OliverBlackman

[quote name='norvegicusbass' timestamp='1342787674' post='1740928'] Yeah with you there. His lessons have helped me enormously really natural teacher and makes things a lot easier [/quote] I watched a few of these but they were all just songs? Does he teach theory or technique in between explaining the song?

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go to a dealer like guitar guitar? They might be able to help, could be worth a phone call

I have been looking through more videos and I have come to the conclusion that at the moment it must be really difficult for beginners to learn using YouTube alone, as I think from my research that many are. Many of the "beginners" videos seem to have been filmed by beginners themselves, and there tends to be holes in and a lack of decent explanations of what they're doing and their use of terminology, so I've struggled in finding videos that I would recommend. I know lots of people are big fans of Scott Devines lessons and they are very well put together. But I am left wondering how many of those are beginners, as I've found with his beginners lessons he often leaves things out that I think needs to be mentioned, or mentions something that is away from the topic and could confuse students. This seems to be a common theme amongst the lessons produced by working players. Another problem I have with some the services on offer at the moment is that they are subscription based. As a student I can't afford the expenses of becoming a member, and I'm sure a beginner wouldn't want to commit for six months incase it turns out its not for them. Why are there not cheaper options? This is a bit of a rant because having only just looked into this I'm surprised at how lacking what I'm seeing is.

[quote name='deanoet' timestamp='1342635411' post='1738462'] Thanks for that Wouldnt G be the 4th fret on the D string? G# is 5th? Unless i am missing something with the music alphabet. I knew you could play same notes in several different areas. Like U2 WIth or without you Can be played a lot more condensed, but on the original he slides between notes on one string (repeating what i have read) It is all starting to slot into place, just as they say, time and practise. [/quote] I forgot F#!!!!! My apologies. G is the 5th fret on the D string! When I've finished this small collection of vids, I'll PM the link to you. Should help a lot

[quote name='LiamPodmore' timestamp='1342622562' post='1738046'] It's still working with tab (And standard notation) so there's still room for errors, but Guitar Pro, Tab Pro, etc... allow you to do this to an extent. It plays through the tab for you, so you can cut out any instruments you want, or just make them a little lower or the bass higher, etc.. along with pitch-correct tempo changes, looping certain sections, speed-increasing looping and more. The MT9 Music Format will do everything you want, but it isn't really around anywhere unfortunately, life would be a lot better if it was though. Liam [/quote] Yes it does do this but the sounds are horrible and I found it very uninspiring when I used to use Guitar Pro before I learnt TABs are sin haha. Unfortunately to take the instruments out you would need the original tracks from the recordings. Rerecording it for commercial use would be illegal.

What would be cool for you to do, is while you play the riff to Seven nation army, instead of saying the fret numbers, say E, E, G, E, D, C, B (also its easier to play the G on the 5th fret of the D string instead of the 10th of the A string. You probably know that but just thought I'd say in case. The F1 theme is Fleetwood Mac, the chain (again just in case you didn't know) and starts at 3.04 on this video. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcawnRIyeok"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcawnRIyeok[/url] Again it would be good to say the notes, so A, A, B, C, B, A, G, A, B, E If you learn the music alphabet is A, A#, B, C, C#, D, D#, E, F, G, G# then learn that the open strings on your bass are E, A, D, G, then you can just move along one fret at a time, working out the notes. Rather than trying to remember all the notes, at first just try remembering the notes for the songs/ riffs you play. It may seem like unnecessary work but is completely worth it in the end.

[quote name='deanoet' timestamp='1342612967' post='1737842'] As a music beginner I tend to use YouTube to allow me to just hear the bassline being played, then I use a tab site to get the notes played. Making sure to filter out the poor tabs / lessons As a total beginner to music my pet hate is people showing you a nice beginner scale / song, playing it full speed, then slowly and then launching into "Okay, start on G#" G what? where is that? "Then go to a C" Wait a min i havent found G# yet :-) [/quote] Thanks for your post, this is exactly what I want to know! I did the same as you (listening to the music and then looking at TAB to see how close/ correct I was/ wasn't. I would listen to the original song and try to work it out for yourself, the reason I say this, rather than using bass covers on YouTube, is whats on YouTube is the up-loaders idea of what it is, not necessarily what it really is. If I had uploaded videos when I was 16/17 they would probably have been wrong like so many out there are. But getting back to my point, if you listen to the song, try as best you can to work it out, then look at TAB or YouTube covers to see how close you are to other peoples opinion of it. This will help you trust your ear. Then when you can trust your ear, you can stop using TAB/ YT. But one way to make your ear stronger is by learning scales/ arpeggios as these are what basslines are made up of, theres no secret, its just scales played with variations. Learning these will get your ear recognising where the notes are in a shape, which helps you pick things up by ear quicker. The quicker you can do it, the more songs you can learn, the better you will become. So a few months of boring scales is totally worth it in the long run! Regarding your pet hate that is a very valid point. Most of these on lines tutors presume you already know the notes on the fretboard, its a mistake I made to start off with private tuition. My advice is to learn the notes using exercises you find on videos and scales! But pause and rewind the video, I know its not as good because it restricts the flow of the lesson but with learning bass repetition is everything! I'm still doing tedious exercises really slowly after 10 years of playing. I will be posting a list of what I would say is "good" content at the end of the week, which will all be favourites on my YT channel so easy to find and sort through. Hope this helps people, Ollie

