Prime_BASS

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Good point above. At some point, we only have the end users (ourselves) to blame about the fees and even the ric ban. Poor quality adverts that even after around a year of the rules stating there must be a valuation on your add even if its just for trade, there was still innumerable ads merely stating a bass was for sale or for trade. Updating the site isn't free to the owners and we get the most out of it, for me the fee was a no brainer. Although it's still a pain to sell stuff due to the sheer volume of potential viewers, but buying is never short of an absolute pleasure.

[quote name='Kevin Dean' timestamp='1364150096' post='2022550'] Thanks guys , so the only one deffinately made in the UK is Orange ? crumbs that's sad [/quote] Also matamp and barefaced, along with a few others. I'm sure I had a carlsbro that was made in Nottingham too.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1371464874' post='2114082'] Sounds like an awful lot of trouble for one semitone. Does it really make that much difference to the guitar sound? Is it worth it if the bass sounds worse then it did in standard tuning? Might it not be easier in the long run if your vocalists just practiced hitting the higher notes more? [/quote] I agree, a lot of work for not a lot of gain. Although we are making adjustments for each others needs, and this is just one of them. The singer can very much hit the notes, nothing very rarely gets too high but he is now essentially playing lead guitar aswell as lead vocals which I think we can all appreciate is a bit difficult. Top lad to bertbass who has suggested a capo. I believe I'm competent enough to just play songs I know a fret higher and the capo solves the low E problem.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1371464874' post='2114082'] Sounds like an awful lot of trouble for one semitone. Does it really make that much difference to the guitar sound? Is it worth it if the bass sounds worse then it did in standard tuning? Might it not be easier in the long run if your vocalists just practiced hitting the higher notes more? [/quote] I agree, a lot of work for not a lot of gain. Although we are making adjustments for each others needs, and this is just one of them. The singer can very much hit the notes, nothing very rarely gets too high but he is now essentially playing lead guitar aswell as lead vocals which I think we can all appreciate is a bit difficult. Top lad to bertbass who has suggested a capo. I believe I'm competent enough to just play songs I know a fret higher and the capo solves the low E problem.

[quote name='tonyf' timestamp='1371419281' post='2113796'] As MoJo said, I think dropping half a step will have nominal effect on the feel and tension. Try it at the next rehearsal and see. If it's a big deal, try and find some strings with a higher tension than your current ones and then the half step down will balance it out. [/quote] I'd already tried this. I used 105-80-60-45 and they sounded ok and the difference ill admit in a mix is negligible, but I can notice and that's enough to change for me. That and the feel wasn't really the same. So I went up a gauge and the tension and sound are better, but the feel is weird due to how large the strings are, that coupled with the unwanted strain tuning back up to E standard will bring is bit off putting. I did try stringing B to D, and the tonality or timbre is off, enough to make me cringe. Started looking at a backup for keeping in E standard to play to regular stuff at home, but again that's gping to be expensive.

The band I am in have taken the decision to tune to Eb, the difference is small but makes singing for us both a lot easier and the tone on guitar helps fill out some noise. My issue is my stringing options and whats best. At first I just detuned my bass down a half step, losing lots of definition and punch really. So I have gone for the next gauges up to counter the lack of tension. Currently on D'arddario's 110-85-65-50. The punch and clarity is back but they feel weird to play with and playing along to tracks that aren't turned to Eb become difficult when it requires open strings. Also they are bit more difficult to play. I could string back to regular strings and transpose stuff from standard tuning, but again that it'll become difficult when I have to substitute a low Eb for the next possible one up. My next thought is stringing B-E-A-D, losing the high G wont really lose much for me as I can only think of one of my Bands songs that really need it, and playing to tracks will be just as easy as before. My only worry is the tonality of a low B in my band along with possibly ruining a nut for the sake of trying. I don't think I want to carry on using the set that is on as they really do need a bit more attack.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1371138543' post='2110398'] Many bassists make the mistake of thinking that thicker strings = higher tension when normally the reverse is true. Therefore I wouldn't be surprised if when you had the nut adjusted for B-D stringing if the truss rod hadn't been slightly slackened at the same time. [/quote] As far as I am aware its true, if I want a low E with more tension I go up a few gauges, no?

Yes don't sell it, ever. I've had all from new, 2 compacts, midget and a super twelve T and stupidity made me move them on. And now I'm on my 5 th barefaced and hope I don't get stupid again.

