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[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1253242' date='Jun 1 2011, 10:19 PM']Finally picking one up tomorrow.[/quote]

You've got all this to look forward to mate, and it's all true!

[quote name='Circle_of_Fifths' post='1050089' date='Dec 7 2010, 01:08 AM']I own one of the Squier versions of the Jaguar.

It is smaller-feeling, although 1/2" longer than my Fender Deluxe Jazz bass. It also only weighs 8lbs - [u]ZERO[/u] ozs.

The neck is prolly the greatest asset - right after the whole design and uniqueness. It is ultra fast and slick. MY bass-buying situation was more than gifted, as the frets are perfect - well as perfect as a factory setup can be I guess - but no complaints.

The knobs have had issues for other people although not for me. It is only a loose Allen set screw that might be loose on the concentric shaft and cause some unwarranted grief. There is NO reason to complain, as it's easily addressable and can be fixed in a few moments by a trained rhesus monkey.

The p'ups are very hot and powerful, so that will catch your attention right away! These are about as powerful as my active p'ups on my Fender Deluxe Jazz - really!

The details are clean, concise and well carried out. The area under the PG is clean, nicely mitered and no sign of slop anywhere.

The wires are vintage-type in that they are cloth wrapped - how's that for a nice touch that you can't even see? That's just class!

The body appears smaller, but it's really an illusion like I noted above, but it hangs very nicely on the strap with minimal head-dive, if any at all to me.

Paint and finish-wise there is nothing to say negatively. The hardware, although it may not be the most expensive, certainly is more than adequate and functional. It does not slip, bend, bag or sag at the knees.

The chrome is bright and appears to have a lot of depth to it - it should since in Indonesia there are fewer laws about HazMat and they can throw some nicer chrome there than we can get in the States now with the EPA rules and regs.

The action - which is NOT a good criteria to judge an instrument upon - was very good right out of the box. Speaking of boxes - I was the first human face it saw when it was opened here in the US from the time it was shipped until then.

I was the first person to actually touch it other then the salesman helping me take it out of the sealed box. It required very little adjustment to it at all for great playability. It had absolutely NO BAD ISSUES as it arrived.

So far - a couple of months into my possession - it still is great - greater still since I adjusted the string height a little to suit me. I still have what I would normally NOT have on it - the STOCK FENDER 7250NPS STRINGS. Why? They work on this bass - but this is the ONLY Fender or Squier upon which I find they work at all.

In this case, they are perfect and I will not buy what Fender calls their OE 7250NPS strings - they can't fool me! What they sell isn't a real Fender string at all!

If the ROTO RS45s don't sound as good when I finally have to put them on - then I'm gonna be on a string safari to find something that WILL work like the 7250s.

The pots are smooth, precise and no wobble at all.

The Tone controls are fantastic with the detents that keep them where you put them.

The Vol pots are also all the above without the detents. I don't have any trouble with one knob following another when I adjust the other knob - but I know of some people who have had a problem in this area ---. it's very easy to fix, like I said.

The shielding inside the trench is clean, and painted on, so I think it'll be OK.

Playing-wise - like I said the neck is blazingly fast and you feel like you are much more professional than you are with the clean action almost playing itself ahead of your thoughts and fingers!

There is no loss of sound volume or quality if you pan from one to the other p'ups, and the output is very linear with any adjustment with no sudden drops or peaks in the sound either.

I can induce some hum into the output if I get really close to my computer tower with all it's radiated RF - but if they are separated by more than 18 inches, no problem at all.

So far there has been no warpage, bending or twisting of any of the important parts. The fret wires are smooth --- everywhere.

I glossed the back of the neck with some pure carnauba automotive polish as I like a super glossy neck. It works for me.

If you don't buy one - you are gonna kick yourself in the head for missing an opportunity to own a very special piece of bass-guitar history. Buy it new and keep it for your kids or your posterity - but it deserves to be played all the time, everywhere.[/quote]

And that's a great review :)

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[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1049651' date='Dec 6 2010, 06:47 PM']I have developed a serious hard on for the look of Jaguars but I have no idea about the tone or feel.

