thisnameistaken Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I've got this silly idea about putting a third pickup on a Jazz bass, up by the neck join. And arranging some switching system where it's always a 2-pickup bass but I can run the neck pickup instead of the bridge pickup if I want. Has anyone done anything like this before and was it useful or horrendous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 (edited) ive seen a Low End bass with a double J on the bridge and a single J on the neck...dont know how this sort of set up reacts sound wise. but if Brian does it its not going to sound bad im sure...dont know of anyone on BCer who has done it with the other as your suggesting...... what exactly do you want to gain from this pickup arrangement, or what do you think you might gain from it? imho the neck position has a thicker sound anyway...so adding another pickup is like feeding a pig that is already had its dinner .... the natural position of string to the bridge lends itself to a thinner sound...maybe thats why Sandberg puts a humbucker in that position to fatten the sound? i could be wrong... Edited November 16, 2010 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted November 16, 2010 Author Share Posted November 16, 2010 [quote name='bubinga5' post='1025451' date='Nov 16 2010, 03:29 AM']what exactly do you want to gain from this pickup arrangement, or what do you think you might gain from it?[/quote] A couple of things. I think with flats it might sound more open and natural, not necessarily more bassy but deeper and fuller in an acoustic type of way maybe. I'm also thinking it might be useful for better tracking from my OC-2, which is becoming more important. Recently when recording a song I had to switch from my Thumb bass to my flats-strung Jazz for an outro because it required a long note from the OC-2 that the Thumb couldn't do - it was flubbing out too early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rabble Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I wouldn't do it. Moreover I'm afraid that a neck joint pickup + actual neck pickup would sound horribly together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Play a Telebass before you do it. If you like either dub or incoherent rock thud, do it. If not, use EQ, it's easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robocorpse Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name='Beedster' post='1025596' date='Nov 16 2010, 10:25 AM']Play a Telebass before you do it. If you like either dub or incoherent rock thud, do it. If not, use EQ, it's easier [/quote] "Incoherent Rock Thud", that's a cracking name for an album. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbloke Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I owned a Fender HM Bass. The HM either stood for 'Heartfield Model', Heartfield being a company Fender acquired in the 80s or 'Heavy Metal' - the bass had a suitably metal red crackle finish, black headstock. It had 3 jazz pickups with a 5 way switch, which I modded to give me a three way switch and push-pull on the tone, which gave me three pickup output. Pickup arrangement was different to the one you describe - it had two jazz pickups in the usual positions and a third in between the two to give a kind of musicman-esque feel. Anyway, to cut a long and boring story short, I didn't feel the third pickup gave me anything - the two rear pickups sounded like a musicman without the bottom end oomph and all three pickups sounded like a jazz with one of the pickups wired out of phase - all clicky and nasal. The two tried and tested combinations of twin jazz pickups or precision and jazz do the job admirably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I like 3 pickups on a bass, and I disagree with some of the opinions offered here. I have recently acquired a Danelectro Hodad which has 3 lipstick pickups and all 7 combinations available. The difference is that they are all wired in series, so you get progressively more oomph the more you switch in. Because they're all single coils, there's no "mud", even on the neck pickup or neck+middle setting, unless you want it by using the tone control. I find that the different combinations bring a lot of tonal variety to the table. I also have a Gibson G-3 but it is wired somewhat differently in that it only has a 3 way switch offering neck+middle, all three or middle + bridge. I don't think a single coil Jazz pickup at the neck position will produce too much (or at least not as much) "mud" like a neck mounted humbucker a la Gibson EB-0/EB-3/later Fender Telecaster Bass would. The best part is that on a Jazz if you go for it and don't like it, you can cover up any routing with a new pickguard. All the same, I'd experiment on a Squier or Jazz copy rather than butchering a prized MIA Fender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Three single coils you say??? EBMM Big Al 4 bass???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 The single coil right on the neck on the EBMM Big Al is NOTHING but creamy and thumpy with nice definition, probably because its a single coil and a neodymium pickup. It sounds fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I like this idea and wish someone would do it and post sound clips. It could sound nice for reggae, where you don't want the growl of a humbucker, just the smoothness of a jazz with extra depth. Isn't there a PRS bass with a single coil right by the neck that Robbie Shakespeare played for a while ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name='Musicman20' post='1032979' date='Nov 22 2010, 06:02 PM']The single coil right on the neck on the EBMM Big Al is NOTHING but creamy and thumpy with nice definition, probably because its a single coil and a neodymium pickup. It sounds fantastic.[/quote] That's what I thought any sound ive heard from a big al SSS has been anything but muddy, unless that's what you want it do. It just goes deeper and PHatter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Doesn't Billy Sheehan have a PAF style pickup is that position? I saw him demonstrate it at one of his clinics once - produced some LLLLOOOOOOWWWWWW end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanOwens Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 How about the tractor bass? Darkstar + (2xJazz) = Beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanOwens Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I like this too (far right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 [quote name='DanOwens' post='1033206' date='Nov 22 2010, 09:24 PM']I like this too (far right) [/quote] That's the sort of thing I was thinking of. Whose bass is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttitudeCastle Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 [quote name='paul_5' post='1033180' date='Nov 22 2010, 09:00 PM']Doesn't Billy Sheehan have a PAF style pickup is that position? I saw him demonstrate it at one of his clinics once - produced some LLLLOOOOOOWWWWWW end![/quote] He has A Dimarzio Model one in the neck position, which is designed as an EB0 replacement pickup REALLY sounds deeeeeeeep when you crank the volume xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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