So I want a really deep punk tone from my Jazz..?

[HMX]

So one thing I love about my Jazz bass is the versatility, but I'm hunting for a really 'deep' yet cutting punk tone.

I guess it could be a humbucker-kinda sound I want.. like Greg K from Conspiracy and Americana-era Offspring, ala [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVhM2XcGE0E"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVhM2XcGE0E[/url]

Can anyone suggest pickups that could produce this type of tone?

Many thanks.

[Vibrating G String]

To me that's an overdrive tone that you can get from any jazz with any kind of pickups. I don't see that as deep at all, more grindy mids.

[HMX]

Perhaps not a great example for the 'deep' tone - mids and highs - yes, that is what the jazz is all about. But I guess the precision-like presence in the mix would be nice - and I don't like favouring the neck pickup.

[Grand Wazoo]

Try an all tube amp, that'll do it!

[LukeFRC]

thats the amp sound I think....
otherwise a P bass with a pic

[WHUFC BASS]

DR-Hi Beam strings

Ampeg or Trace Elliot tube head, 4 or 8x10 cab.

[Guest jbarks]

Get an ampeg and use fresh wounds.

Or get a Sansamp. No way you can get that sound from pickups alone.

Edited November 24, 2010 by jbarks

[HMX]

Cheers guys. But I'm a student too!

[LukeFRC]

experiment with your amps eq, turn off the deep switch, and on the bright switch.... and whack the gain right up.... and hit the strings hard with your pic

[WHUFC BASS]

[quote name='HMX' post='1035769' date='Nov 24 2010, 11:35 PM']Cheers guys. But I'm a student too! [/quote]

Steal it.

That's what anarchy is all about !!

[HMX]

Haha, yes! Maybe I would fit in with the stereotype better too!

[MythSte]

Aye, I Can get that tone with a fresh set of strings, a pick and a nice mid scoop on my trace tube amp - I use the same bass as you I think?

[HMX]

Thanks, ste! Yours is a 75 RI and mine a 70s - I guess they're different?

[Vibrating G String]

[quote name='LukeFRC' post='1035773' date='Nov 24 2010, 03:38 PM']experiment with your amps eq[/quote]
This bit of advice is the correct answer for almost all the questions that are dealt with by changing gear. And once you figure it out you realize you can play through all kinds of gear and get great tones from all of it.

[waltsdog]

[quote name='jbarks' post='1035764' date='Nov 24 2010, 11:28 PM']Or get a Sansamp.[/quote]

+1
Sansamp Bddi or VT will give you the sound you're after without a pickup upgrade.

[nollaig]

Only use your bridge pickup - forget about the neck one.

And, even if you can afford a ridiculously priced amp, get one of these -

[url="http://www.tronographic.com/"]http://www.tronographic.com/[/url]

Listen to the mid-cut demo here using a Fender Jag bass (same pickup config as your Jazz)

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TNtuJnJ9Zg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TNtuJnJ9Zg[/url]

[JakeBrownBass]

Your never going to get that tone out of the ashdown in your sig. I think your nearest chance is by using something like a sansamp as stated earlier.

[Guest jbarks]

Also, a used Sansamp would probably cost less than a new set of pickups and wiring, and lets you have a good DI while you're at it.

[Prime_BASS]

Easiest an cheapest options. IMO

Eqing- bass boost, low-mid boost(abit), Hi-mid cut(alot), treble boost(alot), I'm not sure how your animus voiced but at least this gives you an idea. High input gain helps aswell.

Or if you are feeling brave rewire the pickups to act in series. This is proven to be 6db louder than series, with a boost in low-mods and loss of highs, but what you loose you can stick back in.
Playing with a pick helps.

I don't exactly how you'll do this without looking at some diagrams but its a simple job.

As someone said, a lot of sound issues relating to gear can be solved with EQ-ing but you also have to remember that you can't make a chicken fly.

[buff]

Try a sansamp or a set of wizard's

[Cat Burrito]

I mainly used a Precision in my punk days but did move onto a Jazz. I liked the growl! Turn the volume / gain right up before setting the overall level with the master volume. Plus a pick played up by the bridge and you are there. I've moved away from punk these days but that was how I did it back then and when I listen to those old recordings I like the sound (if not my playing!)

[Mr Rabble]

[quote name='HMX' post='1035748' date='Nov 25 2010, 12:09 AM']and I don't like favouring the neck pickup.[/quote]

Do it.
You just need to cut a bit back the bridge pickup, from 100% to 95% output or even less cut.
Of course a powerful tube amp would be great

[janmaat]

How to get a punk sound?

First, practise room - got to be cold and damp with hard walls (garage, cellar)

Second, drummer - needs to be crap but insaneley loud

Third, equipment - got to be borrowed and crackling and sh*tty

Fourth, drown a crate of beer or sniff some glue or both or more

Fifth, crank up the volume

that should do it worked for me

i mean come on, is punk the new classical music???

[Musicman20]

[quote name='janmaat' post='1037616' date='Nov 26 2010, 11:57 AM']How to get a punk sound?

First, practise room - got to be cold and damp with hard walls (garage, cellar)

Second, drummer - needs to be crap but insaneley loud

Third, equipment - got to be borrowed and crackling and sh*tty

Fourth, drown a crate of beer or sniff some glue or both or more

Fifth, crank up the volume

that should do it worked for me

i mean come on, is punk the new classical music???[/quote]

Lol, whilst I agree the stereotype of punk can be seen as bad musicians, check out Matt Freeman from Rancid and Brian from a Wilhelm Scream.

The genre has changed a lot.

[Musicman20]

To the OP, both pickups on, Sansamp BDDI as pedal. Play with a pick. Done