harveyn Posted January 3, 2011 Author Posted January 3, 2011 [quote name='tino' post='1076580' date='Jan 3 2011, 06:10 PM']Had the bedding matched the decor I may well have considered an offer....the pictures suggest I will not be undertaking such a compliment...[/quote] Call me old fashioned, but i come from a time when you could have conversations with people without being nasty! I also dont understand the message in expanded font about being right etc?? As i have said before this is a genuine sale, and if you are not interested then thats absolutely fine, if you are a REAL lover of the bass instrument, you WOULD want to own this, but if its out of your price range again thats fine, just please....no need to be nasty! Many thanks Happy days Harveyn
pantherairsoft Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Harvey, Glad you got pictures up. No ones being nasty... I think many people may be taken back by a 10k bass, esspecially wen you hunt around the internet and find general valuations on CT basses to be about 3.5-4k... but nothing nasty. As I am no expert in Carl Thompson basses maybe you could educate us on what makes this different and hence more valuable. You mention the 'Stanley Clarke scroll'... What is it? The message about being right - that is the users signature which appears at the bottom of every post they put up, not aimed at you... much like my list of basses and amps you'll see below this post. You can have your own forum signature by clicking 'My Controls' under the Basschat banner and selecting the options within there. Please take sarcasm and humour here with a pinch of salt... Apologies if any basschatters have made you feel uncomfortable. Rest assured we don't doubt the legitimacy of your bass. If you have no look here it may be worth contacting the Gallery in London who always take an interest in rare and expensive basses and would usually be happy to sell in the shop for a small commission cut.
molan Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Does it have a £2.5k discount as a quarter of the strings are missing Just kidding, looks like a really interesting bass. CT's are a bit 'marmite' to some people, and the time delays on orders are legendary, but I've always thought they looked like fun and supposed to be great to play!
harveyn Posted January 3, 2011 Author Posted January 3, 2011 [quote name='pantherairsoft' post='1076757' date='Jan 3 2011, 08:44 PM']Harvey, Glad you got pictures up. No ones being nasty... I think many people may be taken back by a 10k bass, esspecially wen you hunt around the internet and find general valuations on CT basses to be about 3.5-4k... but nothing nasty. As I am no expert in Carl Thompson basses maybe you could educate us on what makes this different and hence more valuable. You mention the 'Stanley Clarke scroll'... What is it? The message about being right - that is the users signature which appears at the bottom of every post they put up, not aimed at you... much like my list of basses and amps you'll see below this post. You can have your own forum signature by clicking 'My Controls' under the Basschat banner and selecting the options within there. Please take sarcasm and humour here with a pinch of salt... Apologies if any basschatters have made you feel uncomfortable. Rest assured we don't doubt the legitimacy of your bass. If you have no look here it may be worth contacting the Gallery in London who always take an interest in rare and expensive basses and would usually be happy to sell in the shop for a small commission cut.[/quote] Thanks for that What makes this different is point 1 its a 1977 Carl thompson Point 2 its a piccolo bass (which is unique in itself)and i have not heard even a 5 string bass have the tonal quality of this bass Indeed if anyone has any aspirations in taking Bass playing to an area where it replaces the six string guitar both for rhythm and lead bass solos, this is your guitar! GREAT THOUGH HE IS (Do you all want to sound like Anthony Jackson)? Indeed i believe its the only Bass that actually can carry of sustain and distortion units and enhance its qualities. I have played anything from BLACK SABATH,SYMTOM OF THE UNIVERSE ETC to School Days to Goodbye pork pie hat as a lead instrument the piccolo range allows this! The tonal quality of this instrument is amazing and you just dont want to put it down! The GMT active circuitry assists this bass admirably. Any Bass player would want this to compliment his collection, and indeed would probably wind up playing this most. If you can pick one of these up (if you can actually even find one) for 4k you have done very well! Go to CT website Les claypool model fetched over 5000 dollars and that is not half the guitar this one is. I believe also that Alembic Give Stanley his Basses, but CT has always insisted that the stars purchase, which indeed stanley did (guitar player magazine interview some years ago). Phew, oh and it looks great!! Harveyn
adledman Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 good luck with the sale and glad to finally see the piccies. i think for the purist that will want a CT of that age they will want the original electrics no matter how plain they sounded and will be surprised by the addition of a chrome scratch plate? its much a refinished fender it knocks so much value out of them. when you say a piccolo bass what is the scale on this? thanks
Chris2112 Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 GMT pickups? As in Green Machine Technology AKA Status Graphite? And Stanley Clarke has always paid full price for his Alembic basses. He had only ever had one Alembic given to him, which was the one with the big Dragon inlay. It was a gift as he had played Alembic basses and bought loads for 30 years.
