matski Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 I've seen this subject come up in a thread or two in the past and was reminded of it earlier when I read this: [quote name='JTUK' post='960955' date='Sep 19 2010, 08:53 AM']The other thing that makes me laugh is the guy from Muse swapping basses out eleventy-eight zillion times during a gig and using so many effects you couldn't tell which bass it was anyway.[/quote] So why exactly is Chris Worcestersauce using a different bass for every song during the Muse liveshow? Many naysayers would spout forth "He's just a big poseur, mocking us meagre peasants with his array of fine instruments!", but alas they are very much mistaken. Here is a guided tour of the man in question's backline rig by none other than his own personal bass tech and button pusher: So the secret is revealed at last! It is of course due to the eternal quest for [b]TONE[/b]! You see, each of those 5 Jazz basses have different 'subtle tonal nuances'. This is the reason for switching from Fender > Status > Rickenbacker > Gibson Grabber etc., etc. Then of course these subtle nuances are hugely enhanced by running them through a myriad of effects such as Big Muffs, Animatos and octavers. So let's not have any more mockery of this poor misunderstood member of 'the greatest rock band in the world today' shall we? He has enough on his mind already - in fact so much that he requires the assistance of his tech to switch his effects on and off for him. God bless him, say I! Quote
Chris2112 Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 Oh that poor boy! His head must be all over the place already playing all those root notes and pumping 8ths! While we're here Matski, any chance of showing us some photos of your Kubicki? Quote
MIJ-VI Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 A tone quest.., or?.. [url="http://www.iampanicked.com/anxiety-articles/obsessive-compulsive-personality-disorder.htm"]http://www.iampanicked.com/anxiety-article...ty-disorder.htm[/url] Quote
matski Posted September 22, 2010 Author Posted September 22, 2010 Well, why not eh? [attachment=59405:ExFactor_in_case.jpg] [attachment=59404:Kubicki_ExFactor.jpg] [attachment=59403:ExFactor...at_front.jpg] Quote
Chris2112 Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 Absolutely gorgeous Kubicki there! Quote
Rayman Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 I just assumed he changed his gear so often because he came on here all the time. I've been away from the site for two weeks, and have been blissfully GAS free in tha time. After just 10 minutes on here I'm drooling over the for sale section again. So I'm off, for another two weeks. Quote
cetera Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 All that gear just to sound like a Bass synth.... wow.... Quote
Conan Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 So how come with all that gear, his sound is essentially the same for every track? Quote
Chris2112 Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='Conan' post='964460' date='Sep 22 2010, 01:37 PM']So how come with all that gear, his sound is essentially the same for every track? [/quote] I'll have you know it takes a vast array of pedals and [b]three[/b] amps to accurately recreate that specific wooley and uninspired sound! :snob: Quote
dave_bass5 Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='Conan' post='964460' date='Sep 22 2010, 01:37 PM']So how come with all that gear, his sound is essentially the same for every track? [/quote] He uses a subtle tonal nuances filter at the end of the chain. Cant have these silly variations mucking up his finely tuned sound. Quote
chris_b Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 ....oh and he's just wants to screw up any Muse tribute bands out there! Quote
dave_bass5 Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='chris_b' post='964488' date='Sep 22 2010, 02:01 PM']....oh and he's just wants to screw up any Muse tribute bands out there![/quote] what, by coming up with very complicated, intricate bass lines? :-) Quote
bluesparky Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='chris_b' post='964485' date='Sep 22 2010, 01:58 PM']It's just because he can. OK?[/quote] I agree. Good to see everyone is in a positive and non-cynical mood as always! Quote
hillbilly deluxe Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) Who are Muse ? Edited September 22, 2010 by hillbilly deluxe Quote
TimR Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 Isn't this just another example of "It doesn't matter what I do to my onstage sound, the soundman always makes it sound like ....." Quote
Captain Rumble Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 As i dont have the massive levels of talent that you guys obviously do I can only listen in awe to him playing exactly what the music required of him, unless its at Wembly of course where the sound is so bad you cant hear most of what he is playing anyhow Quote
dave_bass5 Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Captain Rumble' post='964516' date='Sep 22 2010, 02:33 PM']As i dont have the massive levels of talent that you guys obviously do I can only listen in awe to him playing exactly what the music required of him, unless its at Wembly of course where the sound is so bad you cant hear most of what he is playing anyhow [/quote] I think the issue is with him using so many different basses, but then putting them all through the same effects. I really dont see the point. I dont think its really about his playing or talent, even though i made a comment about it. The Tech did mention about different tuning though, and i can see how using different basses would be a help. He does whats needed and yes, he gets the job done but i bet if he only use done bass for a gig no one would notice. Edited September 22, 2010 by dave_bass5 Quote
Captain Rumble Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) [quote name='dave_bass5' post='964520' date='Sep 22 2010, 02:39 PM']He does whats needed and yes, he gets the job done but i bet if he only use done bass for a gig no one would notice.[/quote] I bet people on here would And be able to tell what guage strings he was using Edited September 22, 2010 by Captain Rumble Quote
dave_bass5 Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='Captain Rumble' post='964537' date='Sep 22 2010, 02:59 PM']I bet people on here would [/quote] Ah, but who on here would go and see them ;-) Some people on here would claim they could tell if he had a Duracell or Eveready battery in his bass lol. Quote
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 He only THINKS he plays through all that gear. The soundman really takes a DI straight from the bass into the desk where its processed via a £100 multiFX pedal. Of course the tech couldn't say that on the video or Chris W would find out. Quote
dave_bass5 Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' post='964552' date='Sep 22 2010, 03:12 PM']He only THINKS he plays through all that gear. The soundman really takes a DI straight from the bass into the desk where its processed via a £100 multiFX pedal. Of course the tech couldn't say that on the video or Chris W would find out.[/quote] In fact they all have midi pickups on them and are just triggering a Roland bass station, preset 1. Edited September 22, 2010 by dave_bass5 Quote
bluesparky Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='dave_bass5' post='964546' date='Sep 22 2010, 03:06 PM']Ah, but who on here would go and see them ;-) Some people on here would claim they could tell if he had a Duracell or Eveready battery in his bass lol.[/quote] Quote
charic Posted September 22, 2010 Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='dave_bass5' post='964546' date='Sep 22 2010, 03:06 PM']Ah, but who on here would go and see them ;-) Some people on here would claim they could tell if he had a Duracell or Eveready battery in his bass lol.[/quote] You mean you can't?! I use a duracell in my passive precision... added growl and smoothness Quote
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