I thought we were a bunch to spend a lot on gear...

[Musicman20]

Ive just been looking at Matchless amps, purely because Im curious.

The demos are incredible. If I played more guitar, id want one. I want one anyway, but they are super expensive. Eg, more than Mesa.

Which brings me to my point. Even though we all spend a lot, and think our boutique/micro/all tube point to point/whichever cost a lot, those Matchless amps cost a LOT more. Fantastic gear though.

I was checking out this shop as well. This must be the best high end guitar shop in the country:

[url="http://www.worldguitars.co.uk/"]http://www.worldguitars.co.uk/[/url]

Just check out the demos of what they have in!

[Mr. Foxen]

Fairly sure you can get equivalents for bass at equivalent cost.

[Kiwi]

PRS McCarty 'Shoot Out'

World guitars £4,399
[url="http://www.worldguitars.co.uk/electric-guitars/prs/1072-prs-mccarty-shoot-out--161241"]http://www.worldguitars.co.uk/electric-gui...oot-out--161241[/url]

Elderly Insturments $4,169
[url="http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/TQ2010.htm"]http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/TQ2010.htm[/url]

Draw your own conclusions about the prices.

[Golchen]

World guitars - Isn't that the one owned by the legend that is Jeff Pumfret???

[Lfalex v1.1]

Does Jens Ritter make guitars, too, then?

[BigRedX]

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='939204' date='Aug 29 2010, 09:33 AM']Does Jens Ritter make guitars, too, then? ;)[/quote]
[url="http://www.ritter-instruments.com/princess-isabella.php"]Yours for €7200[/url]

[Lozz196]

Check out Zemaitis Guitar prices - you could start a coup and get your own small country for the equivalent (well maybe not, but you get the idea).

[Waldo]

[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='939148' date='Aug 29 2010, 04:40 AM']PRS McCarty 'Shoot Out'

World guitars £4,399
[url="http://www.worldguitars.co.uk/electric-guitars/prs/1072-prs-mccarty-shoot-out--161241"]http://www.worldguitars.co.uk/electric-gui...oot-out--161241[/url]

Elderly Insturments $4,169
[url="http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/TQ2010.htm"]http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/TQ2010.htm[/url]

Draw your own conclusions about the prices.[/quote]

The prices of PRS guitars amaze me. A bit like Warwicks in a way....who actually buys them new?

[Lfalex v1.1]

[quote name='BigRedX' post='939226' date='Aug 29 2010, 09:58 AM'][url="http://www.ritter-instruments.com/princess-isabella.php"]Yours for €7200[/url][/quote]

Actually, that's really rather nice!
Quite conservative by Ritter standards, albeit a bit on the expensive side. I'd rather have that than a vintage White Falcon or somesuch...

[Mykesbass]

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='939310' date='Aug 29 2010, 12:36 PM']Actually, that's really rather nice!
Quite conservative by Ritter standards, albeit a bit on the expensive side. I'd rather have that than a vintage White Falcon or somesuch...[/quote]

Or the original Custom Shop Brian Setzer Gretsch that was around £17,000!

The other thing I've noticed is that when bass players start paying lots of cash for equipment they are either looking for technology and innovation or exotic wood. Guitarists seem to be looking for a substitute for that holy grail - the 59 Les Paul, or signature guitars in the hope of making them play like SRV or Rory Gallagher.

[Faithless]

Oh, Zemaitis - he's a fellow-countryman of mine well, at least his parents were.. he spent most of his time in UK.

[Sean]

[quote name='Golchen' post='939165' date='Aug 29 2010, 08:30 AM']World guitars - Isn't that the one owned by the legend that is Jeff Pumfret???[/quote]

That's the one!

I bought a PRS Custom 22 there a while back. Amazing shop, it used to be a courthouse. The guitarist in my band bought a Mesa Boogie MkIV there and a couple of MusicMan guitars.

[BigRedX]

World guitars - how dull. Expensive but safe.

Potentially they could have some interesting stock looking at the makes they list, but ultimately they've stuck to the tried and trusted models and shapes.

For example ESP Japan make some fantastic looking guitars - just check out the various signature models (especially those for guitarists from the visual Kei bands), but all World Guitars have are some instruments that look like Les Pauls only not so elegant.

I'm bored.

[Musicman20]

[quote name='Sean' post='939395' date='Aug 29 2010, 03:09 PM']That's the one!

I bought a PRS Custom 22 there a while back. Amazing shop, it used to be a courthouse. The guitarist in my band bought a Mesa Boogie MkIV there and a couple of MusicMan guitars.[/quote]


It does actually look like the BEST music shop known to man, even though there are no basses.

[umph]

[quote name='Musicman20' post='939106' date='Aug 28 2010, 11:19 PM']Ive just been looking at Matchless amps, purely because Im curious.

The demos are incredible. If I played more guitar, id want one. I want one anyway, but they are super expensive. Eg, more than Mesa.

Which brings me to my point. Even though we all spend a lot, and think our boutique/micro/all tube point to point/whichever cost a lot, those Matchless amps cost a LOT more. Fantastic gear though.

