Roland Rock Posted February 2, 2011 Posted February 2, 2011 I've never been a fan of the 'mwah' of the fretless, but like some other aspects: For spaced out sliding harmonics, something a bit different, I like this clip from a fellow BCer; [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMFQGYcnL-I&feature=player_embedded"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMFQGYcnL-I...player_embedded[/url] I also like the percussive funkiness that the decreased sustain of a fretless can help provide: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F4j2SacgN4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F4j2SacgN4[/url] Gary Willis is the daddy btw - I saw Alain Caron playing with Mike Stern a few years back, and thoroughly enjoyed his playing Quote
Conan Posted February 2, 2011 Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='ikay' post='1112173' date='Feb 2 2011, 11:45 AM']That's lovely, John Giblin on bass I think[/quote] Indeed. Quote
ElCapitan Posted February 2, 2011 Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='ikay' post='1111351' date='Feb 1 2011, 05:54 PM']here's one for starters - Alain Caron 'Ink Illusion', F Bass AC6, watch for the octave pedal to kick in at 1min 15, awesome ... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITQd2NtbOKA&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITQd2NtbOKA...feature=related[/url][/quote] I swear he's doing that just to upset me. Quote
ikay Posted February 2, 2011 Author Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='Roland Rock' post='1112401' date='Feb 2 2011, 01:49 PM']I also like the percussive funkiness that the decreased sustain of a fretless can help provide: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F4j2SacgN4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F4j2SacgN4[/url] Gary Willis is the daddy[/quote] He certainly is - GW has the funk! Quote
Chris2112 Posted February 2, 2011 Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='ikay' post='1111463' date='Feb 1 2011, 07:04 PM']Pino's playing and tone is just beautiful I'm not so sure about Percy ...[/quote] Yeah, Percy has never had a great sound IMO, he spends too much time plucking near the neck with no bite or definition, just that awful farty sound. If he's just play nearer the bridge with a bridge pickup maybe he'd sound better. Quote
TheGreek Posted February 2, 2011 Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='Roland Rock' post='1112401' date='Feb 2 2011, 01:49 PM']I've never been a fan of the 'mwah' of the fretless, but like some other aspects: I also like the percussive funkiness that the decreased sustain of a fretless can help provide: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F4j2SacgN4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F4j2SacgN4[/url] Gary Willis is the daddy[/quote] I love this sound - any idea what effects, if any, are being used??? Quote
morsefull Posted February 2, 2011 Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='Steve Amadeo' post='1112033' date='Feb 2 2011, 09:23 AM']We've all got to aspire to something. For me it's passion, soul, and precision as demonstrated in this video. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_u35sHICjE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_u35sHICjE[/url][/quote] I'm sorry, but as much as i tried not to , i ended up in tears at the end of this Quote
Platypus Posted February 2, 2011 Posted February 2, 2011 I really like this version of Diamonds on the Soles of her Shoes - the unreleased version [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMJbJJldSNw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMJbJJldSNw[/url] Or listen to it on Spotify for better sound quality Quote
stef030 Posted February 2, 2011 Posted February 2, 2011 not very good at this links thing but for me it has to be pino palladino on oleta adams get here if you can, and again on 1930,s rust by gary numan,pino gone from one extreme to the other Quote
Bilbo Posted February 2, 2011 Posted February 2, 2011 Percy Jones is so strong a personality on the instrument. He is recognisable in seconds, unlike most of the shred merchants. A true original. Quote
Linus27 Posted February 2, 2011 Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) [quote name='stef030' post='1113078' date='Feb 2 2011, 09:55 PM']not very good at this links thing but for me it has to be pino palladino on oleta adams get here if you can, [/quote] Here you go. I agree also, truely fantastic. Edited February 2, 2011 by Linus27 Quote
TheGreek Posted February 2, 2011 Posted February 2, 2011 [quote name='stef030' post='1113078' date='Feb 2 2011, 09:55 PM']not very good at this links thing but for me it has to be pino palladino on oleta adams get here if you can, and again on 1930,s rust by gary numan,pino gone from one extreme to the other[/quote] I didn't know this - quite a change of style for Mr Numan.. Quote
stef030 Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 [quote name='TheGreek' post='1113146' date='Feb 2 2011, 10:34 PM'] I didn't know this - quite a change of style for Mr Numan.. [/quote] thanks for that guys Quote
DaveB Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) In all the times I heard this on a low quality sounding radio I never really heard the bass properly till I ran it through my Hi-Fi, Bass is quite low in the mix (i'm assuming it is a proper bass being the 80's it could be anything though ) I do get confused though with all the sound effects on it, sounds like an upright at the end so I could be wrong. Great song anyway Any how, Peter Gabriel & Kate Bush Don't Give Up [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJWurqWTeSk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJWurqWTeSk[/url] Edited February 3, 2011 by DaveB Quote
purpleblob Posted February 3, 2011 Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) Oh I forgot - Steve Bailey on the bass extremes album sounds good. I'm not 100% it's his tone specifically or more his playing style on his 6 string fretless that I like. Edited February 3, 2011 by purpleblob Quote
DaveB Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 Stuck this album on this morning and just love the tone here. Greg Howe, Victor Wooten and Dennis Cambers = awesome mix [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKXewENvIfE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKXewENvIfE[/url] Quote
Spoombung Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 What I confounding about Gary Willis is the sheer ease he has producing those complex lines. It's just astonishing technically. I'm a big fan of this type of drumming too (very rare to find a drummer like this anywhere). Quote
Conan Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 [quote name='Spoombung' post='1115342' date='Feb 4 2011, 02:30 PM']...Gary Willis.... It's just astonishing technically.[/quote] Agreed. But I also think that it's buttock-clenchingly dull. Technique for the sake of technique. Fair enough if it's played at a trade show (which it seems to be) but otherwise, what exactly is the target market for this type of shredding? Quote
Spoombung Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 [quote name='Conan' post='1115353' date='Feb 4 2011, 02:35 PM']But I also think that it's buttock-clenchingly dull.[/quote] ...maybe in places. I'm still jealous of that technique, though. My fingers just don't work like his! I tried following his instructions from the Youtube tutorials a while ago. After about 10 minutes I realised I just didn't stand a chance. Quote
Conan Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 A bit cheesy I know, but I like this one too... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IzsaSWO8ng&feature=BF&list=MLGxdCwVVULXc4LLOwvYNzTYKMH0vWOeg3&index=6"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IzsaSWO8ng...eg3&index=6[/url] Quote
xilddx Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 [quote name='Spoombung' post='1115379' date='Feb 4 2011, 02:49 PM']...maybe in places. I'm still jealous of that technique, though. My fingers just don't work like his! I tried following his instructions from the Youtube tutorials a while ago. After about 10 minutes I realised I just didn't stand a chance.[/quote] I like the drumming, the bass is being played in place of a horn, it's for BassDay after all. I also thought it was dull. Very little of interest compositionally, it's simply bass being played like a horn. Bass is a horrible instrument for this type of soloing. I've never liked it, it seemed devoid of any real emotion to me, it wasn't improvised either as far as I can tell. It's miles away from Rubber Shirt in terms of musical interest. Amazing as far as technique goes of course. 10 minutes? Of course you don't stand a chance in 10 minutes! How long do you think it takes to get chops like that together, never mind the conceptual learning necessary. What aim did you have in mind when trying to learn it? Quote
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