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1371114882' post='2109894'] Well those two points agree with what I was saying! Simple economies of scale mean that anything "custom" or "boutique" tends to be more expensive, and thats before you consider quality. If every single ACG bass was exactly the same then they could make the basses a bit cheaper, but without compromising on quality. I'm not saying its a general rule, but its just something to remember. PS I'd love a custom ACG by the way [/quote] That's what the ACG graft series are for, the shapes are the same and usually from the same woods, with standard electronics that allow him to drop them in. Easier to make batches and change certain requirements before the final finish.

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1371154537' post='2110704'] Poorly trained staff fiddling with truss rods.... hmmm [/quote] Thats the case with a lot of shops though. A local shop has a few fenders ranging from Squiers to US standards and a MIJ MM sig. They are all pretty much on par since they've never seen a setup or string change since leaving the factories.

I consider anything below 9.5 lbs, light. If its lighter great but at the end of the day unless its 6lbs after an hour its still going to cause strain.

[quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1371120845' post='2110015'] Lot of time for the P/P format, this one is mine: [/quote] Something like that I'd want to choose which coils were on and use the EA at the bridge and the DG in the middle.

I think this issue about the J pickup being quieter is a lot of nonsense. By that decree, the issue would be the same of any two pickup bass. In truth, with pickups set at the same height, there will be a significant difference, due to how much a string vibrates along its length. The issue is almost always rectified with the J bridge being closer and the P being further away from the strings. While I agree that a single coil bridge J can sound thin in comparison to the P, I think primarily I think the P/J combo is aimed at two kinds of people, those who want a thumpy P but with more inherent treble and more scoop, and players who want both a classic woody P tone for one song and the J bridge tone in another. Although for me a PJ in a precision body looks horrid. And personally or me the neck pickup on A jazz does a perfectly fine job of a P bass sound. In a mix no one is the wiser.

[quote name='Tweedledum' timestamp='1371030401' post='2108745'] I like your socks! [/quote] Primark if you fancy some, they are also some blue ones with bananas on. Just got word from Fender. Made in 1992 and is a Long horn jazz, has a longer top horn and a deeper cutaway. Colour is Caribbean Mist. Everything else is as you will find on A stanard Jazz bass.

[quote name='iconic' timestamp='1370980611' post='2108315'] Interesting, what is a fender long horn jazz? [/quote] Between '89 and and I think '94 US standard Jazz Bass had a elongated top horn. I'm not sure about Precisions though. This is the first long horn or 'boner' jazz I've seen in the flesh and haven't seen the colour ever before.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1370975473' post='2108212'] I want to buy my old teal stingray back but I don't know who has it? I'm thinking that if I wait long enough Marcus will own it at some point and I can jump in and get it back! [/quote] always seems to be a teal Ray on eBay, last I looked there was 2.

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[quote name='BigBassBob' timestamp='1370972808' post='2108161'] It's also not a 60s reissue. [/quote] Aye, you may be right. Just googled long horns and seems they were as standard for this age of Jazz. Plus there is one that turned up on Talkbass that is in the same colour. Pickguard is the same and has the same number screw holes. And only measuring with my eyes but the top horn seems to be just as long.

[quote name='skej21' timestamp='1370968809' post='2108086'] I would! I have a Japanese 62 RI and it doesn't have 22 frets. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a 22 fret 60's jazz bass, RI or original. You could have a rarity right there! [/quote] Seems even a fender UK rep is interested in this, he is sourcing what exactly it is. I'm not getting my hopes up though, I am merely happy that it works, its in great condition and I love how it sounds when I play it.

[quote name='bh2' timestamp='1370966654' post='2108049'] Super colour! Top horn looks longer than usual. [/quote] I thought so too, but compared to long horns it doesn't look as long as those.

[quote name='iconic' timestamp='1370965577' post='2108038'] Wow, i never knew 60's jazzers had headstock adjustment, so wrongly assumed the reissues were heelend adjuster too... i thought that headstock adjuster came out in 73 and went out in 81.....tis true what they say you learn something everyday....especially with fenders! Lovely looking tool, enjoy. [/quote] Well I could be wrong, I'm looking into what exactly it is anyway

Hope I'm not adding fuel to a fire but he offered me a trade for my berg, I refused to help him save some cash.