chuck_stones Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) [quote name='mikhay77' post='1076583' date='Jan 3 2011, 06:12 PM']Wow,dont see many of these for sale,calling John the Fisherman,lol[/quote] Hey Mikhay77, that bass in your picture looks like the handy work of Mathieu Bilodeau. Do you own one? harveyn: good luck with the sale of your bass; it looks like an interesting instrument, but way out of my price range! All the best with the sale. Edited January 3, 2011 by chuck_stones
mikhay77 Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) [quote name='chuck_stones' post='1076937' date='Jan 3 2011, 11:37 PM']Hey Mikhay77, that bass in your picture looks like the handy work of Mathieu Bilodeau. Do you own one? harveyn: good luck with the sale of your bass; it looks like an interesting instrument, but way out of my price range! All the best with the sale.[/quote] Ha ha,yes I do own one of Matts bass's (one in my avatar),I think its the only one in the UK!Hence looking at this thread.Matt is a huge fan of CT bass's and like me couldnt afford/find one so calling on his fathers luthier experience started making basses with a influence in design from Carl T. First CT bass I see live was Les Claypool at rock city in 1994,a 6er and 2 4 strings.Strangely he used EMGs pups and circuits in some.So a bump for a CT lover,(sadly out of my price range)and also good luck with the sale too Edited January 4, 2011 by mikhay77
harveyn Posted January 4, 2011 Author Posted January 4, 2011 [quote name='mikhay77' post='1076977' date='Jan 4 2011, 01:12 AM']Ha ha,yes I do own one of Matts bass's (one in my avatar),I think its the only one in the UK!Hence looking at this thread.Matt is a huge fan of CT bass's and like me couldnt afford/find one so calling on his fathers luthier experience started making basses with a influence in design from Carl T. First CT bass I see live was Les Claypool at rock city in 1994,a 6er and 2 4 strings.Strangely he used EMGs pups and circuits in some.So a bump for a CT lover,(sadly out of my price range)and also good luck with the sale too[/quote] Thanks for the interest guys It is a great instrument, but i did say i would consider a part exchange deal But dont delay CT want to put it on there web site. You wont regret it! Thanks Harveyn
harveyn Posted January 4, 2011 Author Posted January 4, 2011 [quote name='adledman' post='1076904' date='Jan 3 2011, 10:39 PM']good luck with the sale and glad to finally see the piccies. i think for the purist that will want a CT of that age they will want the original electrics no matter how plain they sounded and will be surprised by the addition of a chrome scratch plate? its much a refinished fender it knocks so much value out of them. when you say a piccolo bass what is the scale on this? thanks[/quote] Scale is 34 inch i think, its very odd, ordinary strings will not tension so E has to be tuned to G using specially made rotosound strings, and boy does this make the bass sound amazing. The original CT strings it came with were rubbish. The original circuitry (whilst the instrument was beautiful to play) was very dull, i dont think Carls strong point was in the electronics area, or if it was i dont understand why he put this stuff in the guitar? Yes the circuitry is status bass active circuitry, and installed by Rob Green himself There was no additional cuttings made in the bass the circuitry fitted in the original hole,in addition to keep the aesthetics of the bass the GMT pick up is concealed in the housing of the original pick up. He is a clever lad that Rob Green, and he made a fabulous professional job of it. The scratch plate is a matter of taste and can be removed, and if that hits the price a little then so be it, i personally think it adds to the individuality of the bass! Its great that this bass has generated such amazing interest Harveyn
