Lord Sausage

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1382189222' post='2249069'] Ah, admit it, you may not LIKE what I say, but you know I'm right ..and that's what you don't like about it. lol [/quote] You wouldn't let it lie!...He wouldn't let it lie!

[quote name='Joe86' timestamp='1377030611' post='2182557'] I recommend a track called 'state of the art' from the making mirrors album. It's fresh and unique, has plenty of bottom end boom and the production is great. [/quote] Check this live version of it! http://youtu.be/dCaNju6zvis

nice and simple bit of a riff, bit of a run, bit more of riff, bit more of run etc. or if doing a more traditional solo start slow and simple and build it up. You can go wrong with an old fashioned pentatonic with an added flat five.

[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1382108443' post='2248143'] White Spirit Woops. Beaten to it. [/quote]Done it. My neck now stinks! My bass neck that is!

[quote name='DarkHeart' timestamp='1382107860' post='2248128'] did you use grain sealer? [/quote]No, starting to realise that maybe i should of!

well i've done a few coats of primer and i guess i've ballsed up the prep. Novice and all that. I can still see the grain in places and i obviously haven't sanded it smooth enough as little dints appear everywhere. Guess that's the joy of plywood. I'm taking it to Steve Robinson @ ManchesterGuitarTec tomorrow so he can have a look and tell me how to remedy it. I am also going to pick up a bass and some more primer.

Well what i find hard to believe is how no Luthier has called themselves Lex!

Ha ha it's just like the Wooten thread!

[quote name='Graham' timestamp='1381701052' post='2242700'] Or at the very least have his wah pedal removed from him and told to start thinking about notes rather than just making a lot of wah noise. [/quote] Also his intonation is piss poor!

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1381701456' post='2242703'] But is it arse entertainment..? [/quote] Fookin genius! Like a class stand up comic, referring old themes. ha ha. well remembered!

That is just f***in incredible! And, most importantly, you look cool as f*** playing it. That is surely the main reason why we do it!

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1381699870' post='2242679'] Yeah. Trying to be slightly less longwinded than I tend to be, I in fact worded it wrongly. It reduces my joy when I loved the composition to begin with. It increases my joy when I disliked the composition. BTW, I'm not talking about general knowledge of theory. I'm talking about minute analysis of one composition - analysis that would involve writing out the whole composition by ear, then analysing it in its minute details, and writing down a reflection of that analysis. The immense amount of time used on a composition this way, and later "hearing" not my joy but my remembrance of the analysis... that is what ruined it for me. General knowledge of theory did augment my general appreciation for the work of a composer and for certain works, but appreciation is not the same as deep emotional experiences when hearing certain music. I prefer that my ears just hear how great a piece is, rather than that an analysis tells me it is great. [/quote] Totally agree with the appreciation is not the same as the emotional experience. It's just I'm a bit of a nerd musically and i value the understanding on a intellectual level equally but totally different to the emotional experience.

[quote name='oggiesnr' timestamp='1381699733' post='2242674'] +1 When I started learning theory I found that my appreciation of a lot of music (even jazz which I'd always regarded as a closed shop to me) increased. Steve [/quote]Totes!

Off the top of my head I think it is (broken into phrases over chord) Eb-D-C-Bb. F-D-Bb-G (both descend from first note of each group of 4) Can't remember g run. Something up the pentatonic to octave. (This bit twice) Eb_D-C-Bb. F-E-Eb-D. C-Bb-A-G-A-Bb-C then pentatonic fills over the C then D. I think they are different each time. Sorry for the bizarre nature of how this is written. Would be easier on manuscript. Hope it helps.

Can't go wrong with these really! http://youtu.be/PfAWReBmxEs http://youtu.be/kzkXGIRaxcI

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1381693231' post='2242509'] Don't take me wrong: I don't like analysis. Knowing the inner workings of a great composition reduces my joy over it. That dislike however, does not mean that analysis is not a tool. My composition teacher would have to use it as a tool to even start commenting on my choices. [/quote] It's the other way for me. It increases my joy!

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1381689541' post='2242419'] He's validating himself. Does that give it more merit ? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMIBSIBXRFE[/media] [/quote]I wasn't talking about merit! I was talking about art and whether you like it or not, whether it's good art or sh*t art. If it validates it's concept then it's art. If the dog or monkey validates it arse painting then it's arse art. Check out La monte Young and his work. It doesn't even matter if you disagree. Which i do with a lot of art!

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1381686404' post='2242328'] ...Or a labrador or a chimpanzee with a paintbrush up it's arse let loose on a canvas that experts & academics will decide is the work of a genius. [/quote] Only if the labrador or chimpanzee can validate its concept!

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1381682997' post='2242257'] Why?? I'm sure that term applies to the vast majority of people here (including me)... [/quote]It's belittling. It implies little talent. There are people who do it for a living but don't play with ELP! With art ,as well, how much you do doesn't dictate how much you know. For instance, i know an absolute genius pianist. Has massive ability and understanding in/of music......give it up. Couldn't be arsed. But he would still know more than most. Is his opinion less valid as he doesn't do it for a living.

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1381681947' post='2242238'] Feel free to disagree all you like, however I think that it is a bit off for a bunch of weekend warriors posting on the internet about a pro that is good enough to get the Carl Palmer gig, saying that he is giving “a badly executed and somewhat unmusical performance”! that just seems dumb and disrespectful to me. [/quote] labelling people on here 'a bunch of weekend warriors' seems dumb and disrespectful to me!

Amen! So much more eloquent than I.

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1381674928' post='2242103'] Gentlemen, If you are unable to contribute anything positive to this thread I suggest you check Google maps to find the location of your nearest school playground and go battle it out with conkers. [/quote]That's kinda what i was saying in my own ridiculous way.

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1381671379' post='2242009'] Funny you should say that. I criticized something recently and a member wanted to hear MY music -- which of course is a no win proposition since taste in music is subjective. This is diffirent. Bass Tractor claimed that the performance showed a lack of musicianship so simply performing the same piece more precisely is a valid request. Sorry you were confused by all that. [/quote]I wasn't confused at all. I think your pattern of arguing is. You're request for him to prove himself, i feel, then saying so far nothing was childish. Tell you what why don't we just get our cocks out and wave them at each other. We can measure afterwards if you like!

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1381655130' post='2241755'] But then again, 'they' wouldn't post their plans for shed domination where you could see it, would they? [/quote]

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1381632705' post='2241666'] Bass Tractor is pulling a pure puss move -- attempting to bully me by accusing me of being a bully -- [/quote] Ouch!..the bully card!...it's just like Big Brother this! [quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1381618698' post='2241580'] Tell you what, since you're familiar with the piece and the players execution was so void of musicality, record 16 bars of it yourself and let everyone hear how it REALLY should be done. I'll look forward to that -- as I'm sure everyone else will as well. [/quote] How old are you?......14!