I was checking out this shop as well. This must be the best high end guitar shop in the country:

[url="http://www.worldguitars.co.uk/"]http://www.worldguitars.co.uk/[/url]

Just check out the demos of what they have in![/quote]

matchless make bass amps to. Their amps really are the dogs bollocks though, i've done some clones that sound very nice.

[99ster]

[quote name='umph' post='939594' date='Aug 29 2010, 09:00 PM']matchless make bass amps to. Their amps really are the dogs bollocks though, i've done some clones that sound very nice.[/quote]

Do you mean a 'Matchless Thunderchief' 200W head? Aren't they custom order only?
Would love to try one of those out...! Goodness knows what one would cost to get made.
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And there was a flip-top B-15 copy called a Thunderman...? Also had an incredible reputation & huge price.
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[attachment=57721:Trio.JPG]

Mmmmm...hand-made valve amps!


And as for this little lot!
[attachment=57784:eddie_du...derchief.jpg]
I feel...dizzy!

Edited August 30, 2010 by 99ster

[risingson]

I love guitar gear being a guitarist also, but I'm only really interested in Fenders, Ricks, Gibsons and that's about it. PRS I don't like at all, way too modern. Like someone said, the Warwick of guitars. Couple a good Strat with a Fender Twin or some Two Rock gear and I'd be set I reckon.

[Ancient Mariner]

I'd suggest that when you want something REALLY special then prices between guitars and basses aren't so different, with the exception of a couple of real vintage models ('59 Les Paul anyone?).

However it's also my observation that guitarists are more sensitive to tone than bass players, and the search for the holy grail of tone is taken much more seriously. Guitarists will also often want a palette of tones, whereas many bass players will seemingly find the sweet spot for the band and stick with it for the gig.

The net result is that guitarists expect and get a huge range of tonal variations, and are often willing to pay for it. What makes it worse is that there are a few 'holy grail' instruments out there for the discerning, and that helps companies like PRS to shift boat-loads of carefully made and decorative guitars to those who equate looks, build quality and price with tone.

[Mr. Foxen]

[quote name='Ancient Mariner' post='940430' date='Aug 30 2010, 09:50 PM']However it's also my observation that guitarists are more sensitive to tone than bass players, and the search for the holy grail of tone is taken much more seriously. Guitarists will also often want a palette of tones, whereas many bass players will seemingly find the sweet spot for the band and stick with it for the gig.

The net result is that guitarists expect and get a huge range of tonal variations, and are often willing to pay for it. What makes it worse is that there are a few 'holy grail' instruments out there for the discerning, and that helps companies like PRS to shift boat-loads of carefully made and decorative guitars to those who equate looks, build quality and price with tone.[/quote]

I've not found this. I've found guitarists are more sensitive to the tone afforded by having the right names written on things. I also tried out for a band that told me he could tell Joe Garcia had rubbish tone as he'd seen his pedal board, and wouldn't accept that I knew better just because I have actually heard Joe in action on a great many occasions (which he had never done, he'd just come into a practice to collect his combo), even did the old 'Imagine the tone that is sucked by all those pedals that aren't true bypass'. I've also handed guitars to guitarists so they could try them, and they still have to look at the headstock to see if it will sound right before they play it.

[Ancient Mariner]

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='940993' date='Aug 31 2010, 02:29 PM']I've not found this. I've found guitarists are more sensitive to the tone afforded by having the right names written on things. I also tried out for a band that told me he could tell Joe Garcia had rubbish tone as he'd seen his pedal board, and wouldn't accept that I knew better just because I have actually heard Joe in action on a great many occasions (which he had never done, he'd just come into a practice to collect his combo), even did the old 'Imagine the tone that is sucked by all those pedals that aren't true bypass'. I've also handed guitars to guitarists so they could try them, and they still have to look at the headstock to see if it will sound right before they play it.[/quote]

I understand, hence my comment about PRS.

Incidentally on the tone-suck thing, I won't ever buy any Cornish stuff because of the myths he wove about true bypass vs his own buffering system. Tone suck is as much about preamp input stage impedance as it is pedal design (at least in valve amps).

[cameltoe]

Who buys PRS stuff anyway?

Great for playing in a recording session

[cameltoe]

Who buys PRS stuff anyway?

Great for playing in a recording session I'm sure.

Nothing has the bite of a good telecaster though.

I've been spoit in my band- our g'tard isn't that precious about finding his 'holy grail', just enough 'balls' to cut through the mix.

And I'd say bassists were fussier about tone, from my (admittedly short) experience. The tone, volume and correct EQ of a bass can make or break the whole sound of the band.

[EdwardHimself]

yeah very expensive stuff. I'm sure you could spend at least as much on bass gear though. In fact you could spend a lot of money on practically anything, let's face it.

[EdwardHimself]

[quote name='cameltoe' post='941438' date='Aug 31 2010, 09:29 PM']Who buys PRS stuff anyway?

Great for playing in a recording session I'm sure.

Nothing has the bite of a good telecaster though.[/quote]

It's swings and roundabouts, entirely down to what you prefer and what works for the song. If i were to use a telecaster or a PRS style guitar it would depend entirely on what i was playing rather than which one i think is "better".