New Lakland 51P

[EssentialTension]

US only at the moment - read about them [url="http://www.lakland.com/44-51.htm"]here[/url].

[EBS_freak]

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='1072320' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:00 AM']

US only at the moment - read about them [url="http://www.lakland.com/44-51.htm"]here[/url].[/quote]

Unusual because I think that it works for all their other basses... but that headstock, for me at least, just doesn't work with that body...

[tonyf]

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='1072321' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:03 AM']Unusual because I think that it works for all their other basses... but that headstock, for me at least, just doesn't work with that body...[/quote]

Ooooooooooo no, it definitely works for me

Apart from the headstock, it looks as though they've ripped off the idea of the Fender Mike Dirnt. Which, having owned one, isn't a bad thing to do.

[KiOgon]

The bridge looks so wrong

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='tonyf' post='1072328' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:07 AM']Ooooooooooo no, it definitely works for me

Apart from the headstock, it looks as though they've ripped off the idea of the Fender Mike Dirnt. Which, having owned one, isn't a bad thing to do.[/quote]
I think the first (blonde translucent) in the picture is a 51 slab body with a single coil while the second (tobacco sunbust) is contoured with the split coil - like the Mike Dirnt. Personally I think I'd want the contours and the single coil. I imagine as it's a US they would do that if you asked.

Edited December 30, 2010 by EssentialTension

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='1072321' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:03 AM']Unusual because I think that it works for all their other basses... but that headstock, for me at least, just doesn't work with that body...[/quote]
It's usually the bridge that gets the complaints. Oh wait a minute ...

[quote name='KiOgon' post='1072337' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:10 AM']The bridge looks so wrong [/quote]

[tonyf]

[quote name='KiOgon' post='1072337' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:10 AM']The bridge looks so wrong [/quote]

Again, nooooooooooooooooooo! I love the oval bridge of the Laklands!

[KiOgon]

[quote name='tonyf' post='1072342' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:13 AM']Again, nooooooooooooooooooo! I love the oval bridge of the Laklands! [/quote]
It's like - we'll make it look just like Leo's 60 year old design, 'cos we can't beat it - but we'll stick with our quirky head & that stupid bridge

[Jean-Luc Pickguard]

A 5 string single coil one might be interesting

[Jigster]

[quote name='KiOgon' post='1072337' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:10 AM']The bridge looks so wrong [/quote]


+111111111111

[fender73]

Looking Good - great twist on a classic design

[bigthumb]

I have to agree that the bridge just dont look right, but I remember saying that about the first Lakland Jazz I owned!

[KiOgon]

[quote name='bigthumb' post='1072447' date='Dec 30 2010, 09:02 AM']I have to agree that the bridge just dont look right, but I remember saying that about the first Lakland Jazz I owned![/quote]
I can't see why they chose to fit a pick up cover when the matching bridge cover is never going to fit over that oval blob Why?

Oh dear, I looked at their price list [size=3]3,800.00 USD = 2,452.22 GBP [/size]

Edited December 30, 2010 by KiOgon

[alanbass1]

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='1072321' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:03 AM']Unusual because I think that it works for all their other basses... but that headstock, for me at least, just doesn't work with that body...[/quote]


I agree, I'd prefer the 'telecaster' style headstock any day

[bigthumb]

[quote name='KiOgon' post='1072454' date='Dec 30 2010, 09:13 AM']Oh dear, I looked at their price list [size=3]3,800.00 USD = 2,452.22 GBP [/size][/quote]



Stroof!

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='KiOgon' post='1072454' date='Dec 30 2010, 09:13 AM']I can't see why they chose to fit a pick up cover when the matching bridge cover is never going to fit over that oval blob Why?

Oh dear, I looked at their price list [size=3]3,800.00 USD = 2,452.22 GBP [/size][/quote]
That's MSRP. Street price would be more like $3,000. Still best to wait for the Skyline version.

I agree on the pick up cover but it will be optional.

Edited December 30, 2010 by EssentialTension

[KiOgon]

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='1072492' date='Dec 30 2010, 10:02 AM']That's MSRP. Street price would be more like $3,000. Still best to wait for the Skyline version.[/quote]
I'm not waiting for anything, just shocked at the price, I'm more than happy with my Fender MiJ '51 P

Still I don't suppose they're expecting to sell many

[EBS_freak]

[quote name='alanbass1' post='1072471' date='Dec 30 2010, 09:26 AM']I agree, I'd prefer the 'telecaster' style headstock any day[/quote]

Indeed! Not that I am a fan of this particular P bass shape anyway!

Edited December 30, 2010 by EBS_freak

[henry norton]

Is the '51 P the new super J????????????

[David Nimrod]

Why rehash an iconic Fender design, then compromise it with that bridge and headstock...

[b]Lakland: 'Get some Nuts' [/b]

[Ou7shined]

I don't mind the headstock, it is a Lakland and not a Fender after all but the bridge is just too outta wack for the design (not a big fan of Lakland bridges at the best of times).

Edited December 30, 2010 by Ou7shined

[merello]

Love it.

[machinehead]

I'm trying to think of a reason why someone would buy the Lakland 51 P over a Fender MIJ 51 P which is more true to the original look - especially at the Lakland price.

Each to their own though.

Frank.

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='machinehead' post='1072672' date='Dec 30 2010, 01:10 PM']I'm trying to think of a reason why someone would buy the Lakland 51 P over a Fender MIJ 51 P which is more true to the original look - especially at the Lakland price.

Each to their own though.

Frank.[/quote]
At US prices I wouldn't buy one either but some possible reasons for choosing one over the MIJ are:

(1) More money than sense.
(2) Better materials and build quality - e.g. quarter-sawn neck and graphite reinforcement bars.
(3) Available in eighteen different colours - and I guess they'd do any colour you wanted if you asked.
(4) Available with maple or rosewood fingerboard.
(5) Available fretted, lined fretless, or unlined fretless.
(6) Available in three different nut widths (1.5", 1.625", 1.75").
(7) Available with Swamp Ash or Alder body.
(8) Choice of slab or contoured body.
(9) Choice of single coil or split coil pickups.

[machinehead]

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='1072746' date='Dec 30 2010, 02:21 PM']At US prices I wouldn't buy one either but some possible reasons for choosing one over the MIJ are:

(1) More money than sense.
(2) Better materials and build quality - e.g. quarter-sawn neck and graphite reinforcement bars.
(3) Available in eighteen different colours - and I guess they'd do any colour you wanted if you asked.
(4) Available with maple or rosewood fingerboard.
(5) Available fretted, lined fretless, or unlined fretless.
(6) Available in three different nut widths (1.5", 1.625", 1.75").
(7) Available with Swamp Ash or Alder body.
(8) Choice of slab or contoured body.
(9) Choice of single coil or split coil pickups.[/quote]

Fair enough. Never thought of it like that. I am only refering to the 51 P though.

But even if you have as huge a range of choices as you do have, the price difference is also really huge plus the cost of offering those options doesn't mean anything to the buyer. He just buys a bass of his choice. The Lakland brand name adds value for lots of buyers too which is fine.

I'm not actually knocking them. I am certain they will sell in droves, but I wouldn't pay that money for what is essentially a very simple and basic instrument.

Frank.