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[quote name='Ant' timestamp='1420209842' post='2646699'] the VI i referenced above had to be strung with a normal bass string when we couldnt source a set of VI strings on tour, it seemed fine for the guy using it, think it was the low E he replaced [/quote] Good to know, I have about 30 used sets of used strings lying around haha. Tuning posts look fine to me and if there isn't going to be any tuning or intonation errors, and they hold at a decent tension to me there shouldn't be an issue but I should look around for strings as well I guess.

Ok, I'm pretty sold. However until I try one I do feel I should look at more string options. There isn't many sets made for it, and I think the lowest is .95 gauge. What it's like if I string up with some regular 34" scaled bass strings. I'm a bit worried about losing weight across the board, so would feel better having a set that was .5 heavier than what it comes with.

Cheers guys, I will check out the suggestions from Essential Tension. I do play with a pick so I shouldn't find it too hard to play it over a normal bass. Would be nice to actually try out one with my gear before making a purchase

I must have gotten this crazy idea in my drunken stupper last night, and I've googled a bit and looked at some YouTube clips, but it's all guitar players ramming out muddy chords and shredding the crap out of them. I was wondering how effective they are as basses in a regular punk rock type band, as as basses full stop through a bass amp and some overdrives? Our band is essentially one lead/rhythm guitar and another rhythm/melody/bass (me). I typically use the bridge pickup on a jazz bass, some neck mixed in(not that you can tell), usually have one overdrive going into another, and there isn't a whole lot of real deep lows. My main worry is it sounding pants, not enough lows, and playability. I can already see that I might be better using heavier strings than what either the fender or squier models come with(I think .95 is the lowest) Are there any sources I can listen back to on the web that use one?

Yeah the site is down right now. Must be doing maintenance or updating.

[quote name='Ant' timestamp='1419980815' post='2644658'] i really want one of these retro cabs now though [/quote] I'd need at least two by the sounds of this review though, but would look ace stacked on stage

This thread just went from sad to hilarious

[quote name='vailbass' timestamp='1419997733' post='2644739'] it's not "my way", bro. It's the way it's done in the high- end pro world. I didn't invent the idea, I was just looking to help guys avoid mistakes that will prove harmful; most pros don't want to take the time to share with less experienced guys but I would like to. The notion that I have an "attitude" is silly. When I just stated some facts about how it's done in the real world of professional music- making, I was greeted with crap like "you must not ever have used a good compressor" or "you obviously don't how how to use it". Would you expect a super- successful business- person to coddle a beginner that questions/ berates their ability or knowledge they're trying to share?....You've lost an opportunity to gain knowledge...good- bye.. [/quote] The very nature of all your replies thus far have been condescending, supercilious and down right offensive in some instances, weather they are meant to or not. What you tell us is a lot of conjecture based on what you've experienced, you've experienced a very small part of the world and just because you were paid to be on someone else's CD one time (or many) doesn't give you right of passage to beRate and belittle others, which is what you have done. (BTW that was supposed to be condescending, isn't nice right?) And honestly I could care less what you have done in the past, I've never heard of you so all that name drop was for nothing. Not one post was about helping anyone, but your ego. Not one post contained anything constructive, not one post was inquisitive as to why some use compressors. It was "if you use one you are crap", in a few more words granted but you can't polish a turd. Btw, I don't use a compressor. To add something constructive to the OP, things that can help even out volumes and string tones I find are the pickup heights being fine tuned, a decent setup and a set of balanced tension strings, for me they make a huge tonal difference, each string feels a little more equal. Also I've had great results with graphite necks in terms of evening out things. But I do love the warm grainy sound of a tube compressor, some really bring out harmonics and overtones that you just can't coax out with your hands.

I never saw Most of this thread till now, it took me all day to type my reply out in between work and playing shadow of mordor. What a load of moaning old nit pickers.

Question is would you sell on the retro 210? As I'd buy it. Personally I liked the TC RH750, sounds great great features etc etc however going beyond loud and into gig volumes with a band it lost much of what it was good at. And I never liked it wi any barefaced cab I tried. The compact I liked however like you seemed to not get much note definition beyond sitting right in front of it, particularly when it got loud at rehearsals.. I would vote you try the Super Compact as mines been nothing short of amazing in every situation. Dispersion is a lot better, and it feels hell a lot louder than the Compact ever was. Lots more punch. Using 500 watts into it has been plenty and I've been able to out do the kick drum sometimes. I want another but purely for aesthetics. Been interested in these retro cabs since they were mentioned a while back, I like the old school grainy tone and size and weight are always appealing, but I'd be worried about using one solo at anything beyond monitoring for myself.

