Prime_BASS

No mention of holes on MIJ fenders. Cause they win.

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1383661815' post='2267220'] Just got round to reading this month's issue. It seems he is a pretty well respected player and surprisingly well known too then: Quotes: "Is this man the most advanced bass player in the world" "The busiest bassist on planet earth" He's made a few other covers too, including no less than three times on the biggest selling bass mag in the world - Bass Player! [i]Surprised more bass players haven't heard of him. . .[/i] [/quote] You may find that not every bass player reads that mag, or any others, same as every playstation or xbox owner doesn't buy or read their respective publications. Remember John Hall once said, BC represents 1% of the bass playing populous in the UK. Or some other BS.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1383668841' post='2267355'] I don't think you are being unreasonable, my friend , but I and many others are just trying to make the point that in the real world , it can be more about perception than reality . In the minds of most non-musiciuans , guitar + amp equals loud and annoying , regardless of the actual volume level . What this neighbour is complaining about is not that you are playing too loud , but rather [u][i]he is complaining about the fact that he can hear you at all [/i][/u]. It may well be that this chap is being obnoxious in the manner that he is complaining , but the hard fact is that if it comes down to a dispute that a third party has to get involved in then in all likelihood he will be the winner , not you . The suggestion that you approach this fella in a friendly manner and try to explain your point of view and ask his permission to have some limited playing time which he can veto by knocking on the wall or phoning you if he is too put out by it at any particular time is a very good idea , and probably your best chance of getting what you want . In terms of manipulating this bloke to your own ends , there is a huge psychological difference between being subjected to something you are in control of ( noise from your bass in this instance) and being forced to endure something you have no power to stop. [/quote] You seemed to have hit the nail on the head. So thanks for that.

[quote name='nottswarwick' timestamp='1383644910' post='2266849'] Not trying to be funny or provocative here, but what exactly is there to resolve? I think we can all see that it's too loud, so accept it and move on with a quieter or silent solution. Sorry. [/quote] I meant as in, hopefully come to an agreemenaggressivethe neighbours. I only realistically want to have it on a little maybe one day a week, so I don't think I'm being unreasonable. I only looked up building regulations or whatever they are as I don't think this building meets any standard there may be, just from past experience, and how much 'ambient' noise from them we hear too. I'm not out looking to justify having it on loud (which it isnt at all) and I also don't want to be breaking any laws unknowingly either. I've had the surround sound on louder and for longer periods so I'm a little perplexed at the complaint. Which was just for loud guitar. A few of the comments here feel as though they are in the vein of 'put and shut up'. Which is fair enough. I am not able to hear myself from their perspective, but it's far more annoying that I have to listen to music through headphones to block out the snoring at night than it is to listen to someone play guitar once in a blue moon. I was hoping for advice and I got some. Not what I was expecting but thanks all the same.

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1383604491' post='2266605'] I'm sure you're right about the ambiguity of law but my feeling is that resorting to law in these sort of things is tantamount to failure because the damage is already done and no amount of law will ever resolve the situation whatever the eventual judgement. That the OP is even bothering to look into the legal aspects is a bit worrying TBH. Fact is, it can't be acceptable to make someone else's life a misery and I'm pleased to see such a clear consensus of opinion on here - and the fact that we're all bass fans makes that consensus even more decisive. [/quote] I wasn't looking to back ny case up on a court of law. I can tell from how much we hear them in general that the sound proofing between us and them is minimal and I know from my previous residence that at the volume I'm playing it at it should be heard by them if at all. I used to work till 12 midnight and then go home and practice at a similar volume to what I am playing now without a peep from the neighbours. And I never heard them walk/talk/snore or have sex either. So I wanted to look at how much sound was allowed to be heard and then look at building regs. And comments like your last one make it seem I'm at it everyday with it on at stage volume, which just isn't the case. So I guess for now I am resigning the amp and cab to the one rehearsal a week and the one or two gigs a month. I have a headphone amp so I'll use that for now until I can resolve something.

