Soliloquy Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I'm looking to replace my 2x10 Acme to a couple of 1x12's. I'm thinking of Bergantino, Markbass, Bag End, Epifani. I play mostly 6 string bass, so I want something that'll go deep. It must be fairly flat and uncoloured. I'm not interested in the Bareface cabs, or Aguilar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Just out of interest why those particular 4 and not the BF or Aggie? I could understand if the BF and Aggie had a similar sound which you dislike but they are absolutely poles apart in terms of tone and the Aggies aren't a million miles apart from some of the cabs you've shortlisted! Each to his own and I'm not plugging the Aggies in any way, I know that they won't suit everybody, but I am interested in the 'why' of your shortlist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soliloquy Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='warwickhunt' post='1098789' date='Jan 22 2011, 04:15 PM']Just out of interest why those particular 4 and not the BF or Aggie? I could understand if the BF and Aggie had a similar sound which you dislike but they are absolutely poles apart in terms of tone and the Aggies aren't a million miles apart from some of the cabs you've shortlisted! Each to his own and I'm not plugging the Aggies in any way, I know that they won't suit everybody, but I am interested in the 'why' of your shortlist.[/quote] I want something flat and uncoloured, so I haven't got to EQ out something I don't like, or add something. I've had Aguilar GS112's in the past, they're very mid scooped, and the DB cabs have a mid bump. I've seen a couple of the BF cabs, and wasn't impressed with the build. Both people who owned them had had to contact the guy about something. That's not something I want from a cab that's far from cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I see! I thought the dismissal of the two cab manufacturers was due to tone and they are very different, hence my curiosity. Again I'm not pushing/pimping the DBs but I don't find that they have such a mid bump (with my amp flat) at least not as much mid as others cabs I've tried with my amp (Schroeder cabs and Bergantino 10's spring to mind as being more mid biased than Aggie DBs) but neither would I say the DBs are uncoloured, so agree they may not suit you. Best of luck finding what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 You've ruled out the only other cabs I'd recommend, so I'd say Bergantino. You're not far from Bass Direct. I'd go in and try out the AE112 and the HT112ER cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Budget? Roughly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soliloquy Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 £500 per cab I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 You can do "Takeaway" at BD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Hmm, at that price id definitely try as many as possible. Test the Berg, see if you like it. Plenty of other options, although as mentioned id probably also recommend trying GS112s or DB112s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 [quote name='Soliloquy' post='1098882' date='Jan 22 2011, 05:29 PM']£500 per cab I guess.[/quote] Barefaced compact T A 1x15 with a tweeter, under £500, will be lighter and louder than any single 1x12 I use a single midget. In 80% of situations it's plenty loud enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Purple Chili PCB112NT could be an option. I got one and lime it very much. Light and loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBod Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 If buying new, I'd be looking at either a Berg or the EA Mline wizzy. I am probably one of the two who put you off the Barefaced option.....so I should say that a few weeks/gigs later I'm very happy with the midget for all my current work, but having to send it back straight out the box was a complete pain. I'd describe the sound as pretty flat, with a hint of a more traditional voicing (but nothing like older SWR/Eden etc). I'd also consider Bag End - again a bit "voiced", but in a good way, and there is a co-ax option (for one of a pair, maybe?). They are a bit heavy compared to current designs. Happy hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbass1 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Bergantino HT/EX combination - well worth the money and the best speakers I have ever owned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soliloquy Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 It seems that Acme now do a 12". [url="http://www.acmebass.com/"]http://www.acmebass.com/[/url] I've emailed Andy Lewis to ask about shipping . Thanks for all of your replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SisterAbdullahX Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 [quote name='chris_b' post='1098886' date='Jan 22 2011, 05:30 PM']You can do "Takeaway" at BD![/quote] Not on amps and cabs you can't, only instruments, believe me, I've asked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithless Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Take