[quote name='vailbass' timestamp='1419921011' post='2643921'] nah, compressors don't do any of those things...it's a terrible crutch that is never advisable. Now the sound engineer may use a limiter to good effect on the mains or a mix engineer will use compression after the fact on a recorded track and that won't affect your playing. Using a compressor in your signal chain that you hear while playing will take much (if not all, depending on the settings) of the control out of your hands and put it in the electronics; hence the "crutch". If you can play proficiently (and that should always be a goal) you will never want, much less need, a compressor in your signal chain. My advice to all my students is to develop control over your instrument so that electronic 'aides' will not be necessary. Best of luck to you! :-) [/quote] That's some backwards dark ages opinion you got there brother. You are entitled to it, but you might find that majority will disagree with you here. I do agree that one should develop technique however you seem to be neglecting the hundreds upon thousands of players in pub bands that might not have a tech savvy engineer and PA at every job, or even record a CD. And if the they do and the audience hears a nice compressed signal why are we the players not entitled to hear that sound? If you think you've lost control by using a compressor then you've used one wrong. I tell all my students, as long as you play comfortably and you like the end result it doesn't matter what goes on from point A(your hands) to point B (your ears)

[quote name='umcoo' timestamp='1419851850' post='2643146'] I was thinking about this the other day. Wasn't it priced at same as an Ad200, or even more? Decent sounding amp from the clips but hard to see how they could justify the price. [/quote] Yes can't remember the price exactly but was well over a grand. Sounded killer from YouTube vids, but weight and price seems to have stopped it coming out altogether I think.

Did they ever release? Were they discontinued? Did Orange realise it as a bit wrong for the market? I did read on the Orange forums the advertised weight as wrong, and was roughly half what it was printed as. Can't seem to find it on he website, and everything I googled wasn't much younger than the old BC thread on it.

I'm not clued up on the tech stuff but the 500 will be plenty with the cabbage you use. 500 and 800 will both make the cabs go as loud as they can go, the 500 might feel it runs out of juice sooner though, but you won't need to push it that hard anyway. 800's power amp isn't as good as the 500 though. The 500 on burst goes above that and it's continuous is just under 500. The 800's burst I don't remember but it's continuous is around 650 watts. Personally the 500 would be good for me, but if you can afford the extra 50 why not get the 800?

Eden WTX 550. Horrible sound, no oomph, one of those class D heads that give others a bad name. SVT3 pro. Lacking in power, can move the EQ but doesn't make much difference. Orange Terror bass. Fantastic volume, core sound is like listening to thunder through foam ear plugs. I'm sure I can think of a few more but those are stand out for me.

[quote name='lowregisterhead' timestamp='1403593186' post='2484118'] Here's a recent acquisition, a very rare USA Lakland 55-76... possibly the Holy Grail for a Stingray 5 fan who wants 19mm string spacing... that'll be me then! Custom scratch plate added by Martin at The Gallery. Plays like a dream, sounds phenomenal, light as a feather, but still balances beautifully. [url="http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lowwregisterhead/media/Lakland5576_zpsfa0ab06f.jpg.html"][/url] [/quote] Was there ever a 4 string version?

Been through some a liked them. Then my iPad crashed, so I'll be back and do the rest later

[quote name='PTB' timestamp='1419757517' post='2642387'] I recently asked Alex if was possible to go the other way - from metal to cloth - and was told it couldn't be done. I have now sold my S12. [/quote] Thought so, I do believe they have construct the fronts different for different mounting methods.

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I don't know if yours is second hand, or what generation. Obviously if it's new, you should be able to swap but I don't know how the cloth is attached on the new Gen3 models and on older models there was extra glueing needed to mount fixing positions for the cloth versions. Anyway. Should it be a second hand model, it shouldn't be too difficult to get a grill. Alex might reply and be able to supply you one for your model, assuming the new grills fit your super 12 (dimensions on the newer ones might be different) Or you could buy the similar chicken wire type they had on older models, cut to size and screw it on.

I've found similar as above. Pretty much quality parts, assembled well. Tuners leave a little more to be desired but again depends if you are really bothered about them being a little loose/stiff/jittery which is nothing typical of some other basses or a more weighted background. Neck pockets are nice and tight, although the neck finish for me is what let them down. However considering the price I would much rather invest in a Squier, more bang for buck. In all good instruments, but I'd spend my money else where unless I really wanted a modern player or one of those semi hollows.

Dimarzio Model Js. The neck pickup gets closer to the P bass tone, still not as fat but captures the essence well. Excellent ceramic pickups, the adjustable pole pieces really help in getting even tone and volume.

Our band page, regularly see's 'views' in the hundreds, and can increase with shares from member's personal page however I doubt many of those actually 'see' it. Also since they introduced a review system for posts, for people to say they don't like content that looks like adds/spam/etc, views on posts with links are in the toilet. So I do see it as a big of a chore these days, we get more people at shows by talking to them personally. Our page has just become a booking platform. However I would guest hat 5 percent of our audience interact and come to our shows because of band page, but the key is obviously interacting, not even goes through facebook liking any old crap as it shows up on their page and they don't necessarily want it on there.