scalpy Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Stick Dave Hood on the list as well! By the way if anyone can tell me who played Respect by Aretha Franklin that would be great, I've heard conflicting reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman Posted January 1, 2011 Author Share Posted January 1, 2011 [quote name='scalpy' post='1074715' date='Jan 1 2011, 08:19 PM']Stick Dave Hood on the list as well! By the way if anyone can tell me who played Respect by Aretha Franklin that would be great, I've heard conflicting reports.[/quote] i think it was tommy cogbill? i think he was the bass player on i never loved a man the way i loved you.....and lady soul albums.....but she often used several bassists....but im pretty sure its him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 [quote name='scalpy' post='1074715' date='Jan 1 2011, 08:19 PM']Stick Dave Hood on the list as well! By the way if anyone can tell me who played Respect by Aretha Franklin that would be great, I've heard conflicting reports.[/quote] I say Tommy Cogbill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1oopus Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) I share the same love for all those great players...Chuck Rainey, Gerald Jemmott, Carol Kaye, Tommy Cogbill, Bob Babbit... Jamerson was probably the baddest, but they all made significant contributions and basically invented an idiom that remains extremely influential to this day For Christams I treated myself to a fat Amazon order that included: [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/James-Brown-Step-Step-Techniques/dp/142345300X/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1295533688&sr=8-6"]http://www.amazon.co.uk/James-Brown-Step-S...3688&sr=8-6[/url] [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blues-Bass-Techniques-Builders/dp/0793581141/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295533712&sr=8-1"]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Blues-Bass-Techniq...3712&sr=8-1[/url] [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bass-Masters-Way-They-Play/dp/0879308699/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1295533712&sr=8-8"]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bass-Masters-Way-T...3712&sr=8-8[/url] If someone is interested I could give my feedback on them I would love books about Cogbill and (especially) Rainey Any pointer to good transcriptions of theirs would be amazing. Edited January 20, 2011 by 1oopus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 The only reason I can do as much work as I do is because I started by playing Blues, R&B and Soul. Everything stems from there and you can adapt to most types of music with these styles as your foundation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon. Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I've always loved listening to this kind of stuff, but for years and years whilst playing in originals bands I went to great lengths to avoided playing any covers, particularly music I was a fan of in case of spoiling it for myself. Recently I've started getting into playing a raft of 60's Soul/R&B stuff just for fun, and have found out how great it is, how much fun it is to play and how much influence it has had on more modern bass playing styles. Kind of kicking myself for not trying it earlier! Desperately trying to get together a working function band doing this stuff, but it's proving hard to get the right folks to commit to it. Getting there, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetheblues Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 What you all say!! This music and style of playing is why I took up the bass to start with. LOVE this stuff!! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brookesy13 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Just wondering if the R&B Bass Masters book is in TAB? Cheers for any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthomp Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 YUP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1oopus Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 [quote name='Brookesy13' post='1098036' date='Jan 21 2011, 09:02 PM']Just wondering if the R&B Bass Masters book is in TAB? Cheers for any help.[/quote] Yes R&B Bass masters does have notation and tabs also. Here's a sample of how it looks exactly (courtesy of bassbooks.com) [url="http://www.gswsftp01.com/bassbooks/samples/HL/HL226X03.pdf"]http://www.gswsftp01.com/bassbooks/samples/HL/HL226X03.pdf[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brookesy13 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='1oopus' post='1101348' date='Jan 24 2011, 08:48 PM']Yes R&B Bass masters does have notation and tabs also. Here's a sample of how it looks exactly (courtesy of bassbooks.com) [url="http://www.gswsftp01.com/bassbooks/samples/HL/HL226X03.pdf"]http://www.gswsftp01.com/bassbooks/samples/HL/HL226X03.pdf[/url][/quote] Thanks man. Looks like I will be getting it soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithless Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I kinda tend to think, that lots of folks rate those RnB cats (Jamerson, Rainey, etc..) high, because lots of their lines are 'challenging', they are busy and so on, and that's cool, but, on the other hand, by listening to Jamerson, the first thing that springs in my mind, is that he overplayed awfully.. My point is, that, I think it's kinda bad at some point, when people start learning from these cats, learn those busy lines, but, when it comes to lay down a really [i]simple [/i]groove, we're facing problems then.. Though, if you really want to get into some player/style, I honestly reccomend - forget all these fake books, like Ed's "RnB Masters' and so on. That book is just a bunch of favourite licks/riffs, that don't really make sense in the long run. I can't stress enough getting the Real thing - get the actual records that those cats played on, transcribe them, and learn them. There isn't any other way really, than just surround yourself with that music, and get the most out of it by listening/transcribing/playing. hope this helps Faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1oopus Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='Faithless' post='1101976' date='Jan 25 2011, 01:23 PM']I kinda tend to think, that lots of folks rate those RnB cats (Jamerson, Rainey, etc..) high, because lots of their lines are 'challenging', they are busy and so on, and that's cool, but, on the other hand, by listening to Jamerson, the first thing that springs in my mind, is that he overplayed awfully..[/quote] Good point, I agree. Playing in the fully formed, busy Jamerson style is, in most real-life playing settings, simply impossible. What you can learn is, for example, his use of syncopation and chromatic approaches, and then apply it them in subtler ways. Friedland book is in my humble opinion is a useful one. There's historical background, pointers on sound and techniques, a selected discography for each player... Seeing the rhythmic figures and patterns on the staff helps understanding a few stylistic hallmarks of these great players. To me, it works great as introduction to the R&B idiom, even though it clearly can't replace listening and transcribing the actual tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzy Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 +1 for David Hood,he seems to be overlooked in these type of discussions. Check him here... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_nwbTeIN4Y"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_nwbTeIN4Y[/url] playing with his long time partner on drums Roger Hawkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slobluesine Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 yup.. Tommy Cogbill was one funky white mother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) I prefer David Hood, another Precision player by the way, back in his Muscle Shoals roots: Edited January 26, 2011 by chris_b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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