OliverBlackman

Waiting time depends on demand - They are very highly regarded but if they keep putting the price up demand may fall. Price - cost of parts, rent, salary’s are likely to all increase year on year. More so right now if they’re importing any parts from Europe. I think the wait time on my Overwater was 9-12 months. I think it took them around a month from picking the woods to delivery. It gave me time to change certain details though.

Now I’ve got alleva copollo GAS 🤩

Christ what a thread! Prices are down to simple business, Fenders overheads won’t be nearly as much as Alleva Copollos or whatever it is called. Some people clearly feel that it is superior product to a fender otherwise Jimmy wouldn’t have a business. Same as Sadowsky ect. A lot of players are used to Fender shapes and therefore they are popular. I like overwater J series, so I bought one. I also like Sire which is a lot cheeper. Does that make me regret the Overwater? No.

Hey bilbo, did you improve your reading through a book or just transcribing a lot? I transcribe quite a bit but wouldn’t say I can read through a transcription without slowing it down or breaking it into sections and learning it a part at a time. I used to have a tutor who could sight read the James jamerson book!

He’s got enough money. Charge him £10 to enter a draw 😂

Yep I’m in. Lost one of my Grolsch ones

I think his personal situation is irrelevant. He offers a product, that product wasn’t what it should be and therefore he needs to swiftly rectify that for the customer. The fact he hasn’t is his own failure. It sounds like he doesn’t have any input in the actual build of the basses so he should be making sure that business runs smoothly. Whether this thread is like something on talkbass or not, it is important that users share their experiences to help others. I do hope potential buyers are put off and other builders who care more about their product/ customers are rewarded.

Doesn’t a company have to within a certain time period in European law if a product is damaged?

Please just return it and contact overwater basses. You won’t have any issues there.

Top 1% earners have 44% of the worlds wealth. £22k is probably a days work for some. In return they get a (likely) fantastic instrument that could be a great investment, but also an interesting point of topic. “This bass only has two knobs!”

I would send this back and get a bass from somewhere else. When I ordered my Overwater there was communication at every stage and I had a good discussion before the build on the options I would like with no time pressures. Oh and Chris May is great to deal with.

Bridge bits on flame maple - Overwater 2017

That is ideal. I hated long travel, having to wait around for hours, finding somewhere to eat in the middle of nowhere. Enjoyed playing, especially with the last band, but not worth the agro or when I was working all week too. My last gig was NYE 2018/19 and I’ve just enjoyed learning music for myself since.

A lot of gospel is played on 5/6 and often musicals are written for 5 string. It just gives more options to the player/ composer and is widely available now. If you follow the lee sklar vids on YT he uses his 5 string Dingwalls a fair bit too.

https://m.thomann.de/gb/marcus_miller_v5_alder_4_ts.htm Not out yet but yes VVT. I’m tempted myself.

Isn’t the point that the bad stuff can be fixed with parts? My MIM actually came stocked as new with American standard PUs and they were still too timid.

I got a MIM P bass for my 16th birthday. I upgraded the P/Us a long while ago but since I've had it i've been through at least 10 other basses but I've still got and use the P bass daily. Oh, and I got the Gallery to do a fret dress which made a big difference and was pretty cheap. It's fairly light, sounds beefy, stays in tune and plays well. Simple.

I know all about being sozzled 😂

Hey bilbo, the links not working. I can’t see anything on Laurence’s Facebook, where was it advertised?

How weird, I found the biggest difference with tone open (clip one) and struggled more with the tone closed. To my ears there is more bottom end to the 71 with the bite, and I find with modern passive basses when you add bite (tone) it often takes out some of the depth. I don't own a vintage fender to compare it to but I do have a MIM p bass with the same strings (about a month old) and Lindy Fralin PU's and I would say the tone (especially open) is not far off the Moollon which surprised me. Obviously the Moollon will be a superior instrument in every other way.

Annoyingly (or thankfully) the bass I want is currently way out of my price range which forces we to be happy with what I’ve got.

Funky Hofner

If I had the money I’d currently be on route to Blyth.

If you want a wal I would just save and wait for a Wal to show up in your price range. The pro series are a bit cheaper.