thing has done it all without a single moan, when i say done it all, to put that into perspective, its on its 3rd wal case, its done ALOT, so now its sort of retired, I did have a problem replacing it, the only thing i found ( and i have alot of basses to choose from) is a G&L L2000 the heavy older ones. (But esp the E series with mk 1 pre amp) has not got the tone scope of the wal but has the power and feels right. Edit.. ( if any one has an E series G&L (fretless or natural necked ) please get intouch, cheers)

Anyone going to watch Smoove and Turrell Chester 5th nov ? [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3Pe1eob5A"]https://www.youtube....h?v=J-3Pe1eob5A[/url]

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1455384817' post='2978694'] I've never looked cool in my life!! Apart from that, I've been through my very loud shirt phase and now I'm into black; black jeans from M&S and black polo shirts from Primark. [/quote] cool, but you have to have the white levi jacket as well im going for white jeans black polo/ or t shirt and white levi jacket and cool 60s chelsea boots , [attachment=230588:co2.jpeg] Bass gear, my girlfriend got me one of those tshirts from asda years ago wth the monkey playng a double bass.......... But,,,, it was a valentine's tshirt and the monkey had a rose in his mouth .. so i got a sharpie and coloured it in so you can't see it, i like it now.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1477218475' post='3160578'] We are told (with some vehemence...) in another topic, that, with judicious EQ from a Good PA System, one may get a more-than-adequate bass drum sound from a humble biscuit tin (this may be slight exaggeration...), but even a modest drum can become great through FOH just by fx. Would this not make redundant the need for a Wal to get 'that' sound, as, presumably, it could be 'dialled in' with modern technology..? I'm not convinced, myself, but some would argue the case, I think. [/quote] hi dad, you not being convinced is right, in this case the old saying is 100% true.. sh!t in, sh!t out. The source has to be good. There are some sounds a wal can get that no other bass on the planet can get. here is one if your into dub reggae or ragga, pick up pot to neck pick up only neck tone to "0" pot pulled out vol pot 10 also pulled out for pick attack. that sound is the lowest bass sound i have ever heard but still has a high click to it, but still tight sounding, you wont find that on any other bass. wal players will know what i mean big fat and lush,

[quote name='TrevorR' timestamp='1477173176' post='3160398'] Alan Spenner... what a bass genius! Mind you, Gary Tibbs wasn't to shabby on his Wal nor was Johnny Gus on a Wal bass built by Wal before he built Wal basses... Thoroughly Waltastic band, Roxy! [/quote] He was, i think if there was ever a single note that you could say thats a wal "al name that in one" that 1 note in avalon just pops right out at you

[quote name='TrevorR' timestamp='1477172626' post='3160394'] Those deserve a proper embed... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2V-VzQ8kV0[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pv-Iokvimc[/media] [/quote] they do, i dont know why my links come up as lines?. every time i hear him i just want to play along, just for that tone.

If you want a bass to punch through the mix tight and punchy a wal is as good as it gets. here is the late [u]great [/u]"Alan Spenner" showing how to punch through a mix, you gotta love his playing....enjoy [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2V-VzQ8kV0"]https://www.youtube....h?v=o2V-VzQ8kV0[/url] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pv-Iokvimc"]https://www.youtube....h?v=1pv-Iokvimc[/url]

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1477061553' post='3159627'] Yes, lovely tone and excellent playing. David Paton on a defretted Musicman. I love how the line develops and builds. One of my favourite all time albums as well. I still have my Vinyl copy upstairs somewhere. Apart from stunning playing from Rocco and David Garibald on the album, the Brass and Wind Harmonizing is top dollar. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlLVRGb7g7Q&index=3&list=PLG2na-qjU_4qSht7FO2LYmIk9ZWjuNLv8[/media] Oh go on then. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7T5rVp6hWA&index=5&list=PLG2na-qjU_4qSht7FO2LYmIk9ZWjuNLv8[/media] [/quote] Ah you have good taste, loads of fantastic moments on that Lp, i love that seamless change in squib cakes just before the hammond solo where it goes to hammond bass pedals, ( about from 4:10 of your clip) took me ages to learn that before i realised it was chester thompson. real bass comes back in about 6:50. i was in a funk band years ago that did that track and when it came to that bit i had to learn it as the key player could not do it, there is an awkward little bit in it i found tasking to get right.from about 5:15 on, again ... timing ! "just when we start making it" has one of the best changes in feel i have ever heard, the bit about 4:44 after the drum roll where it goes into swing, rocco's playing there is fantastic, he manages to keep the swing feel but also keep his signiture feel by putting in them quad note runs, when i play swing i cant help but do this now, i just cant stop doin it also, have you ever tried to get that feel on " can't you see " the timing in the gaps in his playing all the way through it, masterfull. i got the chop always reminds me of the jackson 5, .... id better stop now, al be here all day.

Has to be the one that made me pick up the bass in the first place 35 years ago, and the one i still aspire to, Squib cakes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvJH0x1CTho a track on my all time fave album Tower of Power Back to oakland, my daughter has just found a mint copy for my birthday, iv now got the old one framed in the studio. all the Inspiration i will ever need is contained right there. And cus i dont want to leave it out, "For once in my life" i dont think i will ever come up with a line as beautiful as that.

