Owen Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Now THAT would be irresistible! [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=732771"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=732771[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protium Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I'm struggling to see what difference it would make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 [quote name='Protium' post='1108573' date='Jan 30 2011, 07:58 PM']I'm struggling to see what difference it would make?[/quote] 20Lbs ish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protium Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 [quote name='owen' post='1109956' date='Jan 31 2011, 07:50 PM']20Lbs ish?[/quote] I mean in real life terms such as sound reproduction in a live scenario. Anyone can carry a 25kg cab, no need to make it lighter especially when you consider the cost of the material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 31, 2011 Author Share Posted January 31, 2011 The theory is that sonically it would not make a great deal of difference. I just like the idea of lifting less. My present cab is 80+ lbs so less really is more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShergoldSnickers Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) At a guess – and it is a complete guess – you may need to look again at the bracing. It will flex in a different manner to ply, setting up resonances in different areas of the sound spectrum. Far easier to trial and error a design with ply than Nidacore I'd think, and there's another possible big difference really – ply looks so much easier to work with. Could be wrong though. It's certainly an interesting material, and just out of curiosity I'd love to hear a Big One made from it. Got me thinking about domestic Hi-Fi- speakers or studio monitors now. Wonder if they do a transparent version of Nidacore? Edit: typo Edited February 1, 2011 by ShergoldSnickers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dincz Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name='Protium' post='1110018' date='Jan 31 2011, 09:19 PM']Anyone can carry a 25kg cab[/quote] With a head and a bass and a bag of effects and cables up 3 flights of stairs in one trip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 The bracing thing seems to have been addresed in the thread I pointed to, but then again, it is all Greek to me. I just like the idea of carrying less weight [quote name='ShergoldSnickers' post='1110589' date='Feb 1 2011, 07:56 AM']At a guess – and it is a complete guess – you may need to look again at the bracing. It will flex in a different manner to ply, setting up resonances in different areas of the sound spectrum. Far easier to trial and error a design with ply than Nidacore I'd think, and there's another possible big difference really – ply looks so much easier to work with. Could be wrong though. It's certainly an interesting material, and just out of curiosity I'd love to hear a Big One made from it. Got me thinking about domestic Hi-Fi- speakers or studio monitors now. Wonder if they do a transparent version of Nidacore? Edit: typo[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Nice concept, should work well! I would suggest that the Big One was sufficiently light that the size was the bigger issue - 41lbs isn't exactly hard work to move. I'd also suggest that if you're using a double bass the Big Baby is going to be easily loud enough - give it some real power and it kicks out as much bottom as a good 4x10" - which takes the weight down to 33lbs and it's much smaller too. As cool as a transparent cab would be in theory, you have to take into account that any properly designed cab will be thoroughly lined with damping material, which isn't terribly pretty. Like having a transparent ceiling in your upstairs rooms - do you really want an unhindered view of your loft insulation? The exception is long folded horn subs - they don't need damping because the folds act as a lowpass filter, and they would look really cool with all that complicated enclosure on show! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protium Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name='dincz' post='1110673' date='Feb 1 2011, 09:38 AM']With a head and a bass and a bag of effects and cables up 3 flights of stairs in one trip?[/quote] Done, WA1 in Warrington on two separate occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumnote Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Heres a composite Jack 12 on the BFM site, lovely bit of work [url="http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=12984&start=60"]http://billfitzmaurice.info/forum/viewtopi...84&start=60[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) I had a 1212L once which was around 25kg, and yeah, it was fairly easy to shift with head and bass at the same time, even up stairs. For me, that is, not everyone can carry the same amount comfortably of course. Would I have liked it to be half the weight again? Er, yes! Who wants to carry weight if you don't have to? Edited February 1, 2011 by Wil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name='Wil' post='1111301' date='Feb 1 2011, 05:23 PM']I had a 1212L once which was around 25kg, and yeah, it was fairly easy to shift with head and bass at the same time, even up stairs. For me, that is, not everyone can carry the same amount comfortably of course. Would I have liked it to be half the weight again? Er, yes! Who wants to carry weight if you don't have to?[/quote] If all goes to plan, there'll be a BFM cab at RS to have a go with soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='1111306' date='Feb 1 2011, 05:26 PM']If all goes to plan, there'll be a BFM cab at RS to have a go with soon.[/quote] Interesting! It'll have to be seriously good to compete with my 410L mind, this thing is the absolute balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name='alexclaber' post='1111030' date='Feb 1 2011, 02:15 PM']I'd also suggest that if you're using a double bass the Big Baby is going to be easily loud enough[/quote] That's cool, but sometimes I like to rock out with my bass guitars as well Just putting the thread up as a discussion point really. But I still fancy a large cab that is bonkersly light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name='Wil' post='1111311' date='Feb 1 2011, 05:28 PM']Interesting! It'll have to be seriously good to compete with my 410L mind, this thing is the absolute balls.[/quote] I'm putting it up against the GS412, it probably won't win, but I want more high mids going on. It is more of a convenience cab plan/satisfying curiosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 [quote name='owen' post='1111389' date='Feb 1 2011, 06:18 PM']That's cool, but sometimes I like to rock out with my bass guitars as well [/quote] Oh it'll definitely rock out too. That's all the first customer example does! I'll be interested to see how light this cab ends up - I've always been a fan of composites, did my degree thesis on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I have 2 1x15 Flite cabs loaded with Eminence drivers. Not sure what they're made of, but they're ludicrously light (c.10k) and they sound great despite no bracing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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