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[quote name='ivansc' timestamp='1492365649' post='3279715']
Country music is also a very broad church.
How do you feel about that stuff? :D

Elevator music/Kenny G has NOTHING to do with jazz and never has.
Come to think of it, on listening to your example about I got the distinct impression that this was some decent players with a sax player who felt like he had to put in irrelevant atonal squawks from time to time in order to be taken as a serious jazzer. Mor smoke and mirrors but at least there is SOME musicianship in there.
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Kenny G is probably one of the highest grossing earners as an instrumentalist. But if you like the sax try out Colin Stetson, incredible...................https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra-EsJpkG9o

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[quote name='ProfJames' timestamp='1493276745' post='3287005']
But if you like the sax try out Colin Stetson, incredible...................https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra-EsJpkG9o
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I got a chance to see him a couple of years back when I was on tour in Germany.
I thought it was great to start with, he is a very impressive player. But, it all got very Ambient/Soundscaping and droned on a bit (but then again that's his thing these days).
He did a couple things on Contra Bass Clarinet which I liked.
Certainly an Interesting player.

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And more excellent sax, again with Jamaaladeen Tacuma on bass, Calvin Weston on drums and Marc Ribot on crazed guitar:

[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewor-dArJHs[/MEDIA]

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[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1493370121' post='3287772']
Parker, Brecker, Mintzer.Gezt.You can go on and on.... :D
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You can indeed.....some lesser known great (IMO) sax players....the late Bob Berg..Rick Margitza..Ellery Eskelin...David Binney... ;)

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Bob Berg, one of my favourite Tenor players. His Soprano playing was pretty special as well.

Love this album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMFn6VLW66g

An a straight ahead gig.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMFn6VLW66g

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[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1493387027' post='3287990']
Bob Berg, one of my favourite Tenor players. His Soprano playing was pretty special as well.

Love this album.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMFn6VLW66g[/media]

An a straight ahead gig.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMFn6VLW66g[/media]
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Yep...great album. I think it was one of his first ones.


If you are not familiar with Rick Margitza..check him out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suNOvlEm2dk

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Just listened to Radio 2, Janice Long live from the Cheltenham 'Jazz' Festival playing three hours of pop-sounding-like-jazz.

Nice.

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It gives me the arse, this 'let's ride on the back of the kudos of a Jazz festival without actually playing any Jazz. It's bad enough when VAn Morrison and Jools Holland get headline slots but Wilco Johnson? Ridiculous.

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[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1493490301' post='3288759']
It gives me the arse, this 'let's ride on the back of the kudos of a Jazz festival without actually playing any Jazz. It's bad enough when VAn Morrison and Jools Holland get headline slots but Wilco Johnson? Ridiculous.
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You could also look at it another way. Jazz is getting "exposure" to people who are not familiar with it. After seeing their non jazz artist(s) perform, some people might hang around out of curiosity to hear some jazz being performed. Who knows...they might even like what they hear and seek out other jazz artists. Jazzers are always complaining that it does not have the following it deserves. Would this not be a good way of gaining potential fans ?

Sometimes I think that jazz fans actually LIKE the idea of it being a minority interest, as it adds weight to the elitist concept.

The above ...from a jazz enthusiast of over forty years. ;)

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I have found that often the most innovative of players are not constrained by a need to stay within the so called jazz idiom
and also that a lot of the best new talent is overlooked in favour of a name that will sell tickets.

Diggs for me is one of the best but where can i see him ?

http://youtu.be/7w6MjJ7Cz8U

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Just downloaded a live album by the Michel Camilo Big Band called Caribe. Anthony Jackson plays an absolute killer gig. Great Latin grooves and unison lines absolutely nailed.

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8 hours ago, Bilbo said:

Just downloaded a live album by the Michel Camilo Big Band called Caribe. Anthony Jackson plays an absolute killer gig. Great Latin grooves and unison lines absolutely nailed.

Yeah, I have this as well. Top, top playing, and those arrangements are Terrific.

One of my favourite albums.

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We like what we like. I love all sorts of music and tend to go for songs that move me somehow rather than genres. "If the music doesn't make you want to either dance, cry, fight or fu*k, then don't listen to it".  Someone much cleverer than me said that.

I see it has, no surprise, descended into "Serious" Jazz, and the rest. "That's not proper jazz", etc etc. I have a good American friend who has been drumming in Jazz music for 40+ years. His view is that Jazz is anything you want it to be, and that's why it has evolved and morphed and never stood still.

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Not his Jazziest tune (whatever that might be) but I'm "digging" Kamasi Washington and looking forward to the new album in June. Here's the very short Youtube pre-release taster:

 

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