a look at Genz Benz cabs. They're stupidly light and loud. I have one myself, and they're really modern sounding, though they don't color sound as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soliloquy Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 I didn't think about the Acme B1, that's another option. See, what I want is a couple of small cabs. I can use one for small gigs, and both for larger ones. I was thinking 12" cabs, mainly because of the better bass response, but the Acme B1 would be great. Once again, thanks everyone for your replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SisterAbdullahX Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 [quote name='Musicman20' post='1098889' date='Jan 22 2011, 05:36 PM']Hmm, at that price id definitely try as many as possible. Test the Berg, see if you like it. Plenty of other options, although as mentioned id probably also recommend trying GS112s or DB112s.[/quote] Also the Euphonic Audio Wizzy 12 or M Line 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambo Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 [quote name='sk8' post='1099383' date='Jan 23 2011, 10:24 AM']Purple Chili PCB112NT could be an option. I got one and lime it very much. Light and loud [/quote] In the spirit that people just tend to recommend what they use, if you get the chance, I'd suggest you try the Purple Chili 12's aswell. Don't know how flat they are, but they're certainly light, loud and well made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 [quote name='Prime_BASS' post='1099374' date='Jan 23 2011, 10:16 AM']Barefaced compact T A 1x15 with a tweeter, under £500, will be lighter and louder than any single 1x12 I use a single midget. In 80% of situations it's plenty loud enough.[/quote] I got confused at some point. There is either compact, midget or midget T. Either way they will no doubt be lighter, louder and cheaper than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiegrungesound Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 This might be a bit pointless, but I'd thought I'd have may say. I think it all depends on what head you are using. If your head puts out less than 300 watts @ 8 ohms, then any 12" cab with Celestion Neo drivers (Purple Chillis and Warwick Neo Pros-Yes. I AM giving props to my cabs again! ;-)) will do the job. If your head puts out more than 300 watts @ 8 ohms-because you did say that you were planning to use just one for tiny gigs- then I'd go for broke and get a Bergantino due to the power handling specs. No idea what Hartke's HyDrive 12" are like, whilst you could always e-mail to folks @ Matamp for something bespoke & retro. They also let use choose between Celestion & Eminence speakers. Hope that helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) I haven't seen a bass player not make some kind of Oooo sound after plucking the first few notes through a bergantino! I do know that the Genz Benz cabs are clearer as far a colouring sound than both the bergs and the purple chilis I have A B'd them with 4 other bass chatters present who all agreed for once! Bergantino 1x12 FTW though I think. Watch this space....... Edited January 24, 2011 by stingrayPete1977 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 [quote name='Prime_BASS' post='1100011' date='Jan 23 2011, 07:47 PM']I got confused at some point. There is either compact, midget or midget T. Either way they will no doubt be lighter, louder and cheaper than most.[/quote] Did you not bother to read the original post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbass1 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 [quote name='indiegrungesound' post='1100061' date='Jan 23 2011, 08:21 PM']This might be a bit pointless, but I'd thought I'd have may say. I think it all depends on what head you are using. If your head puts out less than 300 watts @ 8 ohms, then any 12" cab with Celestion Neo drivers (Purple Chillis and Warwick Neo Pros-Yes. I AM giving props to my cabs again! ;-)) will do the job. If your head puts out more than 300 watts @ 8 ohms-because you did say that you were planning to use just one for tiny gigs- then I'd go for broke and get a Bergantino due to the power handling specs. No idea what Hartke's HyDrive 12" are like, whilst you could always e-mail to folks @ Matamp for something bespoke & retro. They also let use choose between Celestion & Eminence speakers. Hope that helps![/quote] I would go for ceramic's over neo - especially on a 1x12 as they are so portable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 [quote name='alanbass1' post='1101381' date='Jan 24 2011, 09:06 PM']I would go for ceramic's over neo - especially on a 1x12 as they are so portable.[/quote] I tend to agree although you should audition both to see what magnet type you prefer - of course, not all speakers and manufacturers sound the same so it depends upon how much you want to go into it all. The weight saving in cabs is more down to what the cab is made out of rather than the speaker itself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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