bootleg Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I have an outdoor gig this coming Wednesday, and was wondering.....am I mad? The forecast is for a mere -3 degrees C (Bristol). Besides losing all feeling in my fingers, is my amp going to keep working, what are the risks, will condensation just blow the thing up? What about the bass? There's a PA, so should I just use my DI Box to minimise risk? Or should I cancel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mep Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Get another generator to power some on stage heating! The lights alone will not keep you warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 [quote name='bootleg' post='1049781' date='Dec 6 2010, 08:05 PM']I have an outdoor gig this coming Wednesday, and was wondering.....am I mad? The forecast is for a mere -3 degrees C (Bristol). Besides losing all feeling in my fingers, is my amp going to keep working, what are the risks, will condensation just blow the thing up? What about the bass? There's a PA, so should I just use my DI Box to minimise risk? Or should I cancel?[/quote] Cold on it's own won't hurt your amp (as a rule of thumb, the colder many electronic components get the better they perform). Condensation and humidity however will. If I was determined to do the gig then I think I'd rather risk a DI box than an amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootleg Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 [quote name='mep' post='1049787' date='Dec 6 2010, 08:08 PM']Get another generator to power some on stage heating! The lights alone will not keep you warm.[/quote] Checking with organisers about any heating. doesn't sound promising. It's a community event, with choirs and so forth on before us. Miss Bristol is on doing the prize draw after us, maybe she'll keep me warm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootleg Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 [quote name='icastle' post='1049793' date='Dec 6 2010, 08:12 PM']Cold on it's own won't hurt your amp (as a rule of thumb, the colder many electronic components get the better they perform). Condensation and humidity however will. If I was determined to do the gig then I think I'd rather risk a DI box than an amp [/quote] Thanks - that's true, absolute zero or something. Going DI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Savage Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 [quote name='bootleg' post='1049852' date='Dec 6 2010, 08:50 PM']Checking with organisers about any heating. doesn't sound promising.[/quote] You lunatic! If ever there was a time for incorporating pyrotechnics into your set, it's now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootleg Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 [quote name='Ian Savage' post='1049858' date='Dec 6 2010, 08:52 PM']You lunatic! If ever there was a time for incorporating pyrotechnics into your set, it's now...[/quote] Great idea, I'll check it out. Does Maplins do anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burrito Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 You're a braver man than me. I grudge carrying gear to & from the car in this weather! Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endorka Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 [quote name='bootleg' post='1049781' date='Dec 6 2010, 08:05 PM']Besides losing all feeling in my fingers, is my amp going to keep working, what are the risks, will condensation just blow the thing up?[/quote] I played one on Saturday, it was pretty good actually :-) I used the DI option. Never mind the bass though - you'll need fingerless gloves, many layers of clothing, and a silly but warm hat! Jennifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rOB Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 fingerless gloves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Savage Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 [quote name='bootleg' post='1049864' date='Dec 6 2010, 08:58 PM']Great idea, I'll check it out. Does Maplins do anything?[/quote] A few dozen cans of isopropyl alcohol (code RE71N) and a butane soldering iron (N12AR) will get you somewhere - most likely the local nick, but it'll get you somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumnote Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Make sure you have plans to deal with rain. Is it a covered area, could the electrics get wet. I am sure there are knowledgeable people who can give more advice than I can but wet and damp conditions don't mix well with electricity Electrical safety is key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamPodmore Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I use pound shop cheapo gloves (Always warm) that i have cut the end of the thumb and first finger off on one glove, so i can hold a pick and i wear them at band practice, its definately a good idea. If you dont use a pick you could always just put gloves on and play like that, i found it actually gave a nice tone which is wierd. Liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Here's a photo from a gig I did last weekend, right in the middle of the arctic madness. It was bloody freezing. No gloves, just lots of layers. I jumped up and down on the spot to keep warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 (edited) [quote name='bootleg' post='1049864' date='Dec 6 2010, 08:58 PM']Great idea, I'll check it out. Does Maplins do anything?[/quote] Nope - you need a license to sell pyros. Half of Maplins don't even have a license to drive yet Edited December 6, 2010 by icastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootleg Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 [quote name='endorka' post='1049877' date='Dec 6 2010, 09:07 PM']I played one on Saturday, it was pretty good actually :-) I used the DI option. Never mind the bass though - you'll need fingerless gloves, many layers of clothing, and a silly but warm hat! Jennifer[/quote] I have all those, so here goes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootleg Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 [quote name='bumnote' post='1049880' date='Dec 6 2010, 09:09 PM']Make sure you have plans to deal with rain. Is it a covered area, could the electrics get wet. I am sure there are knowledgeable people who can give more advice than I can but wet and damp conditions don't mix well with electricity Electrical safety is key[/quote] Checked and it is covered so that's something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootleg Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 [quote name='LiamPodmore' post='1049881' date='Dec 6 2010, 09:11 PM']I use pound shop cheapo gloves (Always warm) that i have cut the end of the thumb and first finger off on one glove, so i can hold a pick and i wear them at band practice, its definately a good idea. If you dont use a pick you could always just put gloves on and play like that, i found it actually gave a nice tone which is wierd. Liam[/quote] Sounds a great idea. More experiments in tone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootleg Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='1049886' date='Dec 6 2010, 09:17 PM']Here's a photo from a gig I did last weekend, right in the middle of the arctic madness. It was bloody freezing. No gloves, just lots of layers. I jumped up and down on the spot to keep warm. [/quote] Some loyal fans there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flyfisher Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I doubt that condensation will be a problem during the gig as the equipment will (probably?) be coming from a warm environment into the outside cold, so any moisture in the cold air (which carries less moisture than warm air anyway) won't condense on the warm gear. Then using the gear will keep it warm and safe - providing you have full protection from any rain, as previously noted. But, if the gear cools down to outside temperatures after the gig and you bring it into a warm humid environment then you can expect condensation. Not an immediate problem of course, but you should leave the gear to warm up and thaw out before switching it on again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootleg Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 lots of ideas and support there - thanks. I'll update afterwards (if I have fingers left to type with) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMX Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 When and where in Bristol is this, mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 [quote name='bootleg' post='1049781' date='Dec 6 2010, 08:05 PM']....I have an outdoor gig this coming Wednesday, and was wondering.....am I mad? The forecast is for a mere -3 degrees C (Bristol). Or should I cancel?....[/quote] At -3 I'd be more worried about the bass than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Yeah, I'd be heading to Crack Generator and buying one of those £40 Staggs rather than risk my pride and joy turning into a frozen banana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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