VxR Rusty Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 Hey all I rememberd my previous user name now, Russty_dub lol, but anyway. The band im in now is going down that Industrial/dance adventure, and im wondering how id go about getting a really good deep deep punchy sound. The sound id love to get is that of Hadoukens Chris Purcell, especially of their most recent songs, especially Oxygen The gear i use is: Ernieball Sub bass (with ernieball strings) Peavy/markbass 150watt head (its quite old lol) laney 2x15 cab Ive got a deep sound atm, but i dont think its deep enough, Ive heard Compression pedals help, and im trying to get hold of and Ashdown Dual band on the cheap Any help will be appreciated, i cant afford to change gear as im only an apprentice Cheers Rusty Quote
chrismuzz Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 I've not heard any good reviews of the Ashdown Dual Band, and there are some nasty noise issues. A similar compressor that seems to get raved about is the Trace Elliot SMX, but there are loads more out there. I would point you towards the cheap Behringer I've got for sale as it's fantastic for the price, but I figured the slight loss of low end would be counter productive if you want a deep sound I'd visit this website [url="http://www.ovnilab.com/"]http://www.ovnilab.com/[/url] as there are in depth reviews of pretty much every compressor out there. It's what pointed me towards my Aguilar TLC which I swear by! You might also want to try an octave pedal if you want REALLY deep Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 I had the Ashdown EVO rig with the switchable sub harmonics for me it was a bit well, Gash but you might like it I presume they put it on there for someone? Quote
VxR Rusty Posted February 21, 2011 Author Posted February 21, 2011 How much are those Trace Elliot SMX roughly? Quote
VxR Rusty Posted February 21, 2011 Author Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1136456' date='Feb 21 2011, 10:44 PM']I had the Ashdown EVO rig with the switchable sub harmonics for me it was a bit well, Gash but you might like it I presume they put it on there for someone?[/quote] That made me laugh! hehe Quote
chrismuzz Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 Sadly discontinued, but they turn up for sale on here every so often, and on eBay. I've seen them go anywhere from £40 to over £100 Quote
chrismuzz Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1136456' date='Feb 21 2011, 10:44 PM']I had the Ashdown EVO rig with the switchable sub harmonics for me it was a bit well, Gash but you might like it I presume they put it on there for someone?[/quote] I used to rehearse with a band using a Behringer amp with a 'Deep' switch not unlike this. It should have been called a 'mud' switch Quote
VxR Rusty Posted February 21, 2011 Author Posted February 21, 2011 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GQbMnZu_jc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GQbMnZu_jc[/url] this is what im aiming for Quote
chrismuzz Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 That sounds really synth-ey to me actually. I don't know much about that area but i know Boss make one, someone else might pop in and give better insight:) Quote
VxR Rusty Posted February 21, 2011 Author Posted February 21, 2011 thanks for your help man Bassists always were the best for helping out i can get a pretty deep sound out of it, but it all goes to pot if i change to the A/D/G strings. What comp pedal do you have and how much you looking for roughly? Quote
VxR Rusty Posted February 21, 2011 Author Posted February 21, 2011 could the gauge of my strings affect it? To think, ive been playing for nearly 8 years, and im still a bit of a n00b Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 We are all still learning mate. Have you ever considered going to a 5er? Quote
VxR Rusty Posted February 21, 2011 Author Posted February 21, 2011 i used to have one, was a Bass Collection 5 string. im tuned down to dropped D I sold my BC for my ernie ball, and i love it Quote
chrismuzz Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 You've been playing about the same amount of time as me! There's still a lot I don't know, but I've learnt a lot in my time on these forums. And it's my pleasure to share any information I've picked up. I had issues with my basses where different strings produced a vastly different sound, it could be due to the gauges but there are varying opinions on that. Now I have custom gauge strings now so every string has the same amount of tension, and to my ears at least, the output is a lot more balanced. Also, compression helps a lot, but I don't have to compress the sound quite as heavily now The one I'm selling is a Behringer DC9, it does a fantasticd job even though the 'Sensitivity' knob works the opposite way round I'm selling it because I tune down to A, and the loss of low end was too much for me. It's alright for standard tunings though apparently. I'm looking for £15 which includes postage if you do want to give it a bash though Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 Oh an Ernie Ball I haven't come across those..... I too had a BC but mine was a 4, Nice bass. Quote
VxR Rusty Posted February 21, 2011 Author Posted February 21, 2011 haha, ive notice you have a few is their anything else that may help? Oh, i ahve a mashal Jackhammer Distortion/Od pedal, forgot to mention that Quote
chrismuzz Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 After listening to that song, I'd recommend looking into trying out some bass synth pedals and see if you can find something you like Quote
stingrayPete1977 Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 Out of my depth on synth type sounds I'm afraid, See what I mean about always something else to learn Quote
VxR Rusty Posted February 22, 2011 Author Posted February 22, 2011 haha well ill fill you all in when i work it out hehe Quote
ThomBassmonkey Posted February 22, 2011 Posted February 22, 2011 For the OP, there's definitely synth FX going on. Look into things like the Roland V-Bass if you want to sound exactly like that. It's quite possibly not even a bass guitar though. [quote name='chrismuzz' post='1136538' date='Feb 21 2011, 11:28 PM']Now I have custom gauge strings now so every string has the same amount of tension[/quote] Quick note on this: String guage is a bit misleading when it comes to string tension. The biggest factor in tension is the guage of the core, when you look at string guages you're actually looking at the guage including the winding. More even string guages will mean the cores are more likely to be even, but there's still a chance that the tension can vary a lot with whatever guages you use. IIRC at least. Quote
chrismuzz Posted February 22, 2011 Posted February 22, 2011 That's some really handy information Thom! Someone's gonna really benefit from that. If only I had been a member of this site last year, I could have avoided the weeks of endless research! Thankfully I gained access to a tension chart in the end though, and now I've got something that works perfectly for what i want to do Quote
VxR Rusty Posted February 22, 2011 Author Posted February 22, 2011 Thanks again guys Ive got myself a very tasty compression pedal now, Went and bought a Electro-Harmonix Black Finger Compressor from [b]EssentialTension[/b] Quote
chrismuzz Posted February 22, 2011 Posted February 22, 2011 Somehow I had a strange feeling you'd go for that EHX make fantastic effects, hope it works out for you! Quote
charic Posted February 22, 2011 Posted February 22, 2011 Before radically changing your sound I'd suggest finding somewhere you can crank your rig up and stand on the other side (& outside) of the room. See if you think it's deep enough then. Quote
xgsjx Posted February 22, 2011 Posted February 22, 2011 I don't think a compressor is what's gonna give you a deeper sound (I could be wrong tho). An octaver or a tone filter type pedal is more likely to do what you're after IMO. Quote
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