Locking in with the Kick Drum ..... What's that all about then

[jakenewmanbass]

"What's that all about then"...



THIS!!!!





[url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gaoYu6jOoug"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gaoYu6jOoug[/url]

Edited February 2, 2008 by jakesbass

[chris_b]

In these 2 links the bass and drum aren't locked together, they're superglued!!. Of course, it's New Orleans funk.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKsjJnJue7I"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKsjJnJue7I[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSKIHXM8rxQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSKIHXM8rxQ[/url]

[jakenewmanbass]

[quote name='chris_b' post='132537' date='Feb 2 2008, 12:59 PM']In these 2 links the bass and drum aren't locked together, they're superglued!!. Of course, it's New Orleans funk.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKsjJnJue7I"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKsjJnJue7I[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSKIHXM8rxQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSKIHXM8rxQ[/url][/quote]

great grooves

[lonestar]

[quote name='jakesbass' post='132442' date='Feb 2 2008, 10:24 AM']"What's that all about then"...



THIS!!!!





[url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gaoYu6jOoug"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gaoYu6jOoug[/url][/quote]


ABSOLUTELY! and ditto the Jon cleary band below.

[andy67]

always a groove to me, its like a unspoken word or a pulse that allows you to communicate with onother on a level of complete harmony and synchronisation - being as one.

good instances of this would be; early Marillion, Pete (John! :brow: ) Trewavas and Ian Mosely these guys really locked in and produced a 'percussive' beat which really set the sound for Marillion. Others would be Geddy Lee and Neil Peart - too many to mention or perhaps thats a good start for a new topic...the groove machine bassists and drummers who make the music!?

Edited February 6, 2008 by andy67

[wateroftyne]

Poor, poor Pete (John?) Trewavas.. trying to groove in a rhythm section alongside Ian Mosely, the straightest, clunky-est drummer in rock. IMO, of course!

[andy67]

Pete it is!

head in another place!

[alexclaber]

Learn how to lock with the kick and then forget about it and just listen and feel the groove. Tempo is the responsibility of the whole band, not just the drummer.

Although those New Orleans funk grooves are great grooves, they are not a great example of bass locking in with the kick, due to the very busy kick patterns and varied position relative to the beat. The Meters are particularly crazy when it comes to this kind of thing.

If you learn how to play the drums, or at least program a drum machine / sequencer, then the bass/drum lockup becomes far deeper, managing to remain tight without ever getting stiff. I can't remember the last time I consciously thought about what my drummer was doing with the kick - though I frequency hassle him to sit in a different position versus the beat.

Alex