[quote name='pineweasel' timestamp='1476376027' post='3153803'] Interesting reading regarding the "crossover" era. Here's my example, PB1805, which has a solid body of, I think, mahogany, and inlaid stripes on the front and back. I've never seen another Wal quite like it [attachment=229846:Wal.jpg] [/quote] Wow they are all coming out now, noticed yours has the pro2E jack casting, does it have the earth lift flip switch on it ? is it also french polished ? I think if i had one made it would be a MK1 and would have to have the stripes on the body, thats Fab. Should start a PB porn thread,

[quote name='deksawyer' timestamp='1476295075' post='3153162'] No, the back is as per pic below. I know Pete was experimenting with laminates back around the time this was made with a few different ideas kicking around, there's a couple on the Wal database - yours is likely there? With regards to the finish, I don't think it's lacquered, as it's not too shiny - a lot of the sheen, especially on the front appears to have faded in the near 37 years it's been around. This is P.B 1848. Did yours have a switch on the Vol control? Basking in the sunlight [/quote] Pb 1848, only 11 away im not sure if the alleged 6, were in the format of body stripes on front and back as after a quick check pb1633 was the same, and the earlyst one on the database, so looking like more than 6 ( the number 6 came from notes from Mick Cookson about pb1859) Yes there are a few of mine on that database including 1859. yes Wal and pete were experimenting with all sorts about that time as i also had a bass pete called the "TUFA" a one off during that time they were toying with laminate tops this being one of the ones done to test the stresses and strains of the construction, very nice playing bass with the pro neck which i think had the two pegs you could see at the end of the head stock where the two carbon strips under the fretboard terminated, Has yours got these ? when i took it to him to be refinished he was gobsmacked it was still around, i cant remember why he called it " tufa" im sure he said tufa wood top but cant find any wood calld tufa, only volcanic rock, something to do with the weight of the dam thing maybe . yes pb1859 had a battery off switch on the vol pot, its looking then yours is hand french polished the same, and not refinished ( thank god), As you prob already know Wal and pete kept a book with all sorts of info in ( his wal Bible) im not sure but im guessing paul will have this now, if you contact paul he wil have the right info on your bass, including who originally purchased it and finish. Very nice to see it, made my day when i saw it,

yep, they are still going strong, did a gig with them a couple of months ago ( backing) in frodsham out door fest, sound as good as ever, If you get the chance try and catch them live, they also do some nice versions of songs worth catching. well done lads keep going.

[quote name='deksawyer' timestamp='1476199967' post='3152235'] I have a 1980 Custom, and it does sound great - it sounds very compressed on the bridge pickup fully on with a very nice attack/bite to all the strings - I rarely use the neck pickup although I sometimes blend a wee bit in to add a bit of girth. No other bass sounds like it, although a Stingray can sound close (ish) in my opinion, but is a bit more aggressive. My Stingray (and my RAY34 for that matter) feel nicer to play as well, and the weight is not so bad with a neoprene Mega strap. I'm gonna have a local builder make me a fretless neck sometime... D. oh, and here it is.. [/quote] Now that is nice and interesting, .... wal never made alot of basses with multi body cent lines, and definitaly not with twin ( triple really) sandwich layers between the core and top, each side. ?? i think he made about 6 brothers, yours if the same is only the 3rd one i have seen. this looks like a LH version of my old one which i had for a while and sold to mike G, USA Think he still has it. which was the Last Pro bass made number PB1859, is the back the same as this ??? [url="http://www4.cs.fau.de/~koesters/Privat/Wal/walspec.html"]http://www4.cs.fau.d...al/walspec.html[/url] (pics taken by me) [attachment=229721:PB1859.jpg] [attachment=229722:PB1859-2.jpg] Edit,,, sorry another question, Mine and the other one i have seen were both hand waxed french polished and not lacquered, (as is the one i still have now). when pete refinished PB1859 for me he did say the others were hand polished. Is yours ?

[quote name='Agwin' timestamp='1476118287' post='3151494'] Certificate printed and on the fridge - thanks Dad [/quote] Well done agwin, and quite right as well, it was well played. And hay..... al be baaak... (done in my naff terminator type voice) with me new strings

great bass playing paul, good to hear a stingray with the treble backed off before it gets to clicky, i liked both versions of the the song, but can see the disco version being more appealing for radio use and the like. the quality of the video and editing on the youtube clip, looks top draw, who did that ? hats off to who ever did that. As big red says, cant wait to hear the unmastered version to hear what was done for the money, what about a sound cloud link when voting is over? Great stuff, hope it does well, voted and fingers crossed.

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1475762658' post='3148564'] It appears that there is a petition to stop folks moving into areas adjacent to known music venues and then complaining about the noise until the venue is closed down, depriving both venue workers and bands of employment. As the MU say, "Keep music live." [url="https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/168135"]https://petition.par...etitions/168135[/url] [/quote] good call ez, 7940 is me, need at least another 2060 give it up yall, a good cause.