make an active bass sound like a passive with fuzz

[Kev]

right, i know iv talked bout this before but i cant find it so ye

when i play bass with my fuzz probe, because my bass is active, it doesnt sound to good at times, especially when playin fast or holding a note, and iv heard this is because i have an active bass. is there any device/pedal out there (cheap as possible) thatl change my signal so that this is at least reduced? im a n00b when it comes to this, is it something to do with the impedance of my signal? help me people, cheers

[Waldo]

[quote]right, i know iv talked bout this before but i cant find it so ye[/quote]

I've saved you the extreme inconvenience of looking not even half way down the page

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=289&st=100"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=289&st=100[/url]

[Kev]

ah, why was it talked about in there? no wonder i couldnt find it

but there aint any real direct answers to the question there, what would be the best thing to get?

[tayste_2000]

Me and Toasted are working on something at the moment, kinda, sorta.

Only people that will build you one that I know of is Barge Concepts and then you have to have it built into one of their Blender/FX Loops works very well though.

[Kev]

i really really need one, iv noticed it sound really bad at high volume

what about this: [url="http://www.subdecay.com/ft.htm"]http://www.subdecay.com/ft.htm[/url] is there anyway you could turn off the fuzz on that and use that before the probe do you think?

[1976fenderhead]

So is this a general thing with fuzzes and active basses, like my Little Big Muff would sound a lot different (better?) if my bass was passive? In what way?

The Fender Jazz Deluxe MIA I use is not very hot anyway, it always sounds better going to the passive inputs of amps and pedals that give that option and rarely has enough gain for the active input, so I suppose in those terms it's closer to a passive bass than to an active... It doesn't even drive the Punch Factory if I select the active input button...

[Kev]

nah actives seem to work with big muffs just the same as passives, its jus compressed fuzz that needs a really clean signal that f#@* up, like the probe

its really annoying, coz my board is fantastic apart from that one problem

Edited June 3, 2007 by Alien
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[Dread Bass]

you cud always try a markbass head.

most have a filter that makes your bass sound like an vintage passive bass i have noticed a difference in effects using this.

not cheap but a solution but just a suggestion

[Basszilla]

No, the markbass just alters the sound coming out of the speakers. That won't remedy the issue. He's talking about making his active electronics more inline with the performance of a passive bass when used with a fuzz. As tayste said, barge can make you a impedance buffer into a vbf2 which would sort the issue out. Failing that, get a passive bass or a different fuzz. I use a couple of fuzz pedals and they both work fine with my spector (bluebeard and a UF-01).

[Dread Bass]

yeah just realised that

sorry i will see myself out

hey give me a break i did a sixteen and a half hour shift in a severe and enduring mental health unit yesterday and i think i broke my head

[joegarcia]

I need one too. Has anyone seen any schematics or anything that could help? I know someone who could probably build it for me if I could find a schematic.

[Kev]

im now thinking of moddin my bass so that i can switch between passive and active elctronics, so i talked to mansons

email i sent to mansons:

"hello

would it be possible for you to mod my musicman sub bass guitar so that it
has a active/passive toggle switch, so i can switch between active and
passive electronics? would this require a new pick-up?

thanks, kev"

The reply:

"Hi Kev,

We can certainly do it. Possibly the best way would be to keep your existing
pickup but add an EMG active circuit to it, which could be on a push-pull
pot. Parts & labour on something like this is usually around about £100.

If you'd like more information or to talk through alternative options,
please give us a call on (01392) 496379.

Regards

Jay"

is this worth getting done? idea is to solve the problem i have with my active bass and fuzzes. also are there any cheaper luthiers that would do this, prefferably local to bristol or liverpool/mancherster

also this doesnt make sense to me, as i dont understand how the mod they suggested would make my bass passive, iv emailed them again....