harveyn Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 [quote name='Chris2112' post='1076910' date='Jan 3 2011, 10:45 PM']GMT pickups? As in Green Machine Technology AKA Status Graphite? And Stanley Clarke has always paid full price for his Alembic basses. He had only ever had one Alembic given to him, which was the one with the big Dragon inlay. It was a gift as he had played Alembic basses and bought loads for 30 years.[/quote] This is not a conversation i want or need to get into all i know is that he bought his CT basses,and in addition i have my information from a guitar player interview and article from about 20 years ago. Indeed i saw Stan in an interview thanking Alembic for the supply of these basses, and i know he bought a lot of the early ones. But hey what the hell neither of us have any way of verifying this and it would be pointless anyway, i was only emphasising Stan liked these basses enough to buy them and play them. Happy Days Harveyn
harveyn Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 [quote name='molan' post='1076792' date='Jan 3 2011, 09:21 PM']Does it have a £2.5k discount as a quarter of the strings are missing Just kidding, looks like a really interesting bass. CT's are a bit 'marmite' to some people, and the time delays on orders are legendary, but I've always thought they looked like fun and supposed to be great to play![/quote] Thanks for your interest Not sure what you mean when you say marmite to play? If you are referring to the way they are first supplied i agree, thats why i had to get Rob Green to put Status active circuitry in it and now its amazing! Good one about the string, i bust it the other day, just waiting for some replacements. But it would be cheaper for me to just put some new strings on it than the 25% discount Harveyn
harveyn Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 [quote name='MB1' post='1072681' date='Dec 30 2010, 01:19 PM']MB1. Youll definately require pics for this [/quote] Well you have your pics guys! Harveyn
Bass is the place Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 [quote name='harveyn' post='1078131' date='Jan 5 2011, 12:20 AM']Well you have your pics guys! Harveyn[/quote] Check the scale length Harvey - looks more like a 30inch scale the way the bridge is set 1/3 way in to the body. You have attracted a lot of attention with this post... I think most of us here are courious as to arrived at your asking price. I've got a 34 scale Jaydee series 2 strung as a piccolo.............Does that mean I can sell it for about £5000?!
Chris2112 Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) [quote name='harveyn' post='1078127' date='Jan 5 2011, 12:08 AM']But hey what the hell neither of us have any way of verifying this and it would be pointless anyway, i was only emphasising Stan liked these basses enough to buy them and play them. Happy Days Harveyn[/quote] I'll be able to verify it quite easily when I get home from work, all I need to do is go to the Alembic website and find the listing page for the Dragon bass and I'll post it here. Written by someone at Alembic, it confirms that Stan has always paid for his Alembic basses. In comparison, his time using CT basses was minimal. I'm not sure if he has even recorded with one before? [url="http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_dragonsbreath.html"]http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_dragonsbreath.html[/url] Edited January 5, 2011 by Chris2112
Sibob Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Let's just leave this to a Sale post please guys! The bass speaks for itself I think Si
molan Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 [quote name='harveyn' post='1078129' date='Jan 5 2011, 12:15 AM']Thanks for your interest Not sure what you mean when you say marmite to play?[/quote] Sorry, wasn't very clear. Didn't mean playability but the overall look of CT basses. Personally I think they look kinda funky but a lot of people take one look at those scrolled upper horns and all the detailing in the carving and go "yuck", lol.
