Superman000 Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) Hey, Was using another bass forum ( wont name names ) But didnt get a reply as quickly as i hoped ! So thought this looked like a good place to ask for help ! Im 15 been playing bass for a year now and finally saved up enough money to have a Behringer Ultrabass BX4500H head with a 1x15 BB115 and a 2x10 BB210 behringer cab. Then it got stolen ! and I was wondering if you had any ideas that would help me decide on a new head and cabs. Iv got around £700 but if youve got any better ideas i could get more money. I play in a four piece medium rock band, some heavy stuff some not ! I was looking for something with enough power for a medium sized venue but with a decent sound. But something that i wont have to fiddle with when we move to bigger venues not huge but bigger. I like the sound and style that Dan Haigh from fightstar gets. So anything that remotely sounds like him is great ! Just wanted to know if youve got any ideas or advice. Iv only been playing a year so still dont understand a lot of bass talk ! So id appreciate it if youd reply simply so i can make a decent choice ! Also if there is anything that you think is complicated could you please explain ! Thanks hope your more help than the other forum ! Edited January 20, 2008 by Superman000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythSte Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Well! Firstly welcome to basschat, i think you'll like it here! Secondly, £700 should put you in good stead for a very nice amp! Especially if you look at some of the second hand deals on the forum. I dont know the bassist you mentioned, but i know Fightstar ish, and if i remember correctly they have quite a grindy tone. So something with a tube in the pre-amp might be a good place to start (you can overdrive tubes to get a bit of mild distortion) I think my immediate suggestion would be some Hartke gear. Frequently come up second hand for great prices (Make sure its the XL series cabs, not the TP/Transporter) Heavy, but full of tone. And most of the heads have tube pre's. If your unsure about anything we'll be more than happy to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman000 Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) Thanks thats better than any advice iv ever had !!!! Looked at the hartke stuff all looks ace but what size would you recommend ? Not going for hartke yet but they all look awesome ! This is gonna sound hell of a stupid but whats a pre amp is it just the head ? Edited January 20, 2008 by Superman000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythSte Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) A pre amp is the section the bass signal passes through before it gets amplified. So In most bass heads you have your EQ section in the pre-amp (Bass, mid, Treble etc) then you have your output. I think this wouldnt be a bad place to start [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/hartke_3500a_bass_top.htm"]Hartke 3500a[/url] ir the more powerful [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/hartke_5500_basshead.htm"]Hartke 5500a[/url] That would leave you with the best part of £400 for cabs (speakers) in which case... [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/hartke_45xl.htm"]Hartke 4.5 XL[/url] I know Dood among others on this forum swear by these cabs if it wernt for there weight! But your a strong young thing im sure, so yeah! Edited January 20, 2008 by ste_m3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman000 Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 Thanks for the advice ! Another newbie question but what do ohms stand for is it like watts or something ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythSte Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) In a word, no! Theres an Ohms sticky at the top of the amps sub forum i think. But in short, If your amp can run at 4ohms minimum (Which is the way most work) You can have 2 8 ohm cabs, or one 4 ohm cab. If an amp is 300watts, It will use all three hundred watts into a 4ohm cab, or two 8 ohm cabs. But will only run at about three quarters of that with one 8 ohm cab. Its a lot to take in at first! But its easy to get your head round after a while edit - Wiki here [url="http://wiki.basschat.co.uk/info:amps:impedance_and_wattage"]impedence/ohms[/url] Edited January 20, 2008 by ste_m3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman000 Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) Thanks again ! I was looking at more hartke gear and saw the HA4000 head with a VX 210 and VX 410 ! IM not sure what sizes while give me best range and i dont think i'll get enough out of those two together. What sizes should i get for a good overall range of lows and highs ? Edited January 20, 2008 by Superman000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Dont waste your money on any more Behringer. Look at the for sale's on here. I know its cool to put your location as "my mini room" but it does not tell anyone that might be local. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman000 Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 (edited) Hah ! good point ! i'll go change it now ! What should i look out for on here if i want a grindy but also changeable sound ? Still wondering about the whole size issue as well ? Edited January 20, 2008 by Superman000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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