andy67 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 My next purchse this year will be an 8x10! kinda want an ampeg but the abm 8x10 looks, reads and sounds amazing and...its only £600 delivered! anybody got any experience with these or input on this? cheers andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nimrod Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 What head are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 trace elliot v4 and/or ampeg svt 3pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nash Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 i'd go for the ampeg over the ashdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nimrod Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 [quote name='nash' post='126332' date='Jan 23 2008, 05:53 PM']i'd go for the ampeg over the ashdown.[/quote] what are the 'sound' differences, all other things being equal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nash Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 well the abm non neo 8x10 is smaller but heavier. it has less bass response. i personally prefer the ampeg and my marshall. the just sound bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I seem to recollect reading somewhere that between an Ampeg, Ashdown and a Marshall, it was actually the Marshall that sounded the best in a shoot out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nash Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 i do love the sound of my marshall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Bergantino 6x10 would probably eat all of these cabs I would think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nash Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 thats why wanna try one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Also - deoends if you want your HF horns. That may influence you somewhat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peted Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I wouldn't buy any 8x10 until Hartke have released their new HyDrive 8x10 cab. The spec sounds very interesting on paper, and if Hartke maintain their great pricing strategy it'll be even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 [quote name='dood' post='126359' date='Jan 23 2008, 06:50 PM']I seem to recollect reading somewhere that between an Ampeg, Ashdown and a Marshall, it was actually the Marshall that sounded the best in a shoot out..[/quote] Marshall really!! I use a 410 Marshall with my Hartke 410, oooo..... I have to say it....I can't stand the Marshall If you remember where you caught that dood, will you let us know mate ? wouldn't mind reading that. Cheers Jase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nash Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 the 8x10 is far better than a marshall 4x10 ive tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 morning folks.. thanks for all the input, some very interesting reading... had a look around for a Marshall 8x10 but could not gather enough info in order to get an overall picture but will seek further..... I have played through an ashdown mag 810 deep which was ok standing next to it but walk around ten feet away and you lose it!! The newer abm 810 has had a lot of cool reviews and they are UK made - spoke with ashdown they have a limited number in stock - but have never tried it! All fingers appear to be pointing at the ampeg 810 as all reviews say this is the 810 to own!? however as I am turning 41 will my back hold out? am I still fit enough to lug it about? am I gigging enough? it may just be a little crisis I am going through but I seem to really fancy one! bugger..... cheers andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nimrod Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 [quote name='andy67' post='126671' date='Jan 24 2008, 09:17 AM']however as I am turning 41... it may just be a little crisis I am going through but I seem to really fancy one![/quote] Maybe getting an 8 x 10 is the bass equivalent of buying a Harley (at our age!). I'd love one (an 8 x 10 that is), and I've done the Harley thing in my youth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 (edited) [quote name='andy67' post='126671' date='Jan 24 2008, 09:17 AM']morning folks.. thanks for all the input, some very interesting reading... had a look around for a Marshall 8x10 but could not gather enough info in order to get an overall picture but will seek further..... I have played through an ashdown mag 810 deep which was ok standing next to it but walk around ten feet away and you lose it!! The newer abm 810 has had a lot of cool reviews and they are UK made - spoke with ashdown they have a limited number in stock - but have never tried it! All fingers appear to be pointing at the ampeg 810 as all reviews say this is the 810 to own!? however as I am turning 41 will my back hold out? am I still fit enough to lug it about? am I gigging enough? it may just be a little crisis I am going through but I seem to really fancy one! bugger..... cheers andy[/quote] I have to admit a Neo 6x10 will give you anywhere from 90% - 110% of the performance of the 8x10's that you've ementioned @ 50% of the weight... you know it makes sense! Total weight of cab (2100 watt) and amp (1000 watt) 38kg. Certainly saves this old man's back Edited January 24, 2008 by warwickhunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 [quote name='warwickhunt' post='126680' date='Jan 24 2008, 09:30 AM']I have to admit a Neo 6x10 will give you anywhere from 90% - 110% of the performance of the 8x10's that you've ementioned @ 50% of the weight... you know it makes sense! Total weight of cab (2100 watt) and amp (1000 watt) 38kg. Certainly saves this old man's back [/quote] Sod it. Get 4 2x10s. Your back will thank you. Make sure you get the right impedance though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 I know, i know.... cheers for the morning laugh folks! found this: [url="http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~Marshall-MBC810~ID~7642.asp"]http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~M...810~ID~7642.asp[/url] any input would be cool ta andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 [quote name='andy67' post='126736' date='Jan 24 2008, 10:45 AM']I know, i know.... cheers for the morning laugh folks! found this: [url="http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~Marshall-MBC810~ID~7642.asp"]http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~M...810~ID~7642.asp[/url] any input would be cool ta andy[/quote] Thats a good price. Thomanns are coming in at 540ish so in my book, I reckon that's a pretty good deal! Have you test drove any cabs yet? I still reckon you are making a mistake though... 4 2x10s, 2 4x10s I would say were a lot more useful than an 8x10... The transportation issues... and also, if you are playing a smaller gig and you turn up with an 8x10 you aren't going to be a popular guy. That's just me though. What would I know? My experience is as follows - I've gone from 2 4x10s, to 1 4x10, to 2 2x10s. To me, lots of small cabs to me makes more sense, especially the 4 2x10s. Big gigs, take all your cabs, small gigs, rehearsing, just take the 1 2x10.) Of course, having an amp that goes down to 2 ohms helps. I can fit my two 2x10s in the boot of my car. I couldn't get the 4x10 without taking the seats down. But I have to admit, 8x10s do look cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 hey..hey.. I have two ampeg b410hlf's....but cannot use them as an 810 because they are both 4ohm (making it a 2ohm load) my amps do max 4ohm! I have bought leads and boxes allowing for series connection but it does not appear to work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 I have just had a talking to in regards to ohms, load and series, I am now a fud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 [quote name='andy67' post='126820' date='Jan 24 2008, 12:27 PM']hey..hey.. I have two ampeg b410hlf's....but cannot use them as an 810 because they are both 4ohm (making it a 2ohm load) my amps do max 4ohm! I have bought leads and boxes allowing for series connection but it does not appear to work well.[/quote] Hey dude! Ah, this ohm thing can be a right pain in the rear at times... Yeah, if your amp is expecting a 4ohm load, you won't get the maximum out of those cabs. Nightmare huh? Hmm. If you can manage the size of it, go for the 810 - just make sure you audition them before dropping the wedge! Good luck with it all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 get a 6X15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashevans09 Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Do they exist?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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