harveyn Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='Bass is the place' post='1078167' date='Jan 5 2011, 03:30 AM']Check the scale length Harvey - looks more like a 30inch scale the way the bridge is set 1/3 way in to the body. You have attracted a lot of attention with this post... I think most of us here are courious as to arrived at your asking price. I've got a 34 scale Jaydee series 2 strung as a piccolo.............Does that mean I can sell it for about £5000?![/quote] The bass has created a lot of interest due to its uniqueness,and because of the rarety of these instruments everyone is curious as to how it plays, in addition there are an awful lot of players that seem to dream of owning a CT. I would have no idea what your JAYDEE is worth, but thanks for asking my advise, my experience in life is that anything is worth around about what someone is willing to pay! I would be happy to take yours in par ex though Many thanks Harveyn
harveyn Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='molan' post='1078248' date='Jan 5 2011, 08:56 AM']Sorry, wasn't very clear. Didn't mean playability but the overall look of CT basses. Personally I think they look kinda funky but a lot of people take one look at those scrolled upper horns and all the detailing in the carving and go "yuck", lol.[/quote] Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, thankfully enoug people seem to love CT enough for him to stay in business! Thanks for your response It could be yours ?! Harveyn
harveyn Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='Sibob' post='1078247' date='Jan 5 2011, 08:56 AM']Let's just leave this to a Sale post please guys! The bass speaks for itself I think Si[/quote]le Thanks Si I just want to sell this great instrument not have a battle Harveyn
harveyn Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='Chris2112' post='1078181' date='Jan 5 2011, 06:15 AM']I'll be able to verify it quite easily when I get home from work, all I need to do is go to the Alembic website and find the listing page for the Dragon bass and I'll post it here. Written by someone at Alembic, it confirms that Stan has always paid for his Alembic basses. In comparison, his time using CT basses was minimal. I'm not sure if he has even recorded with one before? [url="http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_dragonsbreath.html"]http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_dragonsbreath.html[/url][/quote] Surprised you arent aware with your knowledge.....RETURN TO FOREVER LIVE for one!
harveyn Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 [quote name='daflewis' post='1075215' date='Jan 2 2011, 12:42 PM']Hi Mike, yes still here, though not as often these days as there's so much work to do on the new house! Chaps, I'm not saying everyone was rude and doesn't even deserve a response - Pantherairsoft will know full well that I'm not referring to him. What I AM saying is that if you look at the timeline, he was given about 90mins of helpful advice; apparently had a problem loading pics so probably went to bed (it being around 11.30pm) and the next time he logs in he sees a very different attitude and is probably scared off. Now he MAY have been trying it on, or he MAY have had a bass made of Brazilian rosewood with solid gold hardware.... we'll probably never know. But this has been spoken of before and is one of the problems of the internet - like driving; everyone is in their hermetically sealed environment and treats others in a way that they never would face to face.[/quote] I have just read this (bullet) and thanks for that, some of us have not the time or inclination to continually sit at a computer loading pointless rude unnessessary comments (and of course not all comments were bad). I did have trouble loading the pictures, and had to go through photobucket in the end. Anyway it has certainly generated some interest very quickly, and if you are interested anyone out there let me know and we can talk money and i will take a part ex. My god all i want to do is sell a bass!?
Chris2112 Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 [quote name='harveyn' post='1080599' date='Jan 6 2011, 11:45 PM']Surprised you arent aware with your knowledge.....RETURN TO FOREVER LIVE for one![/quote] As in "Return to Forever Live - The Complete Concert"?
derrenleepoole Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 First and foremost, nice bass. Secondly, I'm not interested in buying it. Thirdly, and the reason I'm writing a post is this: I've trawled through all this thread topic, and all the information about this bass is scattered over several posts. Maybe it might be better to relist the bass and get all the right information together, including good pictures at the very first post? So anyone interested doesn't have to read through 3+ pages of none related sale discussion Just a thought.
harveyn Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 Good day guys In addition to my Carl thompson piccolo, i have a Framus fretless semi acoustic (les paul shape), circa 1965 (i forgot i had it) in good condition, just wondered if anyone had any idea on its worth? Carl thompson still for sale(after now having had three dreamers let me down!)I had a deal with one and in the end daddy would not provide the funds...................great! Anyway i still want to sell, and maybe i have been a little optimistic on price, so if a significant price reduction brings more properly interested people into the fold, i will be more than happy to discuss. Harveyn
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