Can people give me some idea what they sound/play like?[/quote]

I played a few Squiers in PMT, Birmingham a couple of weeks ago, TBH I came away disappointed. The active one I tried didn't feel nice, the fret ends were sharp and the tone was lifeless without variety (stacked pots) The other two (both passive, I think) were just the same really, dull, weedy sound, bad frets, the short scale one felt like a toy, but thats probably because it was so small and light.

I had been gassing for ages over the CV 50's precision so tried a couple of them as well. They were both horrible, huge fat necks, rough frets and dull, lifeless sound. I came home with my bank balance intact, which was a shame, cos I really wanted to like the Squier basses, but they just left me cold.

On a positive note, all the basses I tried looked really cool and did look to be well built apart from the rough fret ends.

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[quote name='munkonthehill' post='1253289' date='Jun 1 2011, 10:54 PM']what made you go for the squier compared to the Fender?[/quote]


Price and convenience, my missus is getting it for my birthday and I have sold stuff (although PP won't let me have the funds) to get a Bass Terror and an OCB 115 so a Fender is out of my range.

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[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1253297' date='Jun 1 2011, 03:01 PM']< Yakitty-yak > [color="#FF0000"][i] (although PP won't let me have the funds)[/i][/color] < ending yakity yak >[/quote]

Ya know - I have over $700.00 US hung up in PayPoo and I am so sick and tired - this being my first action with them - that I had to have my attorney send them a demand for payment letter that cost me $35.00US just to get typed with a letterhead.

I can see the deposit and yet they won't let me spend or transfer it out of their greasy mitts!

I refuse to ever use or even consider using PayPoo again for this roughshod treatment of me by them.

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[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1253297' date='Jun 1 2011, 11:01 PM']Price and convenience, my missus is getting it for my birthday and I have sold stuff (although PP won't let me have the funds) to get a Bass Terror and an OCB 115 so a Fender is out of my range.[/quote]

ah turning to the orange side then.

are you selling up the ampeg gear or keeping both rigs.

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loving playing the fretless atm but also need to replace the jetking thats going so i am saving up for a fender jag ,its the way to go i think, really want a sunburst one though which i havnt seen many of for sale.

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Ive always hated the look of the Jag. My singer had the guitar version for a while last year and i thought it looked like a toy.

For some strange reason though im now quite intrigued by them now. other than all those switches and dials, plus the funny shape, they do seem like they would be my ideal bass.

Be sure to let us know how it goes Wayne.

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[quote name='dave_bass5' post='1255249' date='Jun 3 2011, 11:45 AM']Ive always hated the look of the Jag. My singer had the guitar version for a while last year and i thought it looked like a toy.

For some strange reason though im now quite intrigued by them now. other than all those switches and dials, plus the funny shape, they do seem like they would be my ideal bass.

Be sure to let us know how it goes Wayne.[/quote]
Have to admit I was kindof the same, Dave, though have also started to look at them in a different light. Was in fact very tempted by the one Wayne has just bought, though as I`ve just agreed a deal on a Squier CV Jazz, I`m not too upset that Wayne got there first :)

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[quote name='Lozz196' post='1255336' date='Jun 3 2011, 12:31 PM']Have to admit I was kindof the same, Dave, though have also started to look at them in a different light. Was in fact very tempted by the one Wayne has just bought, though as I`ve just agreed a deal on a Squier CV Jazz, I`m not too upset that Wayne got there first :)[/quote]

Well a CV Jazz is not second prize IMO.

I love basses with jazz sized necks, prefer a P but having a PJ is even better, love blocked necks etc so i cant understand why i dont have a Jag yet. Maybe by the end of the year but no GAS for one yet.

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[quote name='dave_bass5' post='1255249' date='Jun 3 2011, 11:45 AM']Ive always hated the look of the Jag. My singer had the guitar version for a while last year and i thought it looked like a toy.

For some strange reason though im now quite intrigued by them now. other than all those switches and dials, plus the funny shape, they do seem like they would be my ideal bass.

Be sure to let us know how it goes Wayne.[/quote]

Other than the whole bass it's perfect?

It's great for anyone who wants a light weight jazz that looks different from the pack. But now even munk is starting to think the charm is going after playing his Rick live.

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What I meant was it offers almost everything I look for in a bass, good slim neck and I assume a good PJ tone. That would be the most important features and enough to keep me happy.
It's the other things it offers that I'm not too keen on but could live with.

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