Bassassin Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='skej21' post='1134613' date='Feb 20 2011, 06:27 PM']Are you sure you want to take a risk on a bass that, in truth, you'll probably not have in 6 months because it'll be in a skip somewhere? [/quote] Investment potential! I've got a big loft, nice & damp. I can bung it up there for 10 years and when it comes out, it 'll be nicely mildewed, warped & unplayable (so I won't need to get my sander & blowtorch out), then I can Ebay it for loads of dosh. All it'll cost me is a couple of bob for a nice Fender transfer. And a Custom Shop one for round the back, obviously. Pays to think ahead. J. Quote
lemmywinks Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='mcnach' post='1134596' date='Feb 20 2011, 06:12 PM']Do it, and I will buy the Overwater for £60, so I can make judgements from first hand experience [/quote] Why bother, just google a picture of one and read an internet thread, that will tell you all you need to know! Actually having experience of something before having an opinion really isn't required. They're sh1t basses mate, i would steer well clear if i were you. I saw a pic of one once and could tell immediately that it wasn't up to the job. There's no way a bass could be playable if it was made to those prices. By "playable" i mean having an action of 3mm or under as it's impossible to play a bass with it any higher unless you're some sort of clueless thicko. Which as you're contemplating buying one of these i can immediately tell you are. Have to cut this post short as i have some new imaginary opinions to think up about some other instruments i have never played and have absolutely no knowledge of. Toodle pip! Quote
Grand Wazoo Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 Can we put this thread to sleep? Why are you all bickering, I don't understand. The way I see it people are entitled to spend their pennies how they wish. If a £60 bass is available for sale you would buy with the understanding that it is a bodged job and not a Stradivarius, that you either make do with it or try it to improve it within reasons. After all we all know you can't polish a turd but... from a charitable point of view Sue Ryder is indeed a charity and when you buy their cheap basses or guitar, your purchase will have contributed to saving a life or making life better for terminally ill people You have made a difference for someone, and that is all that matters. Maybe you all need to be reminded who and what Sue Ryder does: [i][b]Sue Ryder Care supports people with specialist palliative, end of life and long-term neurological care needs. Each year they provide 4 million hours of care to people living with cancer, multiple sclerosis, Huntington's disease, Parkinson's disease, motor neurone disease, stroke and brain injury.[/b][/i] Quote
Muzz Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 Let's not forget they also sell 'cheap and nasty' basses, which no-one will ever gig. Or so we've been told by someone who should know better. Come back to this thread in a year's time and Oh, I can't be bothered. Quote
skankdelvar Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Grand Wazoo' post='1134674' date='Feb 20 2011, 07:09 PM']Why are you all bickering, I don't understand.[/quote] Because this is BC and there hasn't been a [i]proper [/i]row for a few days. Tension is rising. The vultures are circling. Hate is bulging like a man's bicep. And so forth. [quote name='Grand Wazoo' post='1134674' date='Feb 20 2011, 07:09 PM']Maybe you all need to be reminded who and what Sue Ryder does[/quote] Indeed and very much the point. A fine charity doing excellent work. I've only skimmed this thread; has anyone mentioned the Group Captain Leonard Cheshire VC connection yet? Edited February 20, 2011 by skankdelvar Quote
lemmywinks Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='Grand Wazoo' post='1134674' date='Feb 20 2011, 07:09 PM']Can we put this thread to sleep? Why are you all bickering, I don't understand.[/quote] Well not really, it's handy to have it open so people can post pics of their modded basses and mention any issues they may have or reccommend which parts work well with the basses. If someone comes on the thread to troll then that's their perogative, but not really what the thread is about. Quote
Muzz Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='lemmywinks' post='1134687' date='Feb 20 2011, 07:25 PM']If someone comes on the thread to troll then that's their perogative, but not really what the thread is about.[/quote] I'd kinda thought that trolling wasn't what BC was about (occasional new and mostly short-lived visitors aside), but I've been disappointed by this one. Quote
Ancient Mariner Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='skankdelvar' post='1134686' date='Feb 20 2011, 07:24 PM']Because this is BC and there hasn't been a [i]proper [/i]row for a few days. Tension is rising. The vultures are circling. Hate is bulging like a man's bicep.[/quote] I'm have suggested it bulges more like a woman's breast, ready to make a right tit of the hater. Quote
ahpook Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='Grand Wazoo' post='1134674' date='Feb 20 2011, 07:09 PM']Can we put this thread to sleep? Why are you all bickering, I don't understand. The way I see it people are entitled to spend their pennies how they wish. If a £60 bass is available for sale you would buy with the understanding that it is a bodged job and not a Stradivarius, that you either make do with it or try it to improve it within reasons. After all we all know you can't polish a turd but... from a charitable point of view Sue Ryder is indeed a charity and when you buy their cheap basses or guitar, your purchase will have contributed to saving a life or making life better for terminally ill people You have made a difference for someone, and that is all that matters. Maybe you all need to be reminded who and what Sue Ryder does: [i][b]Sue Ryder Care supports people with specialist palliative, end of life and long-term neurological care needs. Each year they provide 4 million hours of care to people living with cancer, multiple sclerosis, Huntington's disease, Parkinson's disease, motor neurone disease, stroke and brain injury.[/b][/i][/quote] /standing ovation/ Quote
Kev Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 Endless argument, this. At the end of the day, the Ryder bass owners are correct in berating JTUK for talking down about a bass he has never tried. JTUK has a point by saying you are getting what you pay for (regardless what you people think of it, you are getting a cheaply built bass from budget materials), and has been rounded on here because he has insulted several people's new toy. Live and let live? Quote