[quote name='surfinbernard' timestamp='1342607264' post='1737661'] There is a very good bespectacled German guy who does great lessons for non-beginners (he does have some beginner lessons but I'm not sure how 'beginner' they are) which I sometimes have a look at: But when I started learning bass it was before the time of Youtube lessons, not by much, but by the time I discovered Youtube I was past the basics. I learned by playing along to Hendrix etc. but I was fortunate to have a trained ear to start with as bass was not my first instrument. I also had a very boring but effective boom about technique which got me off to a good start. There is such a lot of variety on Youtube and some lessons are great while others are worse than useless. I go on there for a few different instruments as well as reviews etc and find I might have to click on a few before finding a good one but they are on there. [/quote] I have used Marlowe myself, some very good stuff there and he's clearly a good player. I haven't seen any really basic stuff from him but I will browse his YT channel soon. Thanks for the post [quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1342607734' post='1737681'] i posted that one because it is the complete piece - if you look on his youtube channel you will find the tutorial for it and other stuff [/quote] Ahhh my bad! I will check his channel later to. Thanks for posting!

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1342606338' post='1737629'] They vary a LOT! Some are very good though and they are a useful resource. Some are clearly put up by bedroom players who want to show the world how talented they are. These are usually the ones to avoid! However, the point about a total beginner (13 years old or otherwise) is a good one. How would a total beginner know which was a good lesson series and which wasn't? It is difficult to pitch at beginners without seeming totally patronising... [/quote] This is a problem I'm hoping to solve

[quote name='LiamPodmore' timestamp='1342597502' post='1737443'] I started using (and have turned a few friends on to) Dmanlamius' lessons, he gives pretty thorough explanations of everything he's doing, and his site learnbass.net is really useful as well. This is one of the first lessons he ever did, and is the start of his long, long string of lessons. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxgYi9_sek8&list=PL1881336B3EE60802&index=1&feature=plpp_video[/media] Liam [/quote] I'm going to watch a few of his others, but this is an awful video. The qualities crap, he rambles on for ever about nothing, he doesn't even know the controls on a musicman (one of the simplest EQ's out there), the sounds distorted, his rooms a mess. Again will watch his others though, and hopefully they improve

[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1342596651' post='1737430'] yes occasionally - last one i looked at was hooberts 'human nature' - better than that whitesnake geezer version imho [media]http://youtu.be/kyMjUg1VybE[/media] [/quote] That is nice but I'm looking at lessons rather than arrangements [quote name='Fat Rich' timestamp='1342599294' post='1737471'] [url="http://scottsbasslessons.com/"]http://scottsbasslessons.com/[/url] is very good. [/quote] Scott's one of the people that I think would be difficult for beginners. I was watching his "how to practice scales" series. In the 1st one he was soloing as examples on how to use them and on the second he was talking through standards. Hardly something a 13 yr old kid is going to care about.

What bits confuse you specially Rodger? I might try and make some videos just to see if I can do it easier for beginners.

I've been trawling through YouTube videos on subjects for beginners such as; technique, basic scales and stuff, and there are videos posted from some real world class players but I find myself thinking, this would be a lot more informative for beginners if they did this, or didn't do that. For example I've just watched one where the player talks through basic ways to practice a major scale, real beginners stuff, and then demonstrates it in the form of a fast solo passage. I would think this would confuse beginners? Am i right? Also demonstrating on 5 string basses without dots, does that hinder any of you? Would love to know your thoughts on how you've found trying to learn off YouTube videos. Cheers, Ollie

pretty sure it was Labrinth [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=III3G1egUcU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=III3G1egUcU[/url]

been playing 10 years, very seriously for 3 of those. I haven't been playing for the past month though because of this damn dissertation! So this thread is just rubbing it in!!!!

bassgear.com, bassdirect.co.uk, thebassgallery.com ect ect. If you want to learn the bass Scott Devine's contents good and Truefire.com is looking pretty ace.

Nothing wrong with being self taught, but learn some theory and you'll find the creative process of writing basslines much easier and the results will be more consistent. Thats what a band wants, they want you to rock up to rehearsal, be able to be told the chords, and have a bassline for it after playing through a few times. Your own imagination isn't always reliable and can often lead to stuff sounding the same for every song.

[quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1342128208' post='1730234'] I think the key word is YOU need to write new lines for the track [/quote] This is a great opportunity to learn how to write basslines though. Lots of people shy away from it but, if you get a teacher and they show you their methods, then its part of the learning curve. Edited for awful grammar.

its mostly moving between Em and C. Just play around those chords. Play bits like the intro legato and then try octave and 5th stuff, pentatonic stuff and use mostly 8th notes

I heard serge wrote everything

I'm back in the area for a few months and am looking to add to my roster of students. I am a graduate of the Academy of Contemporary music and have been under tuition from some of the best in the country. I have experience in gigging and teaching and have lots of content to suit all students needs. Any queries, please either PM on here, email at [email protected], or ring 07519153741 Thanks, Ollie

the bridge saddles are different to my tokai. Looks older if anything and i think mines an '86

Nice! Might need a better scratch plate though, god thats bright!!!!! Hope it lives up to expectations, should be awesome!