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Spike Vincent

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  1. [quote name='Muppet' timestamp='1462882062' post='3046548']
    Strange question but it's worth asking here as we (our band) don't know if we're being unreasonable.

    For larger gigs we hire a sound engineer and quality PA. We pay him his invoiced fee. He's not a mate of a mate, doing this for beer money, he's a professional operation and ends up with more than any band member does.

    Thing is, he expects us to turn up to venues to help him load in and set up before the gig and to wait around afterwards to coil cables and shift speakers at the end. He's got loads of gear (more than I think is necessary but the sound quality is good so I don't complain). He's not a one man business but most of the time for our gigs does it on his own.

    This setting up/taking down takes ages and he gets arsey if we don't help. Are we being unreasonable in thinking this is not really our job, or should we be all teamy and hang around for ages helping him out? From a band side, we all help each other load and pack so we're not selfish in that respect.

    thanks

    Steve
    [/quote]

    I've done a lot of work as a sound engineer.If this guy is, as you say,a professional operation who's getting paid the going rate, then it's his job to sort his own kit out.End of.

  2. [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1462061087' post='3040050']
    That's pretty much par for the course. Two or three of the bands I was in during the seventies and early 80s were off their heads most of the time, even the pro bands. What am I saying? [i]Especially [/i]the pro bands

    But it was more or less expected of 'musicians' then.
    [/quote]

    Getting drunk before gig is one thing,getting drunk before rehearsals is another, but I shall never forget the moment of terror when I realised the guy whose turn it was to drive to the gig had got drunk before getting in the car.

  3. [quote name='scalpy' timestamp='1462029825' post='3039787']
    Being band less for a while I found a pub rock covers band in the deepest darkest depths of the Forest of Dean. They were nice guys and played well but they hadn't completely decided on dropping their friend as a bassist, so he'd come to watch rehearsals whilst they told them that's how it should be done, which made me look a right pratt. And after a few rehearsals conversation was starting to dry up and there wasn't a lot of common ground, so in an effort to keep things moving I pointed to one the guitarists many amplifiers (they rehearsed in his basement) saying 'I used to have an HH amp a bit like that'. He said 'You'll never guess who that belonged to?' I really couldn't think of a band who did, so he told me. 'Fred West'

    Did one gig with them.
    [/quote]

    Anyone I'd know ?

  4. [quote name='Swarbs' timestamp='1452720813' post='2952936']





    Personally I don’t understand why you need thousands of pounds worth of gear to play pubs, and why do you need 2 basses on stage ? To double your risk of damage !

    I’ve done about 500 gigs and broken a string once, that’s it, never had a problem with a bass on stage other than that.
    My pub gig rig stands me at about £250 incl. old jap p- bass copy, old Trace head and 15inch cab. (No silly pedals - I play with drums, 2 guitars, sax and harmonica, no special effects pedals can cut through that lot). No one in the audience or the rest of the band has ever complained about the sound, tone or volume. I’ve got better gear but I don’t see the point of using it for Pub gigs… other than for posing I don’t see the point.


    [/quote]

    Agreed.
    I don't get many people asking if they can have a go on my scabby left handed Squier.

  5. [quote name='Old Man Riva' timestamp='1449924577' post='2928017']
    Indeed. And a number of the players mentioned and their fellow band members were fans of the bands they were supposedly rallying against - The Pistols liked Rod & the Faces and The Who; Mick Jones was a fan of Zeppelin and Mott the Hoople - which is maybe where Danny Baker's notion comes from?

    But that's probably one for another day!
    [/quote]

    And that day is today...It's self evident that people will be influenced by the music that they listen to,and it must have been an interesting position for , say, Mick Jones, to be part of a musical movement that owed it's very existence to hating the music he was influenced by....

    Anyway, on a personal influence note,Algy Ward when he was in the Damned.

  6. [quote name='Cato' timestamp='1449922909' post='2927990']
    If you buy into the idea that punk was a reaction against the overblown musical virtuosity of bands like Led Zep,The Who & Pink Floyd in favour of a bunch of kids picking up instruments and playing their first gigs a few days later then The Police probably don't belong.

    I'd definitely allow them in as part of the 'New Wave' though.

    I suspect that like most things musical labels are largely down to personal interpretation.
    [/quote]

    I suppose that would depend on your definition of New Wave, but as you've rightly said that is a matter of personal interpretation.

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