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[dave_bass5]

Oh god please stop talking about the F1. I can feel the GAS building up already ;-).
Im very happy with both my SA450 and LMII so why im thinking of getting a F1 is beyond me but its starting to play on my mind.
Its not the size but the fact thats its "supposed" to have more punch and quicker attack. Am i right in thinking this?

How does the volume differ at gig levels? I know they are both rated the same but i have a feeling the LMII would sound a bit fuller in the mix, judging by the talk over on TB.
As i use a UL212 i know either head will sound good and loud but i do think my LMII can sound a bit woolly now that i have TI flats on my P.

Cheers.

[mr_russ]

I thought the F1 I tried had less top end than the LM2

[dave_bass5]

[quote name='mr_russ' post='126122' date='Jan 23 2008, 02:33 PM']I thought the F1 I tried had less top end than the LM2[/quote]

Interesting.
I guess i really should just go and try one. what bothers me is how it will sound in a gig situation.

I read that in the past that D class amps haven't always had the horsepower (is that the right phrase?) to get the sound out in to the room.
No experience with that though, just what i have read.

I was looking to get a SD800 last year but after talking a lot with Ken Jung over on TB i decided against it and got the LMII instead.

[poptart]

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='126136' date='Jan 23 2008, 02:42 PM']Interesting.
I guess i really should just go and try one. what bothers me is how it will sound in a gig situation.

I read that in the past that D class amps haven't always had the horsepower (is that the right phrase?) to get the sound out in to the room.
No experience with that though, just what i have read.

I was looking to get a SD800 last year but after talking a lot with Ken Jung over on TB i decided against it and got the LMII instead.[/quote]

I think that the LMII is better value than the SD800 and it almost as loud. I have stated before that the difference in tone is minimal. I believe the F1 has plenty of horsepower as does the LMII - however if you are on a budget I would recommend the LMII.

The prices are going up on Mark Bass in the next couple of weeks FWIW.

Regards

Mark

Edited January 23, 2008 by poptart

[dave_bass5]

[quote name='poptart' post='126149' date='Jan 23 2008, 02:58 PM']I think that the LMII is better value than the SD800 and it almost as loud.[/quote]

Yeah, thats the main thing that put me off getting it. you can get two LMII,s for the price of a SD800.

From what i have read and the one time i tried it out the SD800 seems to have more headroom in the low end and so seemed to kick more on the low notes if that makes sense. Less compression when digging in.

[poptart]

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='126153' date='Jan 23 2008, 03:03 PM']Yeah, thats the main thing that put me off getting it. you can get two LMII,s for the price of a SD800.

From what i have read and the one time i tried it out the SD800 seems to have more headroom in the low end and so seemed to kick more on the low notes if that makes sense. Less compression when digging in.[/quote]

Yep - it is all about headroom - the low notes on a bass use considerably more energy/watts than the higher notes, by a long way. If you are using ERB basses with B strings etc you can quickly run out of headroom at high volumes causing pseudo compression.

More watts = more headroom

The Powered Bergantino IP speakers we sell have 1000w class D amps in them, which when combined with the DSP gives loads of headroom and zero chance of blowing up the amp or the speaker.

Mark