Pete Academy Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Do you like your jazz mixed with funk or served neat? Quote
derrenleepoole Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Jazz mixed with extremely tight funk and uber minimalist zen groove philosophy = Nik Bartsch's RONIN Quote
Pete Academy Posted November 9, 2010 Author Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='derrenleepoole' post='1017819' date='Nov 9 2010, 04:44 PM']Jazz mixed with extremely tight funk and uber minimalist zen groove philosophy = Nik Bartsch's RONIN [/quote] Love it! Quote
Pete Academy Posted November 9, 2010 Author Posted November 9, 2010 I think jazz-funk has produced some of the best bass lines ever. Chameleon, anyone? Quote
Gust0o Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 No. It has it's moments, but just not in common usage. Some great lines, but it consistently fails the "would I play it in the car" acid test; also, it has no use in training montages, which is the real apex of the musical arts. Quote
Cat Burrito Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 I like 70s TV Cop theme tunes if that counts? Quote
risingson Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 I think most jazz funk is pretty awful, minus a lot of Herbie Hancock and maybe a few others. I love playing playing funk, but the term itself is a buzzword amongst musicians and particularly bass players, most likely because most funk tunes have a prominent bass line and drum part. Realistically I find the fusion of jazz and funk most of the time pretty annoying. Just my 2p though. Quote
Doddy Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 I totally dig it.....I also dig straight ahead jazz. Sure,there is some fluff,but there is alot of great music there. Quote
waynepunkdude Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='derrenleepoole' post='1017819' date='Nov 9 2010, 04:44 PM']Jazz mixed with extremely tight funk and uber minimalist zen groove philosophy = Nik Bartsch's RONIN [/quote] Isn't that just utter bollocks? Quote
Doctor J Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='risingson' post='1017878' date='Nov 9 2010, 05:56 PM']I think most jazz funk is pretty awful, minus a lot of Herbie Hancock and maybe a few others. I love playing playing funk, but the term itself is a buzzword amongst musicians and particularly bass players, most likely because most funk tunes have a prominent bass line and drum part. Realistically I find the fusion of jazz and funk most of the time pretty annoying. Just my 2p though.[/quote] This. To me it lacks testosterone, no balls, no... oooomph. It's like plain wallpaper. It's takes the blandest parts of both genres and mixes it together to get something... bland. It's not crotch-thrusting enough to really be good funk and it doesn't have the edge that is great jazz. So that's a no from me then. Quote
steve-soar Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Totally diggin' these cats, deep in the pocket monsters. Quote
thisnameistaken Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 No, I don't like cats deep in my pockets they may freak out and present a mortal danger to my nutsack. Out of jazz I mostly like bop I think, and I especially don't like fusion. Funk-wise I don't think anyone has done it better than James Brown yet, but I also like a lot of old-school rap music. Quote
steve-soar Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 No, I don't like cats deep in my pockets they may freak out and present a mortal danger to my nutsack. Quote
phil.i.stein Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) i'm sure i heard genesis p say 'nice' near the start there. was he the fast shows' jazz-blokes' muse (haircut included) ? Edited November 9, 2010 by phil.i.stein Quote
steve-soar Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) [quote name='phil.i.stein' post='1018079' date='Nov 9 2010, 08:28 PM']i'm sure i heard genesis p say 'nice' near the start there. was he the fast shows' jazz-blokes' muse (haircut included) ?[/quote] I don't know but "Tits" has left TG and I missed them at Hackney on 23/10. Nice. Edited November 9, 2010 by steve-soar Quote
chris_b Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 My CD collection includes Soulive, Karl Denson, Greyboys and Lettuce. These guys are making some great music, check them out. Quote
fatback Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 [quote name='Doctor J' post='1017970' date='Nov 9 2010, 07:01 PM']This. To me it lacks testosterone, no balls, no... oooomph. It's like plain wallpaper. It's takes the blandest parts of both genres and mixes it together to get something... bland. It's not crotch-thrusting enough to really be good funk and it doesn't have the edge that is great jazz. So that's a no from me then.[/quote] What he said Quote
steve-soar Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) Funk, is about f***ing, Jazz, is about higher levels of conciousness, jazz funk seems to cancel both out. Junk, maybe? Edited November 9, 2010 by steve-soar Quote
bubinga5 Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 i dig...there is lots of different styles you know.. Quote
urb Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 YES!!!! But not everything - I 'acquired' the entire Incognito back catalogue about a year ago and some of the early stuff is killing - I like the recent album as well... but my fave jazz-meets-funk group of the last few years are the mighty Garaj Mahal - featuring bassist Kai Eckhardt - he's an absolute groove monster and is possibly my fave slap bassist as he always plays deep, grooving lines and NEVER resorts to flash w*** - anyway if you've never heard their stuff there are some full length MP3s you can check out here - their recent album WOOT is well worth getting as well: [url="http://garajmahaljams.com/music.html"]http://garajmahaljams.com/music.html[/url] M Quote
thisnameistaken Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Incognito were my least favourite band out of that acid jazz scene, they just sounded so very tame all the time. Quote
Bilbo Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Sometimes but not often. I like hearing some of what's about in the genre but seldom buy any. For me, the tension arises from the fact that jazz is about the sound of surprise and funk is about repetition. As the repetition in jazz funk is primarily on the part of the rhythm section, I usually get frustrated quite quickly and look elsewhere. But there are exceptions. Quote
Vibrating G String Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 I just saw Jeff Lorber Fusion and the Yellowjackets last Sunday so that's a big yes for me In general I'm a big fan of mixed styles. Quote
Pete Academy Posted November 10, 2010 Author Posted November 10, 2010 [quote name='Vibrating G String' post='1019387' date='Nov 10 2010, 09:37 PM']I just saw Jeff Lorber Fusion and the Yellowjackets last Sunday so that's a big yes for me In general I'm a big fan of mixed styles.[/quote] Jeff Lorber? Wow, that's a blast from the past. Quote
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