arthurhenry Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) Yes it's market research in its earliest form. Hope you friendly hard gigging lot don't mind! Edited September 24, 2010 by arthurhenry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I never raise my speaker cab and wouldn't spend any money on anything designed to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mep Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I have a mini-stack with 2 cabs so not bothered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 [quote name='spike' post='966632' date='Sep 24 2010, 01:08 PM']I never raise my speaker cab and wouldn't spend any money on anything designed to do so.[/quote] What he said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinynorman Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I voted for the last option in each case. Some random thoughts - the speaker/combo stands I've seen look naff, I certainly wouldn't use one in rock band; I feel happier if at least one cab is in direct contact with the floor, and if I want sound closer to my head I'd put another cab on top of it; since I bought a Markbass combo, being able to hear myself without excessive volume is no longer a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Bass cabs sound better on the ground/stage. If you have to have your sound nearer to your ears, get a second cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRev Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I raise my cabs for my double bass gigs - keeping them on the floor is a passport to feedback city. I use a keyboard X stand, £45 from Thomann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casapete Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 [quote name='chris_b' post='966700' date='Sep 24 2010, 02:00 PM']Bass cabs sound better on the ground/stage. If you have to have your sound nearer to your ears, get a second cab.[/quote] +1 Only lift mine off the floor if I cant get rid of boominess on hollow stages, otherwise it stays put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 [quote name='chris_b' post='966700' date='Sep 24 2010, 02:00 PM']Bass cabs sound better on the ground/stage. If you have to have your sound nearer to your ears, get a second cab.[/quote] This! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I use tall cabs. A means to raise them has never been an issue when required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I prefer guitar amps raised as the bass frequencies often can mush into the bass region otherwise - especially with humbucker guitars. Anywhere you play is likely to have beercrates and failing that a spare chair/stool which do a perfectly good job though. One more thing to carry - no thanks. Saying that, an idea I had once (which I didn't do anything about as I though it was a daft idea on reflection) was for a gear box to hold cables, mics, pedals / bits & bobs about the same size as a speaker cab and styled to look like one in tolex with a fabric panel to suggest a speaker/baffle. Even though this is a daft idea, some guitarists would probably love this as it could. [list=1] [*]raise their amp up [*]Give a home to loads of bits & bobs they probably carry around in asda 'bags for life' [*]look like they have a bigger rig (& therefore a bigger c**k) [/list] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endorka Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I always try to raise the speaker cab as this avoids feedback and allows me to hear myself onstage without deafening the other musicians. My only wish is that everyone else would return the favour - I have noted that many musicians who are guilty of playing too loudly yet claim to be unable to hear themselves do the "speaker next to their feet on the floor" thing, or worse, have the speaker in front of them, subjecting everyone but themselves to their dreadful racket. Of course they can't hear themselves, their ears are not at their ankles! I have a tilting combo stand to raise my amp, or if travelling light use whatever is available - small table, chair, beer crate. Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obbm Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 [quote name='chris_b' post='966700' date='Sep 24 2010, 02:00 PM']Bass cabs sound better on the ground/stage. If you have to have your sound nearer to your ears, get a second cab.[/quote] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I think it's a case of how big the stages are you play on..... most pub bands struggle to hear what they play as they are virtually standing on top of their amp. I play a lot of high end weddings and fortunately am normally around 10-15 ft in front of my 2 x 12 stack so hear pretty well what I'm playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endorka Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 [quote name='crez5150' post='966754' date='Sep 24 2010, 02:42 PM']I think it's a case of how big the stages are you play on..... most pub bands struggle to hear what they play as they are virtually standing on top of their amp. I play a lot of high end weddings and fortunately am normally around 10-15 ft in front of my 2 x 12 stack so hear pretty well what I'm playing.[/quote] Ha, good point. I tend to lurk around in the close vicinity of my amp irrespective of the size of stage, so I would imagine this colours my perception somewhat. Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 [quote name='endorka' post='966758' date='Sep 24 2010, 02:46 PM']Ha, good point. I tend to lurk around in the close vicinity of my amp irrespective of the size of stage, so I would imagine this colours my perception somewhat. Jennifer[/quote] I'm just a big show-off..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 My cab is on castors, so its sortof always raised, but it never goes any higher than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottle Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 If I'm gigging with the 4x10/1x15 on a Sunday, it goes on the stage, about 5' - 10' behind me. We normally set the band up in front of the stage. If I've got the Line 6 Lowdown, it'll sit on a chair comfortably enough, tilted up at my ears. I do also have some beer crates at home, just in case I need an emergency 'lift'. Always had problems if any of my cabs/combos are on the deck i.e. pointing at my ankles HTH, Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 [quote name='mep' post='966642' date='Sep 24 2010, 01:18 PM']I have a mini-stack with 2 cabs so not bothered.[/quote] ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benthos Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 [quote name='arthurhenry' post='966622' date='Sep 24 2010, 01:00 PM']Yes it's market research in its earliest form. Hope you friendly hard gigging lot don't mind![/quote] I use two cabs, but angle one up with a Markbass wedge - does that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algmusic Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 on my 2x10 - I try it on the ground first.. on a very few occasions, I take it off the ground - if It doesn't need to be loud and might be a touch boomy. But if you're further away from the cab you cab hear it better.. I understand that some take it off the ground to get it closer to the ear, but you lose the bottom end with my 2x10 and 1x15... On the floor!!.. 15's are made for the ground and I put the 2x10 on top and that's for the big big gigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allihts Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Where is alex claber when you need him!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilb Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 @JTUK - please either post less or change your avatar........ I cant concentrate!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I dont have any problems hearing myself but i do use a Gramma pad as a lot of my gigs are on hollow stages. As the poll said a couple of feet i didnt vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblin Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I use a gutsy amp with a 4 x 10 which cuts it fine, so it lives on the floor (wouldn't like to try balancing the cab anyway!). Guitar amps go on chairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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