Doctor J Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I ordered a Hotwire 5 string many years ago, a custom jobbie with Q-tuners and a fancy Noll pre. While it was being built, however, I picked up a battered Bacchus 5 string cheap which was a revelation and, in truth, the Hotwire never really got a proper look in once it arrived such is my affection for the Bacchus. A couple of days ago I found a set of 6-strings I had bought for my old 6er but never got to use before I sold the 6... I found myself looking at the C string... then the Hotwire... then back to the C string... then back at the Hotwire... thought "[i]what have I got to lose?[/i]" and strung it up E to C. Wow! What fun. Now I'm using every bit of will power I have to resist ripping the frets out of the (absurdly) expensive Hotwire but, to be honest, I think a defretting is inevitable. Fretless E to C with lovely clear Q-tuners, how could that possibly be a bad idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry norton Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Doctor J' post='1069477' date='Dec 26 2010, 10:53 AM']I ordered a Hotwire 5 string many years ago, a custom jobbie with Q-tuners and a fancy Noll pre. While it was being built, however, I picked up a battered Bacchus 5 string cheap which was a revelation and, in truth, the Hotwire never really got a proper look in once it arrived such is my affection for the Bacchus. A couple of days ago I found a set of 6-strings I had bought for my old 6er but never got to use before I sold the 6... I found myself looking at the C string... then the Hotwire... then back to the C string... then back at the Hotwire... thought "[i]what have I got to lose?[/i]" and strung it up E to C. Wow! What fun. Now I'm using every bit of will power I have to resist ripping the frets out of the (absurdly) expensive Hotwire but, to be honest, I think a defretting is inevitable. Fretless E to C with lovely clear Q-tuners, how could that possibly be a bad idea?[/quote] You must be having a Steve Bailey moment. You could always try the high C on your Bacchus - you might just go mad for that combination thus making the Hotwire your default low B bass. That way you might not feel so bad about ripping the frets out of the old battered bacchus. Edited December 26, 2010 by henry norton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted December 26, 2010 Author Share Posted December 26, 2010 Ahh the Bacchus is perfection, I won't be changing anything on it, way better B than the Hotwire too. No, I'm just surprised by how much the HW has come to life with the change, plus I'm a little surprised by how much I'm enjoying playing it that way. The voice of the HW would definitely suit fretless, I reckon. Doesn't mean I'll be embarking on a journey of bass w*** though ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I've strung my (already unlined fretless) 1990 MM 'Ray5 EADGC. Best thing I ever did. Higher tunings sound more obviously "fretless". Assuming that's what you want of course. IMHO the best tuning of [i]any[/i] fiver would probably be DGCFBb (so down a tone from EADGC), allowing you access to drop "D" as well as the higher registers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 Hmmm ive often thought of a fretless 5 tuned E to C , you could even put a D tuner on the E string for that little bit extra , i still wont make the jump to a 6 though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted December 26, 2010 Author Share Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) [quote name='lee650' post='1069799' date='Dec 26 2010, 09:15 PM']you could even put a D tuner on the E string for that little bit extra[/quote]That's what I was thinking I'm surprised by how easy it's been to adapt to the different setup. I think it could be a really useful setup. Edited December 26, 2010 by Doctor J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 definately opens up some lovely chordal options!!! stanley clarkes tenor tuned 4 is A to C so would be a nice extension of that idea, but would be great on fretless to get into the cello range, def got me thinking now!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstrike Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 E-C is a fantastically fun tuning! Good luck with it. [quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='1069792' date='Dec 26 2010, 09:08 PM']I've strung my (already unlined fretless) 1990 MM 'Ray5 EADGC. Best thing I ever did. Higher tunings sound more obviously "fretless". Assuming that's what you want of course. IMHO the best tuning of [i]any[/i] fiver would probably be DGCFBb (so down a tone from EADGC), allowing you access to drop "D" as well as the higher registers.[/quote] DGCFBb is quite probably my fave tuning, espcially with a Hipshot Drop Tuner, so you can get the low C, that'll cover a tonne of ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 If you're after getting the Hotwire defretted, make sure you go to a professional and maybe even get a new board fitted as that will always look better than a defret. If you do it yourself you'll absolutely ruin the value of the bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I'd like a 6-string tuned an octave up, E to E...oh, wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='Muzz' post='1071747' date='Dec 29 2010, 02:07 PM']I'd like a 6-string tuned an octave up, E to E...oh, wait... [/quote] Jonas Hellborg used to have a Status Energy bass which was tuned E-E, like a guitar but an octave down. He could do some cool stuff with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Like a 50-year old Fender VI then? These ground-breaking musicians... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='Chris2112' post='1071741' date='Dec 29 2010, 02:02 PM']If you're after getting the Hotwire defretted, make sure you go to a professional and maybe even get a new board fitted as that will always look better than a defret. If you do it yourself you'll absolutely ruin the value of the bass.[/quote] I've defretted quite successfully in the past. I couldn't really care less about the value, I bought it new so I'd be taking a [b]huge[/b] hit no matter what Ah I'd never sell it, it's the only bass I ever had made specifically, it's not going anywhere, but I reserve the right to butcher it as I see fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 [quote name='Muzz' post='1071753' date='Dec 29 2010, 02:16 PM']Like a 50-year old Fender VI then? These ground-breaking musicians... [/quote] Well, no because it was a 34" scale instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Ahh, but the Fender VI was sunburst...makes all the difference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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