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1383594951' post='2266424'] Yeah it was. I can't understand why you are frustrated in that case, you can blast your meat with a band in a rehearsal studio and on stage. Give your neighbours a break and practice unamplified or with headphones. It's desperately annoying having noisy neighbours. You should perhaps have diffused any potential for ill-feeling by talking to them beforehand, saying you're a musician and that sometimes, at reasonable hours and not for longer than 30 minutes, you may need to make a bit of noise, if it happens at a bad time, hammer on the floor and you'll stop. It's not about rules, it's about basic consideration for others. Things can get very unreasonable very quickly with neighbours and some less articulate types think aggression is the best way to deal with situations. It never is. Try to talk calmly with them and apologise for disturbing them, mentioning the snoring may be a diplomatic nightmare if you aren't careful. [/quote] The last part, the snoring. I am being considerate in the fact he(or she) may or may not be able to help the fact they snore, extremely, loudly. We've put up with it form the day we moved in. I feel I've had the amp on 'loud' only a handful of times and the past 2 times(causing the complaint) for any considerable length of time. They couldn't bare it one weekend. I'm not after getting into a complicated tit for tat arguement about it, I just want to know what I can do to help the situation.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1383594280' post='2266412'] As you may expect, I'm not able to say anything about culture and reasonable expectations in the UK. But IME, in order to limit the amount of noise experienced on the other side of walls and floors, in addition to reducing the bass frequencies, the best thing is to augment your cone area, IOW to buy an extra Compact. Though it may well be that my experience is too limited, and this idea defies physics. Me, I always use two cabs, one placed in ear height when I stand, and one in ear height when I sit (leaving just enough space between them for the amp to sit). I then play sitting/standing within one yard from them, them pointing directly at me. When I check with the neighbours (my ex and my daughter), they'll always tell that they hardly heard me, and it wasn't annoying at all. Of course my ex isn't a grumpy stranger, and also she herself is guilty of playing a classical guitar every now and then (which I wisely do not criticise ). [/quote] I doubt that buying another cab will help much lol. I have the cab raised to roughly a 2 cab height as it is, and I play sat pretty much sat right next to it, less than 2 feet away. And I realise that knob positions don't mean much but as an idea for volume, I have the gain set to just before clipping and and set clean, and then the master volume is 1 notch(the knobs have indentations) nothing, 2nd notch a light fizzle of noise and the the 3rd notch to get some more juice through it, and then that's it. The TV can still be heard over it, I can hear my girlfriend talk, I did some recording with my phone and I can hear the clanking rattle of the bass strings underneath the actual speakers noise. So I strongly believe its not loud at all. No boom, and like I said, in the other room (directly next to it) I can barely hear it, when they hoover it is louder.

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1383594135' post='2266406'] I know how I would feel if I was your neighbour Sounds to me like you need to get out your room and get in a band. [/quote] was this at me? If so, I am in a band, we had a live thing at the weekend, and we have rehearsal this week and a gig the following Friday, which I have 6 tickets left for if any one is interested.

[quote name='Jonnyboy Rotten' timestamp='1383589170' post='2266302'] I have a friend with the same problem. My advice is to say or better write to them simply - "I will be practicing my music on my bass guitar and you can either give me 2 times per week that I can practice for an hour or two, or if you don't I will let you know that I will be doing it at time X and time Y although this will not be before 9.30am or after 9.00 pm. I will promise not to play outside of these times without letting you know in advance when and how long I will be playing for. I also promise not to play at excessive volume, though I may not be able to avoid some small amount of sound leakage." This way they have to provide times which are more convenient for them or they will be given your practice schedule without any input on when is best. Your job is then to stick to the times agreed, not have it too loud and if you do want to play outside those times, make sure they know or use headphones! Simples! Just bear in mind that bass travels much better than other instruments so is always likely to be heard further away than you might expect/want. BTW I am not a lawyer so don't come running to me if it don't work! [/quote] this is what I was going to do prior, but after the complaint which in my eyes is totally undue I don't feel like being that nice about it realy. [quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1383589494' post='2266306'] Tough one , because however reasonable you are being in the eyes of other Basschat members , the reality is that if the complaints continue , regardless of what the letter of the law states, all the landlord will see is a young guy with an electric guitar and a big amp and that will automatically put you in the wrong . If you want a stress-free life and like living where you are now , I would recommend getting a Korg Pandora and some headphones . They are a lot of fun , and don't half help avoid these kind of situations. [/quote] I have been playing with a headphone amp for months before I got the cab, and many times while it's been here, I can count on one hand how many times I have had it on, on one hand, the rest of the time it's either been at rehearsals or through headphones, which lets all be honest is not the same as giving yourself tinnitus, or at least feeling it. [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1383590173' post='2266320'] turn down, cut the low end on the amp… it will sound crap but be good enough for practicing. Shut all the doors and windows and beware of volume creep…. Oh and what I do, if the cabs on the floor sit on the floor next to it right near your ear. Or I currently have it on our spare bed - decouples it from the floor, points at my ear and lots of soft stuff around to soak up too much BOOM! You might just be finding out that your barefaced is a lot better at kicking out sound than whatever your old cab was! [/quote] I will try and take a picture of where it is and where I am etc, as I pretty much do this. The volume I've had it on doesn't have that much(if any) low end and I can barely hear it in the other room (wireless system) which why I am perplexed at them having heard it. [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1383590927' post='2266341'] Record his snoring and play it back through your rig at 3am. [/quote] lol, its not that bad in honesty, but when its the dead of night and we are relaxing to go to sleep our selves, its undeniable. The sound of a snoring beer bellied oaf.

