Kev Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 right, i know iv talked bout this before but i cant find it so ye when i play bass with my fuzz probe, because my bass is active, it doesnt sound to good at times, especially when playin fast or holding a note, and iv heard this is because i have an active bass. is there any device/pedal out there (cheap as possible) thatl change my signal so that this is at least reduced? im a n00b when it comes to this, is it something to do with the impedance of my signal? help me people, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 [quote]right, i know iv talked bout this before but i cant find it so ye[/quote] I've saved you the extreme inconvenience of looking not even half way down the page [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=289&st=100"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=289&st=100[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 ah, why was it talked about in there? no wonder i couldnt find it but there aint any real direct answers to the question there, what would be the best thing to get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayste_2000 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Me and Toasted are working on something at the moment, kinda, sorta. Only people that will build you one that I know of is Barge Concepts and then you have to have it built into one of their Blender/FX Loops works very well though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 i really really need one, iv noticed it sound really bad at high volume what about this: [url="http://www.subdecay.com/ft.htm"]http://www.subdecay.com/ft.htm[/url] is there anyway you could turn off the fuzz on that and use that before the probe do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976fenderhead Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 So is this a general thing with fuzzes and active basses, like my Little Big Muff would sound a lot different (better?) if my bass was passive? In what way? The Fender Jazz Deluxe MIA I use is not very hot anyway, it always sounds better going to the passive inputs of amps and pedals that give that option and rarely has enough gain for the active input, so I suppose in those terms it's closer to a passive bass than to an active... It doesn't even drive the Punch Factory if I select the active input button... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 (edited) nah actives seem to work with big muffs just the same as passives, its jus compressed fuzz that needs a really clean signal that f#@* up, like the probe its really annoying, coz my board is fantastic apart from that one problem Edited June 3, 2007 by Alien Language Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Bass Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 you cud always try a markbass head. most have a filter that makes your bass sound like an vintage passive bass i have noticed a difference in effects using this. not cheap but a solution but just a suggestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basszilla Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 No, the markbass just alters the sound coming out of the speakers. That won't remedy the issue. He's talking about making his active electronics more inline with the performance of a passive bass when used with a fuzz. As tayste said, barge can make you a impedance buffer into a vbf2 which would sort the issue out. Failing that, get a passive bass or a different fuzz. I use a couple of fuzz pedals and they both work fine with my spector (bluebeard and a UF-01). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread Bass Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 yeah just realised that sorry i will see myself out hey give me a break i did a sixteen and a half hour shift in a severe and enduring mental health unit yesterday and i think i broke my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegarcia Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 I need one too. Has anyone seen any schematics or anything that could help? I know someone who could probably build it for me if I could find a schematic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted June 2, 2007 Author Share Posted June 2, 2007 (edited) im now thinking of moddin my bass so that i can switch between passive and active elctronics, so i talked to mansons email i sent to mansons: "hello would it be possible for you to mod my musicman sub bass guitar so that it has a active/passive toggle switch, so i can switch between active and passive electronics? would this require a new pick-up? thanks, kev" The reply: "Hi Kev, We can certainly do it. Possibly the best way would be to keep your existing pickup but add an EMG active circuit to it, which could be on a push-pull pot. Parts & labour on something like this is usually around about £100. If you'd like more information or to talk through alternative options, please give us a call on (01392) 496379. Regards Jay" is this worth getting done? idea is to solve the problem i have with my active bass and fuzzes. also are there any cheaper luthiers that would do this, prefferably local to bristol or liverpool/mancherster also this doesnt make sense to me, as i dont understand how the mod they suggested would make my bass passive, iv emailed them again.... Edited June 2, 2007 by BassManKev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_says Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 [quote name='BassManKev' post='10978' date='Jun 2 2007, 11:50 AM']im now thinking of moddin my bass so that i can switch between passive and active elctronics, so i talked to mansons email i sent to mansons: "hello would it be possible for you to mod my musicman sub bass guitar so that it has a active/passive toggle switch, so i can switch between active and passive electronics? would this require a new pick-up? thanks, kev" The reply: "Hi Kev, We can certainly do it. Possibly the best way would be to keep your existing pickup but add an EMG active circuit to it, which could be on a push-pull pot. Parts & labour on something like this is usually around about £100. If you'd like more information or to talk through alternative options, please give us a call on (01392) 496379. Regards Jay" is this worth getting done? idea is to solve the problem i have with my active bass and fuzzes. also are there any cheaper luthiers that would do this, prefferably local to bristol or liverpool/mancherster also this doesnt make sense to me, as i dont understand how the mod they suggested would make my bass passive, iv emailed them again....[/quote] Two forum reply, but what the heck. Some active circuits have push-pull pots that disengage the active circuitry. So when the pots are pushed in the signal goes through the circuit and the 9V battery, but when pulled out it just goes through the pots straight to the jack and out of the bass. I hope that's what you're asking for. Unless i've missread that on two forums horribly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlord Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 OK, I MAY be way off, but check this out: [url="http://www.bayoucables.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_39&products_id=118"]http://www.bayoucables.com/store/catalog/p...products_id=118[/url] A cable with resistors... might be what you're looking for, not sure, too early, can't really think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 I think the question you should ask yourself is 'do I use the fuzz probe enough to constitute modifying my bass or getting another pedal to make it work properly?'. If it's a pedal that you use all the time, fair enough but if it's just something that you use a bit, is it worth all the expense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted June 3, 2007 Author Share Posted June 3, 2007 tbh, i think it is ye im likely to be getting more fuzzes in the future too, so i really wanna get this done is anyone willing to do it for me on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 [quote name='BassManKev' post='11325' date='Jun 3 2007, 10:43 AM']is anyone willing to do it for me on here?[/quote] After all those friends you made I'm sure someone will jump at the chance. You won't get the mods done cheaper than my Steve Robinson - Manchester Guitar Tech. Google him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 There's also Ged Green in Stockport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythSte Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Tbh, if its just the fact that your output is to hot, turn the volume on your bass down a bit and keep the EQ flat? just compensate with amp volume and/or push the level on your pedal a bit. either im way off or its a bit of a no brainer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted June 3, 2007 Author Share Posted June 3, 2007 [quote name='ste_m3' post='11473' date='Jun 3 2007, 05:53 PM']Tbh, if its just the fact that your output is to hot, turn the volume on your bass down a bit and keep the EQ flat? just compensate with amp volume and/or push the level on your pedal a bit. either im way off or its a bit of a no brainer![/quote] volume on bass doesnt just control the level of the fuzz, it totally effects the tone too, so that wouldnt get close to workin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted June 3, 2007 Author Share Posted June 3, 2007 wouldnt this work? [url="http://www.tonetronix.com/pc/Radial-Tonebone-Dragster/Tonebone-Guitar-Effects-Pedals-Amp-Switchers/Tonebone-Guitar-Effects-Pedals-Amp-Switchers.html"]http://www.tonetronix.com/pc/Radial-Tonebo...-Switchers.html[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted June 3, 2007 Author Share Posted June 3, 2007 can you explain why please? i wanna understand this stuff, this thing alters the load coming from your pickup, isnt that the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Your pickups don't generate load. That device provides a load on your pickups. You need a device that has an output impedance of between 10K and 20K ohms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegarcia Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 Would this help or make it worse? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-MI-Audio-Boost-N-Buff-Treble-Booster-Buffer-Pedal_W0QQitemZ190119201977QQihZ009QQcategoryZ41416QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-MI-Audio-Boost-N...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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