Edited June 2, 2007 by BassManKev

[dave_says]

[quote name='BassManKev' post='10978' date='Jun 2 2007, 11:50 AM']im now thinking of moddin my bass so that i can switch between passive and active elctronics, so i talked to mansons

email i sent to mansons:

"hello

would it be possible for you to mod my musicman sub bass guitar so that it
has a active/passive toggle switch, so i can switch between active and
passive electronics? would this require a new pick-up?

thanks, kev"

The reply:

"Hi Kev,

We can certainly do it. Possibly the best way would be to keep your existing
pickup but add an EMG active circuit to it, which could be on a push-pull
pot. Parts & labour on something like this is usually around about £100.

If you'd like more information or to talk through alternative options,
please give us a call on (01392) 496379.

Regards

Jay"

is this worth getting done? idea is to solve the problem i have with my active bass and fuzzes. also are there any cheaper luthiers that would do this, prefferably local to bristol or liverpool/mancherster

also this doesnt make sense to me, as i dont understand how the mod they suggested would make my bass passive, iv emailed them again....[/quote]

Two forum reply, but what the heck.

Some active circuits have push-pull pots that disengage the active circuitry. So when the pots are pushed in the signal goes through the circuit and the 9V battery, but when pulled out it just goes through the pots straight to the jack and out of the bass.

I hope that's what you're asking for. Unless i've missread that on two forums horribly!

[Dragonlord]

OK, I MAY be way off, but check this out:
[url="http://www.bayoucables.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22_39&products_id=118"]http://www.bayoucables.com/store/catalog/p...products_id=118[/url]
A cable with resistors... might be what you're looking for, not sure, too early, can't really think about it.

[Waldo]

I think the question you should ask yourself is 'do I use the fuzz probe enough to constitute modifying my bass or getting another pedal to make it work properly?'. If it's a pedal that you use all the time, fair enough but if it's just something that you use a bit, is it worth all the expense?

[Kev]

tbh, i think it is ye

im likely to be getting more fuzzes in the future too, so i really wanna get this done

is anyone willing to do it for me on here?

[Toasted]

[quote name='BassManKev' post='11325' date='Jun 3 2007, 10:43 AM']is anyone willing to do it for me on here?[/quote]

After all those friends you made I'm sure someone will jump at the chance.

You won't get the mods done cheaper than my Steve Robinson - Manchester Guitar Tech. Google him.

[steve]

There's also Ged Green in Stockport

[MythSte]

Tbh, if its just the fact that your output is to hot, turn the volume on your bass down a bit and keep the EQ flat? just compensate with amp volume and/or push the level on your pedal a bit.

either im way off or its a bit of a no brainer!

[Kev]

[quote name='ste_m3' post='11473' date='Jun 3 2007, 05:53 PM']Tbh, if its just the fact that your output is to hot, turn the volume on your bass down a bit and keep the EQ flat? just compensate with amp volume and/or push the level on your pedal a bit.

either im way off or its a bit of a no brainer![/quote]
volume on bass doesnt just control the level of the fuzz, it totally effects the tone too, so that wouldnt get close to workin

[Kev]

wouldnt this work? [url="http://www.tonetronix.com/pc/Radial-Tonebone-Dragster/Tonebone-Guitar-Effects-Pedals-Amp-Switchers/Tonebone-Guitar-Effects-Pedals-Amp-Switchers.html"]http://www.tonetronix.com/pc/Radial-Tonebo...-Switchers.html[/url]

[Toasted]

No

[Kev]

can you explain why please? i wanna understand this stuff, this thing alters the load coming from your pickup, isnt that the problem?

[Toasted]

Your pickups don't generate load. That device provides a load on your pickups.

You need a device that has an output impedance of between 10K and 20K ohms

[joegarcia]

Would this help or make it worse?
[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-MI-Audio-Boost-N-Buff-Treble-Booster-Buffer-Pedal_W0QQitemZ190119201977QQihZ009QQcategoryZ41416QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-MI-Audio-Boost-N...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]