I'm sure this must be a common problem for many players. I live in a ground floor flat, in a converted terraced house. And there was a 'routine' inspection which went fine but we were out but the neighbours saw it fit to complain of someone playing loud guitar. We have been told to be considerate of the time of day and how loud it is, if indeed it is us. Now it is me, obviously I have had the barefaced over a month and I like to think I've been courteous as I feel like I have barely had it on. The other weekend though I went a bit mental, and played it all day Saturday(probably 11 till around 3 or 4 pm on and off) but not at any real volume, enough to hear it in the room but there was no way it as 'too loud'. The next day I played it again same volume around dinner time but not long at all, and had turned it off. I answer a knock at the door a couple moments after I settle, and get told to 'turn that racket down, had to listen to it all day. If it continues I will have to complain to the landlord' Not very friendly but I agree its not nice listening to something you don't want to listen to. Because me and the girlfriend have to listen to his bellowing snoring every night while we try to sleep. Now these people upstairs as far as I can tell never go out for any considerable length of time or on a regular basis so I feel like im now a musical prisoner. I have this monster I have to look at in a cage and maybe poke my hand in through the bars once in a blue moon in fear the neighbours will have another mardy. How should I proceed with - emailing our lettings agency back, the neighbours and satisfying the bass rage?? I have looked a little into sound and noise regulations and as far as I can tell I am breaking no rules. I am unsure however if this conversion on the building meets the regulations and standards that I have read on the web. The neighbours stairs(to get to their flat) is directly above our basement stairs and there is little to no separation between them, when I'm down there I can very loudly hear them up and down the stairs, and sometimes if they are loud enough I can hear them in the living room and bedroom of our flat. I'm so frustrated.

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1383562003' post='2265767'] Was pretty bummed out to read the following this morning. Sad how territorial people have become over original music... [url="https://www.facebook.com/gablues/posts/514125188684606"]https://www.facebook...514125188684606[/url] and this coming from a bloke who has forged a career on recycled blues riffs and 12 bar chord progressions stemming from the 30s... Some of the comments are absolutely priceless though. [/quote] What was the claim? And how do the court justify going against the defendant without them being present?

[quote name='E sharp' timestamp='1383512625' post='2265392'] It took me an hour to get it the correct way round - just wouldn't Email to my laptop , even when I spun it . Honestly , thanks for the replies guys , but I'm just gonna wait and ask someone at work , cause these things frustrate me so much . One day my board will be up here he he [/quote] Post it on photobucket and then paste the html link it gives you for posting on the internet.

Heft can always be changed with some clever EQ. You may find you won't need all that big low end air going around as 2 1x12 or 2 2x10 stacked vertically with give you a much clearer and cleaner midrange. I did gig with a single SVT210AV(a tiny 200watt cab) raised it a little and I didn't even have to push the amp very much. Yeah it was a bit weightless and I boosted the lows a fair bit, but that changes with a second cab underneath. With 2x10 at ear height(or at least as tall as an 8x10) will give you the clear midrange to hear yourelf and the one underneath will give you the low end you are used to due to off axis response and all that gubbins. I'd try that kind of setup first, if I was moving from a 410. Although my cab now is a 1x12 and it blows away a lot of the usual big stuff that's available at our rehearsal space.