Musicman20 Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) Compare the CV Squiers and SR Bass. There are obviously massive differences, but when it comes down to it, we should just buy what we want. £300 vs £60? If you truly want a budget bass, get the £60 one and spend the rest on a more expensive bass. The problem I see is anyone expecting these basses to be worth anything. They wont...they will be worth about £60 second hand! The Squier CVs? Yes, apparently they are going to rise in value, but I dont fall for the 'MIJ/Squier CV etc etc' price rise. They are great, as are the MIJ basses, but they still dont do it like the real thing. Mod it, and there we have it, (or if you have the MIJ with USA pups and bought it for a good price!). I wanted a CV P and J JUST for dirty gigs, and I dont mean rough bars, I mean ROUGH gigs. Hardcore punk is very very fun to play live and the audience get involved both onstage and off. So, I wanted a P I could literally not care about. If I spent £300 on a CV P, its still a nice bass, and £300. £60? Its £60....thats it! The rest I would have spent on the CV is going towards my proper gear. Edited February 20, 2011 by Musicman20 Quote
JTUK Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='Bassassin' post='1134514' date='Feb 20 2011, 04:55 PM']So you are still taking the "if it's cheap it has to be sh!t" line. Does it therefore follow that "if it's expensive it will be good, no question"? J.[/quote] No. Quote
Bassassin Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 Any danger you'd be prepared to expand on what appears to be a massive self-contradiction? Oh - let me guess... No? J. Quote
Muzz Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='Kev' post='1134760' date='Feb 20 2011, 08:21 PM']Endless argument, this. At the end of the day, the Ryder bass owners are correct in berating JTUK for talking down about a bass he has never tried. JTUK has a point by saying you are getting what you pay for (regardless what you people think of it, you are getting a cheaply built bass from budget materials), and has been rounded on here because he has insulted several people's new toy.[/quote] Nope, nothing to do with insulting toys (in fact there's another thread here where I'm (effectively) insulting my own, much more expensive toy's looks, so it's not the sort of thing which upsets me, strokes for folks, etc) and I'm a fervent believer that opinions are like arseholes, I'm just deeply allergic to reading baseless opinions stated as fact, when I have personal experience to the contrary. It happened a while ago when some other arse tried to tell people they couldn't get a particular sound from a particular amp, (despite having never tried for himself) and he even went as far as to tell anyone who disagreed that they were 'kidding themselves'. This hasn't sunk to those depths, but it's far from pleasant. There have been plenty of conciliatory posts from SR owners acknowledging the limitations of the basses, but some people are very, very keen to insist others experiences are wrong. Possibly trolling for the sake of it (and Lord knows that's tiresome enough), possibly not. We'll see. Quote
JTUK Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Bassassin' post='1134818' date='Feb 20 2011, 09:12 PM']Any danger you'd be prepared to expand on what appears to be a massive self-contradiction? Oh - let me guess... No? J.[/quote] what contradiction..? I never said the equation was that simple. Where did I say all expensive basses are good? That wouldn't be an assumption of yours, would it? Quote
tarcher Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 This thread is getting really boring now. Quote
setekh Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='tarcher' post='1134990' date='Feb 21 2011, 12:32 AM']This thread is getting really boring now.[/quote] +1 Quote
zzaass Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 [attachment=72856:IMG_1173_50.jpg] For all those in doubt. Mine feel[color="#C0C0C0"]s[/color] very nice to play with! Quote
Bassassin Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='JTUK' post='1134981' date='Feb 21 2011, 12:18 AM']what contradiction..? I never said the equation was that simple. Where did I say all expensive basses are good? That wouldn't be an assumption of yours, would it?[/quote] In what way is it an assumption? I said this: [quote]So you are still taking the "if it's cheap it has to be sh!t" line. Does it therefore follow that "if it's expensive it will be good, no question"?[/quote] It's plainly a question. If you'd expand a little on your answers & your reasons for holding your opinions, this discussion might actually become a bit more stimulating & productive than the monosyllabic contradiction it's largely been reduced to. So tell me - if you do hold the opinion that it's inevitable a cheap bass must be rubbish, why does it not follow that a dear one will be good? Why is that somehow less black & white? J. Quote
Bassassin Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 Nah - think I'll give up on this one, it's no place for logic & rational thinking. Too much like banging your head against a brick [s]troll[/s] wall. J. Quote
Ou7shined Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Bassassin' post='1135201' date='Feb 21 2011, 10:38 AM']Nah - think I'll give up on this one, [b]it's no place for logic & rational thinking.[/b] Too much like banging your head against a brick [s]troll[/s] wall. J.[/quote] Couldn't agree with you more. Quote
nick Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='tarcher' post='1134990' date='Feb 21 2011, 12:32 AM']This thread is getting really boring now.[/quote] +1 It started off as a good fun thread with people talking about their new bargain bass; how it plays, what it sounds like, what they might do to mod it , personalise it etc... quite innocuos really, as per the title 'Sue Ryder Bass Arrived' Just a pity it got derailed by a bored troll. Quote
Ou7shined Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='nick' post='1135858' date='Feb 21 2011, 05:36 PM']+1 It started off as a good fun thread with people talking about their new bargain bass; how it plays, what it sounds like, what they might do to mod it , personalise it etc... quite innocuos really, as per the title 'Sue Ryder Bass Arrived' Just a pity it got derailed by a bored troll. [/quote] For some, it jumped the shark way before that. Quote
mcnach Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='Bassassin' post='1135201' date='Feb 21 2011, 10:38 AM']Nah - think I'll give up on this one, it's no place for logic & rational thinking. Too much like banging your head against a brick [s]troll[/s] wall. J.[/quote] Would I have bought a SR P-bass [1] if this were about logic and rational thinking? [1] Or three, for that matter... when I have often stated I don't like P-basses! Quote
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