How the hell did this bass player not realise ??

[far0n]

How badly out of tune is his low E ? Shocking !

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF-qxbwO40c"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF-qxbwO40c[/url]

[51m0n]

ouch!

Bet he rues the day that got out

[Cat Burrito]

Before I clicked the link I assumed it was live & not a studio recording! I'll embed the link for people if you don't mind

[icastle]

[quote name='far0n' post='1029697' date='Nov 19 2010, 05:51 PM']How badly out of tune is his low E ? Shocking !

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF-qxbwO40c"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF-qxbwO40c[/url][/quote]

Somebody must have played a trick on him.
There's absolutely no way that anyone would play something that badly out of tune!

[Fat Rich]

It probably didn't sound so clear in 1963, if it's been remastered then suddenly you can hear all the problems with the original recording.

I remember reading about the air conditioning unit at Motown interfering with the recording equipment and making a lot of background noise, so they turned it off when they recorded and the temperature rocketed in a small studio with 10+ musicians in it. The result was everything went out of tune.

Plus it was probably recorded in one take, if everyone else's parts were great but the bass was a little out of tune.... tough!

Edited November 20, 2010 by Fat Rich

[Chest Rockwell]

sounds okay to me, that note's probably the best part of the tune, but then I do listen to a lot of Doom and Sludge Metal

[bluesparky]

[quote name='Chest Rockwell' post='1030228' date='Nov 20 2010, 10:54 AM']sounds okay to me, that note's probably the best part of the tune, but then I do listen to a lot of Doom and Sludge Metal [/quote]
What's sludge metal??!

[Dubs]

It's only the open E that sounds terrible. I think he's probably giving it loads of attack which is just making it sound weird. The whole thing sounds a bit off, just the technology making it sound worse than it really was I reckon.

[Jean-Luc Pickguard]

Its Jamerson isn't it? Close enough for rock & roll, but I think that 45 is warped - I have it on CD somewhere I'll give it a listen.

Edited November 20, 2010 by Jean-Luc Pickguard

[chris_b]

Sounds good to me.

In fact, except for that high voice, the whole thing really cooks. That's what made 60's soul music so great and inspired most of what came later.

This record would have been generally heard on car radios, transistor radios and Dansette record players all with 2" or 3" speakers so very little bass would have been noticed. There's very little bass drum for the same reason. That's why double bass was used for so long in Rock n Roll; no one could hear how awful most of it really was!

Anyway the rule of thumb when recording back then was, if the feel was good then nothing else mattered. I reckon the feel on this is great!

Edited November 20, 2010 by chris_b

[keeponehandloose]

Thats how records should be,go for the overall vibe and live with any slight imperfections.
No computer magic back then.Probably all done in one take without overdubs,or the ability to do them.

[Truckstop]

There's a little bit of a f*** up at 1.34 too. But yeah, the tune kicks it!

Truckstop

[Chest Rockwell]

[quote name='bluesparky' post='1030487' date='Nov 20 2010, 03:02 PM']What's sludge metal??![/quote]

ye'll have to google it for a world of knowledge

[Dunplaying]

I looked up Sludge Metal. It seems pretty nasty stuff.

[leschirons]

Sounds fine for the era to me. Bit of a floppy string maybe with over enthusiastic playing. As someone said, probably done in one take, and he probably only got $25 for the session. Has a great raw feel to it in my opinion.

[KK Jale]

Cor, what a fantastic track. First time I've heard the original.

My nomination for most spectacularly out of tune bass is Van Morrison and Them doing Dylan's It's All Over Now Baby Blue (much sampled, eg. by Beck)….

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58-DCkdGL5s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58-DCkdGL5s[/url]

Edited November 25, 2010 by KK Jale

[Dubs]

[Hobbayne]

[quote name='KK Jale' date='Nov 25 2010, 01:51 PM' post='1036339']
Cor, what a fantastic track. First time I've heard the original.

My nomination for most spectacularly out of tune bass is Van Morrison and Them doing Dylan's It's All Over Now Baby Blue (much sampled, eg. by Beck)….


Mine is [b]Rocky Raccoo[/b]n from the Beatles White album, or its so over flanged it sounds as if it well out of tune!

[leschirons]

Now this, is out of tune. (Lead solo that is) Bass is quite cool.

[skankdelvar]

[quote name='chris_b' post='1030511' date='Nov 20 2010, 03:25 PM']Dansette record players[/quote]
One of those in my mum's attic - two-tone cream / sonic blue.

As for the o.o.t. bass - well, it has a certain period charm.

[Spoombung]

...but the track is great. It's not the sort of music that I would listen to the bass player particularly, anyway. I honestly can't hear what's wrong with it.

[topo morto]

I like it... adds to the rollercoaster feel!

As long as you're in time, the notes are a secondary consideration anyway.

Coupla times I've started jamming before I realised that my tuner had got knocked and my low B was tuned to low G# or something.... all good fun.