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1383300206' post='2262724'] The modules are actually rated at 450/750 though. [/quote] They can print whatever numbers they like on them but past experience(not just the TC heads) shows that very rarely the rated watts and what it actually performs are two very different things. I haven't had the RH450 so can't comment, but I had the 750, and while it is loud, clear and present every notch of volume felt as if it got more and more compressed. And compared to the 500 watt markbass head I was using straight after I sold the RH750, it felt just as loud if not louder, due to it being for more dynamic, especially around the lows. The genz stuff now incorperates a similar power compression like the RH heads, some kind of power management to be more efficiantbor something I guess. The RH750 at gigs and at gig volumes is something that I believe people should try as it's very different a regular class D amp,

[quote name='Graham' timestamp='1383333135' post='2263356'] I really like the octopus decal on the "Mark Hoppus" bass - is there a Fender version witht that on? [/quote] no, unfortunately

[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1383302020' post='2262763'] Anti-Chinese bass sentiments? What is this, Talkbass? [/quote] That's rather simplifying my arguement which isn't my main focus at all. its a disgusting looking thing. However, I find it weird to pay the sum they are asking when I can easily get something cheaper, made in the same region or not, and it just be as good, if not better. If it's worse, for whatever reason, it's not hard with the left over change to make it substantially better. I don't think they've been out long enough, but the secondhand market will be the teller of how much value these really have. All in all I could care less about where it's made, I'd have any bass from anywhere providing I like it. And I hate this one.

Maybe I'm of a pasture of where a real fender should be made. I realise it's a silly notion, but I can hear the echoes of "but it's made in china". Your right, it's not a bad thing, but now to me it's just a squier with fender written on it. It just continues to perpetuate the confusion of the brand as a whole. It's maybe the same reason why I won't spend the sums sellers ask fir on a JV squier, no matter how much I want one. My bass is a Japanese one, I paid £350 for it. Regardless, my main issue is that it looks vile. As much as this indie hipster crap might be 'in' I'll still be playing band nights were the most popular bass is either an Ibanez or a squier P bass affinity.

Nice sound for personal use I guess but all too often at rehearsals and gigs I found the sound way to overly compressed, and more so as you turn up the volume, and I never found it to be that loud either and that was with a barefaced super12. It has features for days though, which makes it a nice studio or practice amp. I ended up going back to Markbass, with 500 watts it seemed a whole lot louder and more dynamic.

Xotic bb always. I love this pedal, I have two, used stacked. Will do high gain and low gain very well, on low gain it doesn't colour too much either which I like. I like it so much I'm having Sibob build me a copy.so then I'll have 3.

Aye, good show. I'm sure Tom at COG explained the ups and downs far better than me. I love my looper. Don't get hung up on buffers. Mines true bypass but only because I already have a few buffered pedals in my chain. One is a wireless and it's clearer than using any cable I've owned, the other is my compressor and I didn't even realise it was a buffered pedal until I read it online. Good buffers are helpful in tone retention and you won't notice that they are there. I haven't heard a buffer from COG but I'm sure it'll be a high quality one.

[quote name='risingsonestamp='13832329' post='2261975'] im 24, I'm a sucker for vintage style gear though. They seem to be marketing them to a younger crowd for whaalso r reason, presumably to hit the alternative hipster side of the market so perhaps you actually represent a minority. I'm going to use it for most music I play if it suits. [/quote] I'm 24, I don't mind the hollow bodied vintage stuff, the other one that's out that's symmetric looks nice, black headstuck in red yum. My guitar is a 335 dot derivative, I love the jack casady bass and the dean cabbie too. But this, it's shambolic. It looks like someone made a bass using a melted picture of a 335as inspiration. Like a weird indie copy that has an offset body the wrong way. I also question the chinese origin. Im a bit of snob when it comes to place of manufacture, but I'm sure as hell not going to spend that kind of mullah in a Chinese instrument when there are possibly hundreds fir around £200 Edit- on my phone hence poor usage of language and typing ability

I think it looks ridiculous myself. Cant see why they are liked so much, maybe I'm not of that "age"

Was going to start a new thread. But found this in the search. I want to know what is happening, if anything? The last rumour I read was that they are going through changes blah blah blah, however I couldn't find their website and it seems rather odd for a domain to just disappear. Maybe I didn't look hard enough.

Their website is a barrel of laughs. I wonder if they'll make me a aluminum or carbon fibre neck?